HF Habs: Trade Proposal Thread #80

[Habs Icing]

Used to have a similar discussion during beer bashes at university - along the lines of “how much money would it take to be Bill Gates’ personal bitch for a year”

Bitch as in a gofer or bitch as in Bubba's plaything while he's in prison.

 

[Eegs]

you would have thought correctly! My bad. I mixed up the players I was looking at.

He is a fantastic skater though, you had that part right

 

[Adam Michaels]

Yes that's true for the work on the PP in the AHL for Barron. It will depend of his camp but I think Barron will start the season in the NHL.

For the PP spot, I think Matheson could take Wideman place

I forgot about Matheson. You're right I think he'll end up being the 1st PP QB and Wideman the 2nd wave. And hopefully one of the kids will step up.

But the beauty in all this, they don't need to rush them into those roles yet.

I think Barron and Norlinder are probably the best prospects to be a PP QB.

If Barron is who you envision as your PP QB, then he's better off in Laval where he'll get those reps.

As for which of the prospects start in the NHL, if I had to pick one, I think Guhle will be the one.

 

[RationalExpectations]

Slafkovsky and Caufield at only a few million gives you cup chances right away.

Signed for long time or soon to be are:

Caufield - Suzuki - Anderson
Slafkovsky - Dach - Gallagher


The players below play for new contracts and may be motivated to produce (and may be showcased, maybe even on a first line, you guys cashing in a high pick or two at the TDL):

Drouin - Monahan - Dadonov - Hoffman (UFA after next season)


While the following bunch should be reduced to a fourth line that gives good bang for the bucks:

Byron - Pitlick - Evans - Armia - Ylönen


Leaves Dvorak and prospects which point to very good depth. The aquisition of a (dream) defender and a decent goalie (if needed) could be done from a position of strength.

This is non sense. Dach has not proven anything, Anderson is useless when not doing his power rushes, Slaf has yet to play one game in the NHL and has been producing at a 0.3 rate in Liiga. Gallagher has had two bad seasons let s see if he can come back healthy and be back to 30 goals. Suzuki has never scored more than 60 points. Caufield can be a great goal scorer but let us see how he fares in other aspects of the game.

This is one of the worst top 6 in the league right now.
For the thrid line, Monahan Drouin Hoffman are quite useless defensively so I hope you always have the puck.

finally as far as defense is concerned you could add Makar or Hedman to that core there is still no 2D, no 3D. Matheson is potentially a 4D with offensive focus, Edmunson with defensive focus so that could be a weak second pair for a contender but not more.

Where do you see contention right away ?

This team is built to be fun and play bottom 5, let us face it. They need a true top 1C at the next draft. I like Suzuki but I don‘t see him as good as O Reilly Bergeron Backstrom Stamkos Crosby Kopitar Toews when their teams won the stanley cup.

 

[Adam Michaels]

When Hughes mentioned waivers as a possible place to acquire someone, I'm curious if the Habs have their eyes on someone like Kravtsov. If he doesn't make the Rangers out of camp, he will need to pass through waivers. And until November 1st, Montreal has priority on the waiver wire (unless they are still last place after November 1st).

He'll most likely make the Rangers out of camp. But they might have him in their minds if he does go through waivers.

Obviously, Habs will need to make more moves to fit him in their forward group.

 

[Peteux]

When Hughes mentioned waivers as a possible place to acquire someone, I'm curious if the Habs have their eyes on someone like Kravtsov. If he doesn't make the Rangers out of camp, he will need to pass through waivers. And until November 1st, Montreal has priority on the waiver wire (unless they are still last place after November 1st).

He'll most likely make the Rangers out of camp. But they might have him in their minds if he does go through waivers.

Obviously, Habs will need to make more moves to fit him in their forward group.

Really doubt he doesn't make the Rangers out of camp. They'd be giving up on an asset that is worth something. Even if he's underwhelming during camp, they might keep him up to try to up his value.

 

[Sterling Archer]

When Hughes mentioned waivers as a possible place to acquire someone, I'm curious if the Habs have their eyes on someone like Kravtsov. If he doesn't make the Rangers out of camp, he will need to pass through waivers. And until November 1st, Montreal has priority on the waiver wire (unless they are still last place after November 1st).

He'll most likely make the Rangers out of camp. But they might have him in their minds if he does go through waivers.

Obviously, Habs will need to make more moves to fit him in their forward group.

I don't see HuGo not using the waiver before the start of the season. It's a 1st pick waiver where year after year, you see surprise players hit waivers that were not expected to. Kravtsov would be epic but I can't see it happening unless it was a trade, which I'd be fine with.

 

[Pompeius Magnus]

Bitch as in a gofer or bitch as in Bubba's plaything while he's in prison.

Heck, I can do both depending on what kind of money we're talking about

 

[MonkeyBusiness]

you would have thought correctly! My bad. I mixed up the players I was looking at.

So who were you talking about? You describe Foudy's play yet didn't know he was a forward?

 

[Adam Michaels]

Really doubt he doesn't make the Rangers out of camp. They'd be giving up on an asset that is worth something. Even if he's underwhelming during camp, they might keep him up to try to up his value.

Same here. I'd be surprised if he doesn't crack the Rangers' line-up. Just wondering if they're looking at him among other players they would claim if they hit the waiver wire after teams make their cuts.

They might look to add a defenseman. But I think that if Kravtsov becomes available on waivers, they'd put in the claim.

 

[The Gr8 Dane]

Slafkovsky and Caufield at only a few million gives you cup chances right away.

Signed for long time or soon to be are:

Caufield - Suzuki - Anderson
Slafkovsky - Dach - Gallagher


The players below play for new contracts and may be motivated to produce (and may be showcased, maybe even on a first line, you guys cashing in a high pick or two at the TDL):

Drouin - Monahan - Dadonov - Hoffman (UFA after next season)


While the following bunch should be reduced to a fourth line that gives good bang for the bucks:

Byron - Pitlick - Evans - Armia - Ylönen


Leaves Dvorak and prospects which point to very good depth. The aquisition of a (dream) defender and a decent goalie (if needed) could be done from a position of strength.

Franchement. The team stinks we are rebuilding , what is this blasphemy you wrote

*Slafkovsky and Caufield at only a few million gives you cup chances right away.*

 

[Kudo Shinichi]

When Hughes mentioned waivers as a possible place to acquire someone, I'm curious if the Habs have their eyes on someone like Kravtsov. If he doesn't make the Rangers out of camp, he will need to pass through waivers. And until November 1st, Montreal has priority on the waiver wire (unless they are still last place after November 1st).

He'll most likely make the Rangers out of camp. But they might have him in their minds if he does go through waivers.

Obviously, Habs will need to make more moves to fit him in their forward group.

No chance Kravstov gets put on waivers.
31 teams would put a claim

 

[Vachon23]

Speculation: - Best players projected to be waived by opening night

Which are the most notable players likely to be waived by your team before the season starts?

forums.hfboards.com

Here is a list of players that could be on the waivers

If we where looking for forwards, the list would be interesting but for Dmen it's less interesting

 

[Team_Spirit]

Oh Lord even the worst poster on HFHabs (probably me) has better trade offers.

 

[Nico Cauzuki]

Question

i know we have first claim on waivers but lets say theres 3 of them we like can we claim all of them or is there a rule against it

 

[Vachon23]

Question

i know we have first claim on waivers but lets say theres 3 of them we like can we claim all of them or is there a rule against it

I mean, you need to be able to keep all of them on your 23 rosters

 

[Nico Cauzuki]

I mean, you need to be able to keep all of them on your 23 rosters

i know that and specially with the amount of forwards we have i know it wont happen but i was just curious if we could

 

[Runner77]

When Hughes mentioned waivers as a possible place to acquire someone, …

My first thoughts were, how does he make room and how many moves will he need.

 

[Skip Bayless]

Oh Lord even the worst poster on HFHabs (probably me) has better trade offers.

Possibly one of the worst takes I've heard

 

[The Gr8 Dane]

Oh Lord even the worst poster on HFHabs (probably me) has better trade offers.

This guy gets paid?

 

[Vachon23]

i know that and specially with the amount of forwards we have i know it wont happen but i was just curious if we could

Don't know any rules saying we can't

 

[Peteux]

Oh Lord even the worst poster on HFHabs (probably me) has better trade offers.

Flynn make any show unwatchable.

 

[Scriptor]

This is non sense. Dach has not proven anything, Anderson is useless when not doing his power rushes, Slaf has yet to play one game in the NHL and has been producing at a 0.3 rate in Liiga. Gallagher has had two bad seasons let s see if he can come back healthy and be back to 30 goals. Suzuki has never scored more than 60 points. Caufield can be a great goal scorer but let us see how he fares in other aspects of the game.

This is one of the worst top 6 in the league right now.
For the thrid line, Monahan Drouin Hoffman are quite useless defensively so I hope you always have the puck.

finally as far as defense is concerned you could add Makar or Hedman to that core there is still no 2D, no 3D. Matheson is potentially a 4D with offensive focus, Edmunson with defensive focus so that could be a weak second pair for a contender but not more.

Where do you see contention right away ?

This team is built to be fun and play bottom 5, let us face it. They need a true top 1C at the next draft. I like Suzuki but I don‘t see him as good as O Reilly Bergeron Backstrom Stamkos Crosby Kopitar Toews when their teams won the stanley cup.

I believe Guhle could complement a Makar quite well, personally. Edmundson onnhis off side tom play with Matheson on a 2nd pairing? Possibly, but not the best, for sure, although Edmundson can play a good game on his off side.

 

[Sterling Archer]

No chance Kravstov gets put on waivers.
31 teams would put a claim

But we'd be at the front of the line

Also, agree he'd never go on waivers.

 

[Miller Time]

This is non sense. Dach has not proven anything, Anderson is useless when not doing his power rushes, Slaf has yet to play one game in the NHL and has been producing at a 0.3 rate in Liiga. Gallagher has had two bad seasons let s see if he can come back healthy and be back to 30 goals. Suzuki has never scored more than 60 points. Caufield can be a great goal scorer but let us see how he fares in other aspects of the game.

This is one of the worst top 6 in the league right now.
For the thrid line, Monahan Drouin Hoffman are quite useless defensively so I hope you always have the puck.

finally as far as defense is concerned you could add Makar or Hedman to that core there is still no 2D, no 3D. Matheson is potentially a 4D with offensive focus, Edmunson with defensive focus so that could be a weak second pair for a contender but not more.

Where do you see contention right away ?

This team is built to be fun and play bottom 5, let us face it. They need a true top 1C at the next draft. I like Suzuki but I don‘t see him as good as O Reilly Bergeron Backstrom Stamkos Crosby Kopitar Toews when their teams won the stanley cup.

ROR is actually a great Suzuki comparison, no reason to doubt Nick will continue to progress and deliver comparable impact to ROR as he hits his prime.

The question is will we have the elite talent around him in the lineup... Like a Pietrangelo & Tarasenko, to make the most of his prime years.

Minute eating top tier caliber #1D, and top tier caliber #1 G are the two biggest areas of need HuGo have to address over the next 2-3 years. That's what we don't have in the pipeline (unless Primeau & one of Guhle/Barron/Mailloux make a Shea Weber-esque massive jump in their early 20's).

More likely, is that we'll need to fill those 2 big holes via schrewd trade or ufa signing.