HF Habs: Trade Proposal Thread #80

[BaseballCoach]

Who cares if he doesn't clear waivers!? Seriously. Is this really a concern?

For me not really, but if he outperforms some vets in camp, I'd waive them first.

Would Florida’s first get this done?

Probably would, but no way I make that deal in Hughes' shoes.

 

[Boss Man Hughes]

Probably because that would be a large overpay and it's kind of ridiculous.

It was probably reasonable before the Rangers signed Trochek. A risk but probably a worthwhile one. Now they don't need centres.

He’s a big stay at home D, who may top out as a #4 one day … he’s no Miller or Fox who legitimately are “studs”

Miller is NOT a stud. At least not offensively and a doubt he ever will be.

 

[FerrisRox]

It was probably reasonable before the Rangers signed Trochek. A risk but probably a worthwhile one. Now they don't need centres.

Giving up an asset like Christian Dvorak for Nils Lundkvist is not remotely reasonable. It's a large overpay and would suggest that Kent Hughes doesn't know what he's doing.

There's no chance the Canadiens would entertain a trade like that.

 

[Sterling Archer]

Giving up an asset like Christian Dvorak for Nils Lundkvist is not remotely reasonable. It's a large overpay and would suggest that Kent Hughes doesn't know what he's doing.

There's no chance the Canadiens would entertain a trade like that.

Dvorak was acquired for a late 1st and Lundkvist is a late 1st. So Rags may have to add a little but value for value, it’s pretty close.

 

[Weltschmerz]

Dvorak was acquired for a late 1st and Lundkvist is a late 1st. So Rags may have to add a little but value for value, it’s pretty close.

Rangers have no cap for Dvorak anyway.

 

[Sterling Archer]

Unless they want to ex

Rangers have no cap for Dvorak anyway.

Unless they want to expand it and add Kravtsov…

Apparently they’re asking for a prospect of equal caliber. May take Mailloux.

 

[Weltschmerz]

Unless they want to ex

Unless they want to expand it and add Kravtsov…

Apparently they’re asking for a prospect of equal caliber. May take Mailloux.

Habs should offer them a forward prospect if HuGo are interested in Lundkvist, not sure which one but I trust Hughes and Gorton to figure that out.

 

[Spring in Fialta]

Dvorak was acquired for a late 1st and Lundkvist is a late 1st. So Rags may have to add a little but value for value, it’s pretty close.

No it's not. That's not how value works at all. Lundkvist is Lundkvist, he's not a late 1st anymore. Giving up Dvorak for him would be an incredibly stupid move.

 

[Sterling Archer]

No it's not. That's not how value works at all. Lundkvist is Lundkvist, he's not a late 1st anymore. Giving up Dvorak for him would be an incredibly stupid move.

Guess that depends how you view Lundkvist.

 

[xX SEYF Xx]

Kent Hughes seems to be that vicious GM taking advantage of others problems lol
I picture him showing up with his agent smile and rubbing his hands to every stuck GM out there, need some help?
Only way I see Lundkvist coming over is if it is a complete steal

 

[sampollock]

Kent Hughes seems to be that vicious GM taking advantage of others problems lol
I picture him showing up with his agent smile and rubbing his hands to every stuck GM out there, need some help?
Only way I see Lundkvist coming over is if it is a complete steal

Like Mr Burns from the Simpson's

 

[FerrisRox]

Dvorak was acquired for a late 1st and Lundkvist is a late 1st. So Rags may have to add a little but value for value, it’s pretty close.

Is that how you think trades work?

 

[Catanddogguitarrr]

Rangers have no cap for Dvorak anyway.

Dvorak have to prove he can play good hockey first. Rangers are not a stupid team.

 

[Habs Icing]

For me not really, but if he outperforms some vets in camp, I'd waive them first.


Probably would, but no way I make that deal in Hughes' shoes.

How about barefoot or just in socks?

Dvorak was acquired for a late 1st and Lundkvist is a late 1st. So Rags may have to add a little but value for value, it’s pretty close.

Wasn't it a late first and a second?

 

[Whalers Fan]

Dvorak have to prove he can play good hockey first. Rangers are not a stupid team.

Neither are the Habs... anymore.

 

[Catanddogguitarrr]

Neither are the Habs... anymore.

Yes, they aren't anymore but the previous gm signed Dvorak big money and years. Dvo was supposed to be cheaper and more productive than the center he let walk.

 

[Sterling Archer]

Is that how you think trades work?

I think trades are not made as cut and dry as you’re making it out to be and are far more nuanced than you’re making it seem.

 

[Sterling Archer]

Wasn't it a late first and a second?

That’s why Rangers would have to add.

Realistically though, the rumour is they want an equivalent prospect in return so I doubt a roster player is the asking. Likely be a Mysak or Kidney type player in return.

 

[Scriptor]

Lundkvist will never play with the NYR they have Fox, Trouba and Schneider in front of him. He might be better than all our RD propect except Baron but he isn’t a proven to be a sure fire top 4D… I wouldn’t give a first for him right now. the NYR are like looking for immediate help now that they have sign Trocheck they are probably looking vet LD or mid 6 winger to add more offense. We have Edmundson but Dadonov, Drouin and Hoffman are likeliest target.

Impossible. rangers looking for young forward that can grow with the team because it means cheap and under team control for a long time when they have zero cap space to spare, or close to it (1M).

Mysak may be close enough to the NHL to fit the bill. Kidney is further away from making the ùNHL, if he ever does.

Evans is another possibility, but Montreal would have to hold back salary on his 1.7M contract to make it work, or accept a bad contract coming back along with Lundqvist in the deal.

 

[SlafySZN]

Yes, they aren't anymore but the previous gm signed Dvorak big money and years. Dvo was supposed to be cheaper and more productive than the center he let walk.

Bergevin is not the one who signed Dvorak. He is on a 6 years contract that started in 2019-2020, i don’t think it’s big money either, only 4,4m.

 

[Steve Shutt]

Can Lundqvist play in the AHL without needing to pass through waivers?

 

[Belial]

Can Lundqvist play in the AHL without needing to pass through waivers?

Yeah, apparently he's still waiver-exempt for one more season.

So I don't see why would the Rangers get rid of him for scraps if they can just marinate him one more year in the AHL and raise his trade value.

He asked for a trade but who cares really... If I'm the Rangers and I'm not getting solid offers I just keep him for another year and that's it.

 

[RationalExpectations]

Habs should offer them a forward prospect if HuGo are interested in Lundkvist, not sure which one but I trust Hughes and Gorton to figure that out.

Heineman … obviously the saga continues, he will have been traded to all teams before playing a single game in the NhL

 

[Kudo Shinichi]

Yeah, apparently he's still waiver-exempt for one more season.

So I don't see why would the Rangers get rid of him for scraps if they can just marinate him one more year in the AHL and raise his trade value.

He asked for a trade but who cares really... If I'm the Rangers and I'm not getting solid offers I just keep him for another year and that's it.

Because he's not going to show up

 

[Belial]

Because he's not going to show up

He said he's not going to the AHL?