I'm speaking in terms of their abstract trade value.
If Drouin could actually play a full season he is a 20 goal 50+ point winger. Let's see what he does to start the season playing with Suzuki and Caufield or Dach and Gally. I am down for trading him at the TDL, but Drouin to me is still a tiny bit intriguing. I suspect this season could finally be a returned on our investment in him.
I like Tkachuk.....but Slaf + Dach + Florida 1st is a little rich for my liking.I'm speaking in terms of their abstract trade value.
In my subsequent post I affirmed I'm well aware of the cap issues it would come with. I'd still find a way to make the deal work if I was GM and presented with the opportunity. Hockey isn't basketball with its extreme bias toward premium ability but it sure isn't too far from it. If you commit half your cap to premium players that's fine - they will carry you quite far.
Ok, but why the trade is unthinkable is all the team control lost for a player with probably a 10M contract and no team control.
If you think Kirby Dach is a high-quality asset, what word would you use to describe Matthew Tkachuk?
Yeah, I don't believe you. Sounds like words from a Habs fan who hasn't had a legitimate star forward in too long.
How is Winnipeg in a position of weakness? Dubois can't go anywhere for two more years. They can wait up until the TDL in 23/24 before trading him and would still get a solid haul for him.
Well there's no way he's coming to Montreal so it's a moot point. I don't want to argue with you - we obviously see things differently. Why this all started is you couldn't believe someone else was offering so many futures for MT and my point is just that some people don't care about cost-controlled assets or anything like that they just want the best player, even though that is not a winning way to think of player assets in a cap environment. Similar to how some people just buy stocks that they like without regard to how cheap or expensive they are.
He’s intriguing all right. It’s intriguing how one guy can have so much talent and so little heart. This is FINALLY his last year here and people are still holding out hope that “this is the year he puts it together if…….” It’s not happening. Ever.
I hope Dru has a great season so we can trade him at the deadline.
A singular post about Stalin is tragic, all these posts about Stalin is just a statistic.
A team isn't going to give as much for PLD if they know they won't sign him. Look at Vanek. Everyone knew he was going to Minny and all he got was two 2nds.
PLD never said that the ONLY place he's willing to sign an extension is Montreal!
I am very interested in how Dach is going to do in Montreal. I do think he is still a high quality asset. His first year showed a lot of promise. He has all the physical tools to make it in the NHL, and still has skill as a big man. His situation in Chicago was not a good one. With the help of MSL and the right support in terms of line mates, he could have a breakout season. That's is what I am willing to gamble on. I respect that you don't feel that way, but we will have to agree to disagree.
Accordingly to several reports out of Winnipeg, that’s exactly what he’s been openly telling people close to him. He wants to play for Habs and you’re seeing it play out now. His agent has to be the face of it but PLD is openly telling people that’s exactly what he wants behind closed doors. He’s just not doing it in public and demanding a trade. There’s no doubt they’re working on it though. PLD, his agent and even Hughes alluded to it during his press conference.
It is, though it’s always relative to the player’s value. It just means not peak value, which in Petry’s case would have been 1st+prospect as a rental.
The value is obviously there but I wouldn’t do it. We are up against the cap, we’d have to shed $9 million more in contracts which would take even more assets. Not the right move to make.
He never mentioned any list. He simply said Montreal is a city Dubois would like to play in and he can't comment further.
Meanwhile their beat writer said PLD openly talks about how he wants to come to Montreal in two years. Not that he simply wants to leave Winnipeg. Plus now the story of him getting a box at the draft in Montreal. There’s a lot more to this than Brisson’s comments.
What's the contract extension? Are we moving Gallagher or Price beforehand?
It's called diplomacy. You don't go out and randomly name one team just like that.
