HF Habs: Trade Proposal Thread #79

[Boss Man Hughes]

Why?

Because it can be a sign and trade then. If they trade for him before then and he then decides he wants 11 mil/yr on a long term contract they are screwed.

 

[Harry Kakalovich]

This whole thing started with some people saying it would be a crime to give up FLO 1st round pick for Dubois.....I just disagree with that fact that it would be out of the question, that's all.

Oh I hope they don't but I definitely think it's a possibility. Impossible to know what will go down.

BTW I just saw Bjorkland traded to Seattle for a 3rd and a 4th. That's what I meant when I was saying the salary matters. He's certainly worth more than a 3rd and a 4th, but the 5.7M contract drove down his price.

 

[xposbrad]

Oh I hope they don't but I definitely think it's a possibility. Impossible to know what will go down.

BTW I just saw Bjorkland traded to Seattle for a 3rd and a 4th. That's what I meant when I was saying the salary matters. He's certainly worth more than a 3rd and a 4th, but the 5.7M contract drove down his price.

Similar numbers to PLD last year too

 

[Harry Kakalovich]

Similar numbers to PLD last year too

PLD also signed his QO. He'll play in Winnipeg this year

 

[Milhouse40]

Oh I hope they don't but I definitely think it's a possibility. Impossible to know what will go down.

BTW I just saw Bjorkland traded to Seattle for a 3rd and a 4th. That's what I meant when I was saying the salary matters. He's certainly worth more than a 3rd and a 4th, but the 5.7M contract drove down his price.

You see this is another example of team getting rid of contract because they need it to fit better player. Same for Pacioretty in Vegas. Dont think it's the case for Winnipeg.

Kevin Fiala cost a 1st and Barber even if the Kings had to give him a 7.8m contract right away.

 

[Harry Kakalovich]

You see this is another example of team getting rid of contract because they need it to fit better player. Same for Pacioretty in Vegas. Dont think it's the case for Winnipeg.

Kevin Fiala cost a 1st and Barber even if the Kings had to give him a 7.8m contract right away.

Right but that was early on before everything tightened up, plus a 2022 1st. I think GMs were surprised by the cost to move contracts.

But yeah Winnipeg will take their time and trade PLD at the deadline, probably to the Rangers I would imagine.

 

[Ezpz]

Oh I hope they don't but I definitely think it's a possibility. Impossible to know what will go down.

BTW I just saw Bjorkland traded to Seattle for a 3rd and a 4th. That's what I meant when I was saying the salary matters. He's certainly worth more than a 3rd and a 4th, but the 5.7M contract drove down his price.

Nah it was because Columbus were like 10 mil over the cap after signing Gaudreau and Laine. They had 0 leverage. I feel they're somehow going to go after JT Miller too. Having Laine and Gaudreau then Roslovic or Boone Jenner as your first line C doesn't work.

 

[SwiftyHab]

So the day Petry got traded I called in the morning he would be traded to the Penguins.

I am going to make another one for fun again lol. Now that the qualifying offer is signed, I predict PLD is a Canadiens before the end of the weekend.

$5 bet

 

[Kwikwi]

He needs to finally show some character.

Like Tkatchuk!
Lack of character

 

[sampollock]

PLD would be good for the habs, I bet Kent like the idea of the signing of 6 mil.
Still think Kent is on this

 

[Kwikwi]

A QO only means he cant sign an extension until jan 1st.
Can still be traded. Anytime.
Also he took a salary drop (from 6.65) to 6. Make him easier to trade.

 

[sampollock]

A QO only means he cant sign an extension until jan 1st.
Can still be traded. Anytime.
Also he took a salary drop (from 6.65) to 6. Make him easier to trade.

Which means a team, maybe Habs are dealing

 

[Natey]

If Bjorkstrand can only get a 3rd and 4th... Dvorak and Anderson value must be similar at best. And the other players people here try to move would all have negative x10 value.

 

[Pompeius Magnus]

I really hope the PLD thing gets done soon, if only so we can finally start talking about something else again

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

If Bjorkstrand can only get a 3rd and 4th... Dvorak and Anderson value must be similar at best. And the other players people here try to move would all have negative x10 value.

It's only that value if you want to dump someone.

If you're not wanting to dump Anderson and Dvorak, like the Habs shouldn't, their value is more than that

 

[Harry Kakalovich]

Nah it was because Columbus were like 10 mil over the cap after signing Gaudreau and Laine. They had 0 leverage. I feel they're somehow going to go after JT Miller too. Having Laine and Gaudreau then Roslovic or Boone Jenner as your first line C doesn't work.

When you say nah are you trying to say what just happened didn't happen? Because it did. Price to acquire Bjorkstrand was a 3rd and a 4th. Leverage doesn't matter - they would have asked around and that was the best deal they could find.

So the day Petry got traded I called in the morning he would be traded to the Penguins.

I am going to make another one for fun again lol. Now that the qualifying offer is signed, I predict PLD is a Canadiens before the end of the weekend.

Well I can't bet money, but I don't think that'll happen.

 

[HomaridII]

A QO only means he cant sign an extension until jan 1st.
Can still be traded. Anytime.
Also he took a salary drop (from 6.65) to 6. Make him easier to trade.

Also for the Habs it means they now know don't have to sign him a huge extension this summer in the midst of a cap issue, they can do that next summer when they will have more cap flexibility due to expiring contracts.

By signing the qualifying offer, avoiding arbitration, and not negotiating an extension now, he is giving the Habs the best shot at getting him now.

That's all it is.

 

[Harry Kakalovich]

It's only that value if you want to dump someone.

If you're not wanting to dump Anderson and Dvorak, like the Habs shouldn't, their value is more than that

It will get better eventually, but it probably means that the Habs will have to wait a while.

 

[HuGo Sham]

Also for the Habs it means they now know don't have to sign him a huge extension this summer in the midst of a cap issue, they can do that next summer when they will have more cap flexibility due to expiring contracts.

By signing the qualifying offer, avoiding arbitration, and not negotiating an extension now, he is giving the Habs the best shot at getting him now.

That's all it is.

alright gaze back into that crystal ball and tell me what the habs are giving up? I'm counting on you

ps - he's supposed to be giving a press conference to winnipeg media monday

 

[sampollock]

Also for the Habs it means they now know don't have to sign him a huge extension this summer in the midst of a cap issue, they can do that next summer when they will have more cap flexibility due to expiring contracts.

By signing the qualifying offer, avoiding arbitration, and not negotiating an extension now, he is giving the Habs the best shot at getting him now.

That's all it is.

By next off season cash opens up to extend him

 

[Harry Kakalovich]

Also for the Habs it means they now know don't have to sign him a huge extension this summer in the midst of a cap issue, they can do that next summer when they will have more cap flexibility due to expiring contracts.

By signing the qualifying offer, avoiding arbitration, and not negotiating an extension now, he is giving the Habs the best shot at getting him now.

That's all it is.

Well chances are he plays in Winnipeg and they trade him at the deadline or in season at some point to a contender.

 

[Boss Man Hughes]

If Bjorkstrand can only get a 3rd and 4th... Dvorak and Anderson value must be similar at best. And the other players people here try to move would all have negative x10 value.

Yes but it also means that Dubois who isn't much better than Bjorkstrand isn't worth much more than a 3rd and 4th. Dvorak and a 2nd should do it.

 

[CHarlie]

Well Calgary going to need some forwards soon.....perfect opportunity for Hugo!!

 

[Adam Michaels]

I don't want to trade Dach in a trade for Dubois. I think he'll pan out in a new environment with MSL. I want Dubois AND Dach AND Suzuki. Let's use another asset or sign for free in 2 years.

Same here. Only center I'm willing to give in this trade is Dvorak.

Because like you, I want to add Dubois to Suzuki and Dach.

 

[SwiftyHab]

Same here. Only center I'm willing to give in this trade is Dvorak.

Because like you, I want to add Dubois to Suzuki and Dach.

What’s you’re view on this signing? You think this helps entice or support the Habs to trade for him?