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datsyukfan

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Frank Vatrano strikes me as a good fit.

Gritty forward scoring at a 35 goal pace and has some pk ability. He’s probably due for some regression but he has always shown a nose for the net. He’d definitely make this team deeper up front.
I guess for me where would you put him? Maybe with Compher and Kane? Move DP down to the 4th. I don’t know how sprong comes out or anyone on the 3rd line so would have to be Fabbri out.
 

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I don’t think Conroy is getting stuck with a guy walking for nothing. Basically his promise to ownership and fans in his introductory presser.

Hanafin is going to cost a first. He is actually quite close with Larkin, I think he would extend.
Who isn’t close with Larkin. I’m telling you guys, Larkin is a free
Agent draw, he’s well liked and respected throughout the league
 
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I can see your reasoning. I don't exactly hate it. If he was on our team then I'd take it and not whine or whatever about it, I just don't think it'll be so cut and dry that he would be 100 point guy with us. Probably would, I just don't see it without mcdavid. Plus, I think he is going to start ring chasing pretty soon. It's crazy that mcdavid and draisatl still haven't won one. Glaringly obvious why, but still crazy.

I do think mcdavid would still get his 120+ point seasons with/without draisatl so we can just agree to disagree there.
Think hed have np getting 100 pts more I think about it might cause us problems though with seider and Raymond's big contracts coming up ,larkins money and debrincat then you got 11 mill in copp(horrible signing from day 1) and compher ... would have to be some cap magic cause draisaitl will get 12-13 at least in free agency

I do think he'll go ring chasing as well and theyll both leave but realistically not many cup contenders will be able to fit in that number

Tampa ? Out ... leafs in cap hell ...avs dont see it ...bruins are 1 and god I'd f***en hate that one , wings he might look at as a team on the rise and see what yzerman did for tampa

Probably wont end up happening at the end of the day
 
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That's all he needed to do was his two-way gameplay. I think we could potentially see a forward traded that we know we can't resign or are good with losing to bring berggren up.

That was a hell of a backcheck/dive for the puck that he did a game or two ago. I think he finally got that message.

(of course, he could just be upping his trade stock even more for us)
Dont think ahl performances will up many players values . I do agree with moving players who wont be part of the future to make room for him and others down the road

Been calling for a long time and some fans didnt like it but fabbri needs to go before he gets hurt again. Didnt like the contract when it happened cause hes always been Injury prone

Eat 1.5 if need be and move him, veleno I dont think will be part of the future but hes a C
 
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Some Hanifin rumblings.


"They’ve been flexible and accommodating, but Flames need an answer from Hanifin," Seravalli wrote. "This is where the rubber meets the road. They put what was believed to be an eight-year, $60 million deal on the table early in the season – nearly exactly what Hanifin asked for – before he got cold feet and didn’t put pen to paper. That part hasn’t been all that comforting for the Flames, who knew last summer that his preference was to play in the U.S. long-term.
"But they’ve been cordial and kept the lines of communication open, still open to bringing him back. The Flames and Hanifin’s camp were scheduled to meet again this week with GM Craig Conroy needing an answer. If it’s a ’no,’ he’s got the premier rental defenseman on the market to move."
 

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So, it's pretty apparent that Red Wings need at least one more top-notch mobile defensemen.

Noah Hanifin has to be the get imo, other options are nice at the TDL, but if you want a truly impactful move. It's looking at you right in the face in Calgary. Seider and Hanifin on the ice at separate times for most of the game will really strengthen what we have. McDavid might have exposed the defenses slow feet.
 

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So, it's pretty apparent that Red Wings need at least one more top-notch mobile defensemen.

Noah Hanifin has to be the get imo, other options are nice at the TDL, but if you want a truly impactful move. It's looking at you right in the face in Calgary. Seider and Hanifin on the ice at separate times for most of the game will really strengthen what we have. McDavid might have exposed the defenses slow feet.
If you replace Maatta with Hanifin we probably still lose that game, but maybe it's 5-4 instead of 8-4.
 
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Well, it's McDavid. How many defense corps won't eventually get exposed by him? I'm not disagreeing that we couldn't use Hanifin or that I wouldn't want him. I'm just saying that McDavid might be an unfair bar to measure by.
 

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Some Hanifin rumblings.


"They’ve been flexible and accommodating, but Flames need an answer from Hanifin," Seravalli wrote. "This is where the rubber meets the road. They put what was believed to be an eight-year, $60 million deal on the table early in the season – nearly exactly what Hanifin asked for – before he got cold feet and didn’t put pen to paper. That part hasn’t been all that comforting for the Flames, who knew last summer that his preference was to play in the U.S. long-term.
"But they’ve been cordial and kept the lines of communication open, still open to bringing him back. The Flames and Hanifin’s camp were scheduled to meet again this week with GM Craig Conroy needing an answer. If it’s a ’no,’ he’s got the premier rental defenseman on the market to move."

so...how high of a price would we be willing to pay? I'm assuming it starts with a 1st, likely with a player added, probably more on top. I've seen others say the Flames would likely want a D back, which likely means Maata because he doesn't have any sort of trade protection.

1st, Maata, Wallander?
 

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so...how high of a price would we be willing to pay? I'm assuming it starts with a 1st, likely with a player added, probably more on top. I've seen others say the Flames would likely want a D back, which likely means Maata because he doesn't have any sort of trade protection.

1st, Maata, Wallander?
This was my original deal I think, or at least close to it. I'd even add buium to sweeten it since they have absolutely no D pipeline (according to some of their fans that have interacted with me).
 
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so...how high of a price would we be willing to pay? I'm assuming it starts with a 1st, likely with a player added, probably more on top. I've seen others say the Flames would likely want a D back, which likely means Maata because he doesn't have any sort of trade protection.

1st, Maata, Wallander?

I think that's ballpark. A 1st round pick, a roster player, and a prospect is the variation you see a lot on these kinds of trades. Calgary should be very happy with that for an expiring contract and the good news is that Detroit is one of the few teams that can pay that price without batting an eye.

For example, the article I linked suggests Boston would love to bring in Hanifin for their Cup push, but they lack the assets that Detroit has currently.

Getting Hanifin really feels like the McDonagh move in Tampa. Add that workhorse top 4 guy to stabilize an already talented young group coming into their own. Makes a lot of sense and it's why many of us have had him circled all season long waiting for this deadline.
 

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so...how high of a price would we be willing to pay? I'm assuming it starts with a 1st, likely with a player added, probably more on top. I've seen others say the Flames would likely want a D back, which likely means Maata because he doesn't have any sort of trade protection.

1st, Maata, Wallander?
I do this even for a rental Hanifin. Not thrilled with it if he doesn’t resign but that’s not much lost value.
 
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I think that's ballpark. A 1st round pick, a roster player, and a prospect is the variation you see a lot on these kinds of trades. Calgary should be very happy with that for an expiring contract and the good news is that Detroit is one of the few teams that can pay that price without batting an eye.

For example, the article I linked suggests Boston would love to bring in Hanifin for their Cup push, but they lack the assets that Detroit has currently.

Getting Hanifin really feels like the McDonagh move in Tampa. Add that workhorse top 4 guy to stabilize an already talented young group coming into their own. Makes a lot of sense and it's why many of us have had him circled all season long waiting for this deadline.

It fits that blueprint perfectly. Even if it doesn't happen with Hanifin it's a move I expect to happen in the near future in some form. Maybe it ends up being Ekblad instead. Maybe it's Pelech or Pulock out of NYI. Maybe it's Larsson. Who knows. But Yzerman has to be looking to bring in that top3 level D and we finally have the depth to move the pieces to make it happen.
 
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I do this even for a rental Hanifin. Not thrilled with it if he doesn’t resign but that’s not much lost value.

My issue if Hanifin is a rental is that we can't swing those pieces for a non-rental. I think Yzerman is looking for a long term piece with this sort of move. If Hanifin won't sign here, and Yzerman knows it, I don't think he pulls the trigger.
 

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Hanifin Would be a great add.
He could be here for a long time too. I would be happy with that acquisition and willing to pay a premium.

Ekblad on the other hand. I’m more on the buyer beware side of things…
 
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I agree with the thrust of the last few posts, which is I think the time is now for Yzerman to start taking advantage of the prospect depth (especially at D) and make moves for players who will help now and the next 4-5 years (basically Larkin's window).

We're close to having to give away D prospects for nothing if moves aren't made.
 

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I agree with the thrust of the last few posts, which is I think the time is now for Yzerman to start taking advantage of the prospect depth (especially at D) and make moves for players who will help now and the next 4-5 years (basically Larkin's window).

We're close to having to give away D prospects for nothing if moves aren't made.
Beauty of losing kids to the waiver wire is you then get the opportunity to trade a 1st to get them back...

Considering that Stevie is the guy to get that 1st... I really hope he's aware of this staring him in the face in the very near future...
 
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