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Holden Caufield

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Happy to see the proposals for a guy we can't afford end.
There is nobody we can’t afford.

He is a young/prime top 10 centre in the world. I would have given Petterson that contract without a second thought.

For context… We currently have 13.6M tied up in our #7 Dman, 13th forward, #6 Dman and 4th line left winger. (Holl, Kostin, Ghost and Fabbri)
 
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stillwater

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For further context ... you just can't eliminate those contracts, unless they run their course, or someone is willing to take them off of your hands.

It's not like the Wings could have traded for Pettersson then just pretended those other 4 contracts don't exist.
 

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There is nobody we can’t afford.

He is a young/prime top 10 centre in the world. I would have given Petterson that contract without a second thought.

For context… We currently have 13.6M tied up in our #7 Dman, 13th forward, #6 Dman and 4th line left winger. (Holl, Kostin, Ghost and Fabbri)
I would rather spend that money somewhere else.
 

Holden Caufield

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For further context ... you just can't eliminate those contracts, unless they run their course, or someone is willing to take them off of your hands.

It's not like the Wings could have traded for Pettersson then just pretended those other 4 contracts don't exist.
Didn’t need too. Petterson would have fit under the cap right now with them all here.
Next year all the mentioned overpaid depth players are easily eliminated, except probably Holl.

Moot now because it was all a pipe dream. But never be too cheap to go big game hunting.
 

Holden Caufield

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He was never coming here. We needed Vancouver to have a season like SJ Sharks this year to even have attempted a trade. As I said in a previous post; why would a team first overall trade their 1C in his prime? Other than Gretzky (owner had money problems) has this ever even happened before?
Rarely. Jumbo Joe would be the obvious one.

Edit; didn’t see the qualifier that the team was 1st overall at the time of trade. No clue where Boston was in standings.
 

lilidk

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Good I didn't want him anyways!
I want him , but not for that price. I actually believe nobody in the team should be paid more than Larkin

I don't know what is wrong with Kuznetsov , but he got waived. Id trade him for Kostin + Holl
 

ricky0034

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I want him , but not for that price. I actually believe nobody in the team should be paid more than Larkin

I don't know what is wrong with Kuznetsov , but he got waived. Id trade him for Kostin + Holl

there's a non zero chance that means moving on from Seider
 

lilidk

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W want him , but not for that price. I actually believe nobody in the team should be paid more than Larkin

I don't know what is wrong with Kuznetsov , but he got waived. Id trade him for Kostin + Holl

there's a non zero chance that means moving on from Seider
Long term is a solution. Give him 10 X 8.5. as long as we don't have a bridge contact
 

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We say this all the time but rarely if ever have I ever seen a veteran defenseman, especially one in their prime, under 20M in their deal with 20pts+ in their career not have value… like ever.

We do this all the time and get so hyperbolic - if/when we move from Holl, there will be interest and offers for him
Holl is a 7D on this team (even without Ed), and a bottom pair D on a non-playoff team. I didn't say he's not an NHLer, I said he has negative trade value because his salary is double what it should be at $3.4M/season for 2 seasons. Show me another 7D that makes that much. The statement isn't hyperbolic at all, you just don't seem to understand that he's overpaid. So is Copp.

Kostin on the other hand, I don't think he'll be in the NHL after this contract.
 
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Gniwder

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I don't know what is wrong with Kuznetsov , but he got waived. Id trade him for Kostin + Holl
He just went through PAP like Vrana did.

There were people here interested in him a while back, I pointed out he tested positive for cocaine and got banned from IIHF for 4 years. In his particular case, we know he's on drugs, it's not speculation.

$7.8M for one more season. Nobody is gonna touch that contract.
 
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Ed Ned and Leddy

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I get the Hanifin buzz. I wonder about Adam Larsson. ‘24 1st, Johansson, and Holl? Obviously would sell less if I could.

Feel like

Walman - Seider

Edvinsson - Larsson

Chiarot - Petry

(Maatta)

Gives up a pretty balanced blue line next year.
 
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Ed Ned and Leddy

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For the love of god get a power forward, someone who can scrap im tired of seeing the team being pushed around

And for f***s sake call up berggren I'm so over seeing joe veleno on the ppl. Kids a 4th liner

Asking for this team to get jammier and asking for Berggren to replace Veleno are really incongruent suggestions in my opinion.
 

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For the love of god get a power forward, someone who can scrap im tired of seeing the team being pushed around

And for f***s sake call up berggren I'm so over seeing joe veleno on the ppl. Kids a 4th liner
Power forward yes… but replacing Joey V for Berger makes the team softer again….

I don’t think Joey V is the one Berger should be replacing unless he can all the sudden play C
 

Frk It

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I get the Hanifin buzz. I wonder about Adam Larsson. ‘24 1st, Johansson, and Holl? Obviously would sell less if I could.

Feel like

Walman - Seider

Edvinsson - Larsson

Chiarot - Petry

(Maatta)

Gives up a pretty balanced blue line next year.
Smells like 2024 version of Kyle Quincey trade. (But I get where you’re coming from)
 
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