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I don’t doubt we’re still listening on offers but does Gallagher actually have any inside info? It sort of seems like he just makes vague or obvious statements to appear in the know.
 

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Fabbro has long time been rumored as possible on the move.

Granlund and duchene make sense to listen on but doubt they could get moved at the moment.

Barrie - im not sure what our plan is here. He doesnt really fit our window unless we are doing a fire from the hip and immediate flip for next season.

McDonagh makes less sense to move now that ekholm is gone.

Lankinen makes sense to move as theres a market for goalies. We will just have to get a lesser goalie from somewhere else.

Listen on sissons if the trade makes sense.

At some point though, we do need to retain some vets
 
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You know, it's not THAT asinine. We have a prime Josi, a prime Saros and a prime Forsberg on our roster - those are the type of players we may never get from all the picks we have. Flipping Nino, who was a free UFA signing anyways, Jeannot who Tampa seriously overpaid and Ekholm who was nearing the end of his prime for multiple future pieces AND a prime Chychrun?

I could see it happening. We have to try to leverage those primes while they are still here,
I don’t know whether it would be Chychrun in particular but I wouldn’t be surprised if we do package some of the picks we’ve gotten for a young more proven player like Chychrun. That’s the approach St Louis took to get O’Reilly and Schenn and it worked out well for them.
 
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Fabbro has long time been rumored as possible on the move.

Granlund and duchene make sense to listen on but doubt they could get moved at the moment.

Barrie - im not sure what our plan is here. He doesnt really fit our window unless we are doing a fire from the hip and immediate flip for next season.

McDonagh makes less sense to move now that ekholm is gone.

Lankinen makes sense to move as theres a market for goalies. We will just have to get a lesser goalie from somewhere else.

Listen on sissons if the trade makes sense.

At some point though, we do need to retain some vets

Here's how I feel about these guys and think you probably have the right guys in mind if there really is truth that we're still shopping.

Keep Fabbro (and Carrier)

Keep Duchene

Move Granlund (likely impossible though)

Barrie - doesn't have to fit a plan. Required move from EDM to facilitate the EK trade (salary) and will also be an asset for us on the ice or as trade bait in the offseason or TDL next season. Either way we just freed up ~$5-6m in cap space after next season with the trade and helped facilitate a sooner transition to youthful D

McD - NTC so stuck, to your last point we need to retain vets so when we know we need someone to groom young defensemen over next few years who better than a seasoned guy who has been to the SCF with multiple teams and won it twice.
 
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Who you guys think they are taking about?
Sissons has a cap hit and pedigree that would make him attractive to a team looking to acquire the quintessential "veteran depth"

After losing Ekholm I cant see why we still would move Fabbro unless hes already been judged to be "not a Fit" here.

Several teams are looking at goalies so Lanky is also possible.
 

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I don’t doubt we’re still listening on offers but does Gallagher actually have any inside info? It sort of seems like he just makes vague or obvious statements to appear in the know.
Nah Gallagher sucks. He’s essentially one of us with press credentials

Sissons has a cap hit and pedigree that would make him attractive to a team looking to acquire the quintessential "veteran depth"

After losing Ekholm I cant see why we still would move Fabbro unless hes already been judged to be "not a Fit" here.

Several teams are looking at goalies so Lanky is also possible.
Sissons definitely.

Granlund should be another obvious one.

then I’ll say in order from most likely to least.. Fabbro (based off rumors), lankinen, Duchene, McDonagh, Trenin, Saros.

I would be holding on to fabbro. I would shop Lauzon and try to flip Barrie.
 
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Nah Gallagher sucks. He’s essentially one of us with press credentials


Sissons definitely.

Granlund should be another obvious one.

then I’ll say in order from most likely to least.. Fabbro (based off rumors), lankinen, Duchene, McDonagh, Trenin, Saros.

I would be holding on to fabbro. I would shop Lauzon and try to flip Barrie.
I dont see too many teams able to squeeze in Grannys cap hit but who knows.

Lauzon would be ok to shop but hes got a lot of term that teams may not want to eat.

I'm OK with keeping Barrie, at least to see if he helps our PP. Can always trade him in the summer if need be
 

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The past couple of days have been insane, my Preds spreadsheet is a mess, and I'm a mix of emotions. Let's recalibrate...

* The Nashville draft will be Poile's last.
* Trotz takes over for Poile on June 30th
* Preds are 'Resetting'... by trading everything that isn't bolted down. I'm wondering if they have a trade price for Gnash?
* The Nino trade, 'Man, this trade feels underwhelming. I hope the Preds can get more.'
* The Jeannot trade. sweet mother of God!
* The Ekholm trade, feels right AND it will get better after trading Barrie.
* and there will be more to come...
* Losing shouldn't feel this good...But the kids are alright!
* The Preds look like the Nashwaukee Predmirals
* The Ads look like the Milwaukee Bucks G-League team. 10 guys over 6'4"
* oh, and a bunch of talented draftees are coming in Mid-March; 3 signed 1st rd forwards, Svechkov should be signed after the KHL season.
* Will the kids be able to see around the freaking redwood forest that are their teammates?
* Poile is setting up the draft for Trotz like he's his kid. If keeping Brian Poile does this...
* My Preds spreadsheet is a f***ing mess. I'll clean it up Saturday
 
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You know, it's not THAT asinine. We have a prime Josi, a prime Saros and a prime Forsberg on our roster - those are the type of players we may never get from all the picks we have. Flipping Nino, who was a free UFA signing anyways, Jeannot who Tampa seriously overpaid and Ekholm who was nearing the end of his prime for multiple future pieces AND a prime Chychrun?

I could see it happening. We have to try to leverage those primes while they are still here,
I'm not sure about Chychrun in particular, but I agree with this thought process. As mentioned, it's becoming the alternate to hoarding picks and burning the team to the ground and is definitely a strategy I could see being employed here.
 

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I'm not sure about Chychrun in particular, but I agree with this thought process. As mentioned, it's becoming the alternate to hoarding picks and burning the team to the ground and is definitely a strategy I could see being employed here.
it would be the wrong strategy and a continuation of poile. we need to let Trotz get his guys in here and really build something that he likes.
 
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We're assuming Trotz wants to ship off the whole roster and wait 4-5 years for picks to pay off--I don't know we have any firm idea at this point this is the direction he wants to take.
that’s the feel I got from his quotes. You’re right though. We don’t know but I hope that’s the route he takes. The young guys in the lineup currently will take what 2-3 years to really hit their stride? We see the season trenin and Jeannot are having. I think patience is key here and Trotz will get that from me.
 

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it would be the wrong strategy and a continuation of poile. we need to let Trotz get his guys in here and really build something that he likes.
I don't know man. As I said we have some real quality pieces on this roster as is.

Supplementing the roster with another quality veteran or two (and a new coach obviously) could really catapult this thing quickly while injecting our prospect pool with some high-end talent.
 

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I don’t think I’d hunt for a vet in the sense of a later 20s guy but if you can get a 24-25 year old to add the roster I’d be all over it. Maybe somebody like Bratt who’s an RFA and could be a cap casualty?
 
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I don't know man. As I said we have some real quality pieces on this roster as is.

Supplementing the roster with another quality veteran or two (and a new coach obviously) could really catapult this thing quickly while injecting our prospect pool with some high-end talent.
i think we could become a playoff team immediately if it works out like you stated above. but winning a cup? Josi turns 33 in June. Duchene is 32. McDonagh 34 in June. the only guys I see arguments for are Forsberg and Saros.

The cup is too much of a crap shoot. it’s about maximizing a window with a solid core. No one on this roster should be untouchable. Forsberg and Saros the closest thing to it but I would listen on everyone.
 

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i think we could become a playoff team immediately if it works out like you stated above. but winning a cup? Josi turns 33 in June. Duchene is 32. McDonagh 34 in June. the only guys I see arguments for are Forsberg and Saros.

The cup is too much of a crap shoot. it’s about maximizing a window with a solid core. No one on this roster should be untouchable. Forsberg and Saros the closest thing to it but I would listen on everyone.
Fair enough.

But adding a 25-year-old d-man like Chychrun? He could be a mainstay on our blueline for a decade and carry over to his prime with the new core.

I'm not saying blindly that we should just do it but it is something worth considering. I truly think we have some pieces left on this team that we could build around a contender.
 

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Fair enough.

But adding a 25-year-old d-man like Chychrun? He could be a mainstay on our blueline for a decade and carry over to his prime with the new core.

I'm not saying blindly that we should just do it but it is something worth considering. I truly think we have some pieces left on this team that we could build around a contender.
I believe we do.

Chychrun’s rumored ask seems to be crazy high. i don’t see poile giving up the assets after getting so much back for Jeannot.

Going off some of what poile said …

 

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Sissons definitely.

Granlund should be another obvious one.

then I’ll say in order from most likely to least.. Fabbro (based off rumors), lankinen, Duchene, McDonagh, Trenin, Saros.

I would be holding on to fabbro. I would shop Lauzon and try to flip Barrie.
Barrie is kind of a specialist; an O guy playing some D or at least the position. He is the poster boy for a deadline trade. Preds are virtually out of playoffs this year and Barrie doesn’t fit the future here. Flip, flip, flip for virtually anything. Fill in this year on D with “a player to be named later”.
 
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You know, it's not THAT asinine. We have a prime Josi, a prime Saros and a prime Forsberg on our roster - those are the type of players we may never get from all the picks we have. Flipping Nino, who was a free UFA signing anyways, Jeannot who Tampa seriously overpaid and Ekholm who was nearing the end of his prime for multiple future pieces AND a prime Chychrun?

I could see it happening. We have to try to leverage those primes while they are still here,
Josi, Forsberg, Saros prime has done little the last two seasons to move this team forward. Adding young guys from the pipeline in a couple more years can impact with those three. It’s rare rookies have an immediate impact when they do they have names like McDavid , Crosby really generational talent . It took McKinnon 3 years to impact, Taylor Hall has yet to move a team to the finals he has had good years . We have a couple guys that will be NHL guys but by the time they are clicking Josi for sure will be pretty much finished. In no way would I like to see Josi traded he has been my favorite player in this team since his second year. People laughed back then when I said he would be better that Weber and made a case that Weber should be traded. I want Josi to retire here but I also would not blam him if he wanted out to make a cup run.

This rebuild is all about timing put as many hood pieces together to hit and play they there prime. It hurt me to see Ekholm moved I always like his game a guy that did not score often but did everything so well. Moving him in my mind secured that going forward Trotz is not going to add just to make it in the post season, but is focused on bigger goals. One thing we do know Trotz gives every player every chance. Remember how he tried to bring TooToo along? He played one every line in every situation. He even played on The PP with Foppa. That’s how loyal Trotz is but at the end of the day he will let the guys go when needed.

To me this is a very exciting time for the organization. They have never done a rebuild. Every other team in the league has done at least one some three rebuilds since 2004 and the cap put in place. It’s gonna be fun to watch and finall a new owner and I can again come to the building to see games.
 
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