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Pre-Game Talk: Trade Deadline

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Kingsfan1 said:
Mckeown and a 1st for Sekera just doesn't sit well with me. I can't get over it. It was the stupidest trade that is crippling us right now to give up some assets for another playoff run. What if this is our last year to win a Cup with the current lineup since cap space is going to be limited moving forward and we don't have much picks or prospects and the future doesn't look so bright anymore. Chicago just went all out and can beat us leaving us with bitter taste knowing it's only going to get harder from here. I don't see this team beating the Hawks. We didn't even make the playoffs with Sekera, Dean reached way to much with that move knowing there wouldn't be cap space. I love Dean he has done wonders for this team but the Sekera deal haunts me. Mckeown looks very promising and we could have used our 1st this year whether to trade for Ladd or pick a player in this years draft.
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I think you're completely overreacting. I agree that McKeown and a 1st as assets may have helped us acquire Ladd or someone else, but I think most of us should be willing to let the dust clear before we rush to judgment seeing as the deadline is not today so pretending we're done or just sitting on our thumbs while teams around us get better is just creating reasons to be outraged.

I must be one of the only ones who doesn't think those Chicago moves are anything special. Ladd is a nice piece, and Fleischmann and Weise are nice depth, but neither of those guys strike me as "OMG Chicago got WHO?!?", and I'm gonna post the price again because I think it's important for perspective--Chicago gave up the equivalent of Kempe, Forbort, a 1st, and 2 seconds for three rentals. Would we be okay doing that?

Honestly this is starting to sound like damned if he does, damned if he doesn't for DL with a bunch of posters here.
 
Quattro said:
There it is. The obligatory trade Martinez post.
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Maritnez becomes more valuable year by year...especially with losses of Voynov, Sekera, Regehr, Greene being almost worthless...and Forbort, Gravel not quite there.
The Kings can always count on: Doughty, Muzzin and Martinez. McNabb and Schenn being perhaps the next best is scary. Martinez cold only be dealt if the Kings could get
an equal or better defenseman in return and that would be hard to come by. If he was the 5th or 6th best one, that would be different, but he's the third best. So consistent and about as mistake free as they come....not perfect and not capable of 22 minutes,
but pretty stellar.
 
LA has done what it can imho. I'd rather not throw more garbage into the mix. If anything, move out Brown if even a tiny bit possible.
 
Just got back, expecting to see some trading news. What just (didn't) happen?

Is every other team in the entire NHL trading?
 
kingskring said:
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Big trade - I can't believe Dean is wasting MORE picks and MORE prospects!
Minor trade - Dean, you've got a banana peel on your head.
No trade - Way to go Dean, wasting prime Kopitar/Doughty/Quick years.

He's ****ed any way.
 
Raccoon Jesus said:
I think you're completely overreacting. I agree that McKeown and a 1st as assets may have helped us acquire Ladd or someone else, but I think most of us should be willing to let the dust clear before we rush to judgment seeing as the deadline is not today so pretending we're done or just sitting on our thumbs while teams around us get better is just creating reasons to be outraged.

I must be one of the only ones who doesn't think those Chicago moves are anything special. Ladd is a nice piece, and Fleischmann and Weise are nice depth, but neither of those guys strike me as "OMG Chicago got WHO?!?", and I'm gonna post the price again because I think it's important for perspective--Chicago gave up the equivalent of Kempe, Forbort, a 1st, and 2 seconds for three rentals. Would we be okay doing that?

Honestly this is starting to sound like damned if he does, damned if he doesn't for DL with a bunch of posters here.
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Yeah, rental trades are only worth it for one team. Out of the 10 or so teams that trade for a rental, only 1 team will be getting value out of their trade(s). You do what you have to do as a GM.
 
Knight of the Realm said:
LA has done what it can imho. I'd rather not throw more garbage into the mix. If anything, move out Brown if even a tiny bit possible.
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Also to be dumped:
Add Lewis (stone hands), Clifford (lack of hockey sense), one of either Nolan/Andreoff (redundand average roster players) and trade McNabb and a guy like Forbort to acquire a semi decent defensman...
 
wiercoich + prince? prince may be a lw but he and toffoli played on a line together for the 67's. wiercoich is 6' 5" and can play his offside like martinez would rather see what stevens could do with him than schultz.
 
Minor Boarding said:
Also to be dumped:
Add Lewis (stone hands), Clifford (lack of hockey sense), one of either Nolan/Andreoff (redundand average roster players) and trade McNabb and a guy like Forbort to acquire a semi decent defensman...
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Would still love you or anyone else to prove to me why our bottom sixers are such a problem.

I've provided across a number of threads eye test reasons and statistical proof why any of those guys are better than most of their counterparts across the NHL, but no one complaining about them can suggest anything otherwise. Yes, we wish Brown and Lewis would score more, that's about it; not that production ISNT a concern, but if you're keeping the puck in the other end for more than 2/3 of your time on the ice and literally more than anyone else in the NHL, I'd argue you're fulfilling your role just fine.
 
ScoreZeGoals said:
Have I mentioned how much I hate Voynov recently? He left a hole we cannot seem to fill
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Yeah, the day he got arrested I thought to myself that he might have nearly closed the Kings window. Maybe over dramatic at the time (and maybe still is) but what a loss. Just think what they could've gotten for him if they wanted to trade him.
 
SCARFACE909 said:
All I'm gonna post regarding it.
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Yes he bought his way out of his team contract last year and the team was ok with him leaving. But the KHL leadership said that he didn't buy it all out with his own money and wouldn't let him go. So he had to sign for a 1 year deal with another KHL team, so he can leave this year.

He has twice tried to come over to the NHL and has been screwed by the KHL leadership twice. I'm hoping that there's still a chance the Kings will bring him over this year. I mean he's still young at 22. The kid is gonna make mistakes, we all have at that age.

Edit: I'd definitely rather have him then Andreoff/Nolan
 
Minor Boarding said:
Also to be dumped:
Add Lewis (stone hands), Clifford (lack of hockey sense), one of either Nolan/Andreoff (redundand average roster players) and trade McNabb and a guy like Forbort to acquire a semi decent defensman...
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you make less than zero sense. All of those players if magically dumped would have to be replaced. And by whom?
 
Raccoon Jesus said:
I must be one of the only ones who doesn't think those Chicago moves are anything special. Ladd is a nice piece, and Fleischmann and Weise are nice depth, but neither of those guys strike me as "OMG Chicago got WHO?!?", and I'm gonna post the price again because I think it's important for perspective--Chicago gave up the equivalent of Kempe, Forbort, a 1st, and 2 seconds for three rentals. Would we be okay doing that?
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Ladd didn't do much the last time he won it with Chicago. King has more playoffs goals than Ladd does.

It's all going to come down to a handful of players for the Hawks, just like the Kings, and just like any team that ends up winning. If Kane, Toews, Keith, Seabrook, Crawford, and probably still Hossa, do what they do, the Hawks will be fine. If Kopitar, Carter, Doughty, Quick, Muzzin, and Toffoli do what they can do, the Kings will find a way to go deep.

Of course, everyone else on any rosters have to do their jobs too.
 
Minor Boarding said:
Also to be dumped:
Add Lewis (stone hands), Clifford (lack of hockey sense), one of either Nolan/Andreoff (redundand average roster players) and trade McNabb and a guy like Forbort to acquire a semi decent defensman...
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Would you trade for Brown, Lewis, Clifford, Nolan, Andreoff, McNabb, or Forbort?
 
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ScoreZeGoals said:
Have I mentioned how much I hate Voynov recently? He left a hole we cannot seem to fill
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Probably the most accurate thing I read today. I know I am being a little rough on DL the last few posts but it's this that crippled our team more than anything. A perfect 2nd pairing RH shot young Dman with offensive upside.

Doughty - Muzzin
Voynov - McNabb
Schenn - AMart

That solves everything, what could have been, and been good for many years. 22 million approximately and very good. Imagine if you had a team that did not have to worry about their defence and goalie for the next 5 years
 
Raccoon Jesus said:
Would still love you or anyone else to prove to me why our bottom sixers are such a problem.

I've provided across a number of threads eye test reasons and statistical proof why any of those guys are better than most of their counterparts across the NHL, but no one complaining about them can suggest anything otherwise. Yes, we wish Brown and Lewis would score more, that's about it; not that production ISNT a concern, but if you're keeping the puck in the other end for more than 2/3 of your time on the ice and literally more than anyone else in the NHL, I'd argue you're fulfilling your role just fine.
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Brown and Lewis would have trouble scoring on a blind hooker and with what TOI they get, their incompetence makes the Kings bottom 6 about as useful as a boat in Sahara desert.
 
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