LakeLivin
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GDT: Trade Deadline week around the league
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Let’s hope Calgary loses and decides it’s smart to move someone tomorrow. I think Carolina would move their 1st if they get a guy with at least another year on his deal.
Boom Boom Apathy
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KEEP HOPE ALIVE!
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I'm working Calgary's feed tonight, so I'll keep an ear out.
For what it's worth, it sounds like Lindholm has an infant in NICU, so I really doubt they'd trade him with that going on.
For what it's worth, it sounds like Lindholm has an infant in NICU, so I really doubt they'd trade him with that going on.
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Sigurd
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Yes, the next "Cale Makar" who nobody seems to value as much as us when we're in auction wars.
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Damn that sucks. My mom worked NICU for years before switching to ER. She swears that working NICU takes years off your life.
Boom Boom Apathy
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Calgary isn't trading Lindholm. No sense trying to rationalize it.
Svechhammer
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But we were specifically told there would be aggressiveness
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Nikishin Go Boom
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Tom D did say there wasnt much on the market that was going to make much of a difference to our roster. once Meier was out, the writing was on the wall.
But they need good depth if someone in the top 6 gets injured who’s coming up to replace them right now statsny?
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1st line Martinook.
Ahaha I thought of that right after I sent the initial post. I cannot see first line martinook happen again ever but we all know it’s gonna
Sigurd
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About Meier, IMO all the more reason we should've added a 1st round pick from next year on top of everything else we offered (including our 1st from this year) for Meier given the lack of "difference makers" available.
Meier and Horvat were overall the two best forward players we could've gotten (with Chychrun being a close third if we include defense), and since unlike with Vancouver and Horvat, draft pick position was not a concern for San Jose with Meier (obviously when New Jersey was/is 2nd place in our division; they're only 1 point behind us now), why not offer an additional late 1st round pick for Meier? If they say no, we can move on and feel like we left everything on the table but our untouchable players. Clearly we weren't going to trade Jarvis or Nikishin, and so really the only other thing of significance was next year's 1st round pick.
But what do I know. I'm just a random person on the internet, and a person that sees late 1st round picks being expendable for a player of Meier's talent and age (or Chychrun for that matter).
Meier and Horvat were overall the two best forward players we could've gotten (with Chychrun being a close third if we include defense), and since unlike with Vancouver and Horvat, draft pick position was not a concern for San Jose with Meier (obviously when New Jersey was/is 2nd place in our division; they're only 1 point behind us now), why not offer an additional late 1st round pick for Meier? If they say no, we can move on and feel like we left everything on the table but our untouchable players. Clearly we weren't going to trade Jarvis or Nikishin, and so really the only other thing of significance was next year's 1st round pick.
But what do I know. I'm just a random person on the internet, and a person that sees late 1st round picks being expendable for a player of Meier's talent and age (or Chychrun for that matter).
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We don’t know what the other 3 pieces offered were so its hard to say what switching our 2nd to a conditional first would have done. If it’s Philly’s 2nd vs a conditional first the pick is likely to only be 10 spots worse than NJ’s and then it would be ~20 spots better if the conditions aren’t met.
Either way, who knows what we would have made better if given the chance
Sigurd
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FWIW, personally, I would've offered a top 10 protected 2024 1st round pick (or unprotected if they insist; I doubt we fall off a cliff next season) on top of this year's 1st round and Philly's 2nd round from next year; which I think we all assumed they offered. Of course that's on top of Morrow and whatever 3 non-Nikishin prospects we offered. Typing all that, it truly is a major package. I'd feel better about it if Meier was a center, but I'd still do it.
True.
It's hard to say if it would've been enough, and especially if San Jose loved one or more of Jersey's players so much; which they seemed to have. Some GMs fall in love with players.
And given NJ was getting every chance to match from San Jose, who knows what Jersey would counter with if Carolina improved one of the 6 pieces.
I don’t think there was anything reasonable Carolina could offer that Jersey wouldn’t have matched.
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Sigurd
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Yes, that is very important not to forget the public announcement of New Jersey asking for a final notice/offer to counter another team's offer. I'm not sure, but that sounds uncommon in the NHL (other people are probably more familiar with the historical trade world than I am), and so that would be an unfair advantage.
However, if we had offered an additional 1st round pick on top of everything else, and New Jersey then had an even better counter offer, at least we would've raised the price for New Jersey before we walked away. That's important for a divisional opponent to pay a heavier price for a significant player without us even offering Jarvis or Nikishin.
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He’s been playing really well too. He was driving the line as much as Panarin, who hasn’t been himself this season. Watching them tonight, he’s made a lot of solid plays that just didn’t end up in the net. Almost 50 pts before Kane even showed up.
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