Pre-Game Talk: Trade Deadline: Valid Rumors ONLY (Confirmed Trades in OP / Vanek to MTL )

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All fair scenarios, but I think you are overstating the greyness of the LTIR option.

The following questions needs to be answered by the doctor:

1.) Do I have an injury?

2.) Would any doctor agree with you that I have this injury?

3.) If I keep playing despite this injury, is there a substansial risk that I will get problems in my life after hockey?

I mean, if you get the doctor to say yes to this, there is no risk with the league or anyone else. Right?

And I think just about any player that goes past like 35 gets the above go-to-LTIR card, probably on the basis of 3-5 problems. I honestly think that most could make a good argument when they are 25-30 y/o if they wanted too... Whether they will get paid by insurance or not, I don't really know. That might be trickier, but the threshold to go on LTIR is in principle if a player's team can claim breach of contract if the player don't play, and there is no way a team can do that if a doctor states the above.

Facts are that any vet in hockey got lingering problems that they play through.

Well and that's the point--everyone has lingering injuries, and playing late into your career with a deteriorating body is risky for anyone. Knowing that everyone has those issues, it's going to be a tough sell to the league when Player X, who happens to carry a cap-crushing hit, is suddenly deemed by a team's physician to be no longer capable of playing. That's probably going to raise some red flags in the League's office.

Anyway, LTIR is for players "unfit to play (i.e., is injured, ill or disabled and unable to perform his duties as a hockey Player)." It's not really for guys that are banged up who have creaky knees that might fall apart if they keep playing. For those guys? It's retirement. Chris Pronger, for example, is able to sit on LTIR forever because he's still suffering debilitating daily effects of PCS. If he became "healthy," though--that is healthy enough to return to his duties--he'd have to come off LTIR or retire. Simply being "at risk for further injury" isn't grounds for being placed on LTIR; you have to actually be physically unable to play.

If a guy is actually injured and unable to play, yeah, he could do LTIR. But again, when healthy, he'd have to come off or retire. Being old doesn't qualify a guy for that list.
 
It's all about the price. He plays like he's 30 and he's still great. He would be a great addition for the next three or four years (hank's prime year remaining) and give us a legit chance to win again depending on what he costs. I would push this all the way to the deadline to try and get it done since he wants to come here and Stevie Y may have to accomodate him to avoid having a disgruntled captain.

wouild you take whatever picks we get for Callahan, add Duclair and Stralman?

I would take the callahan picks and add stralman but not duclair who just scored 50 plus goals in juniors and as you know we don't have too many of these kind of scorers floating around.
 
I would take the callahan picks and add stralman but not duclair who just scored 50 plus goals in juniors and as you know we don't have too many of these kind of scorers floating around.

Who will replace Stralman? If we're trading for MSL, I doubt we're doing that with an eye out for throwing in McIlrath for the playoff chase.
 
Gaborik to LA
Michael Russo ‏@Russostrib 54s
I'm hearing now Gaborik to #lakings is a done deal. Don't know for what
 
Michael Russo ‏@Russostrib 2m
Hate to backtrack on Twitter (always fun), but now told Gaborik to #lakings is not quite done deal. Source is close to Gaborik tho

Pierre LeBrun ‏@Real_ESPNLeBrun 9s
Told that LA and Columbus still talking on Gaborik, still no deal yet
 
Ricky otazu ‏@Dagoon44 2m
Rangers 100 percent back in talks with Vancouver

Strange situation.
 
Bob McKenzie ‏@TSNBobMcKenzie 28s
Hearing Marty St. Louis to NYR has really ramped up and may be much closer to reality. Stay tuned. #Tradecentre
 
that is not that bad of a deal. of course pending what draft picks. but it's essentially Cally for MSL in the active roster. A SIGNIFICANT upgrade.
 
Got to be losing a first in this deal, which sucks, but I'll take it over losing one of the young guys. Glad to hear that it's going to happen, would much rather lose a first for this year and get MSL than give Callahan a 6X6 contract.
 
The Hockey News ‏@TheHockeyNews 2m
As per @TSNBobMcKenzie, St-Louis to Rangers for a package involving Ryan Callahan is close.
 
Larry Brooks ‏@NYP_Brooksie 44s
From two sources : Rangers drawing closer on trade for St . Louis
 
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