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Trade Deadline Thread (March 3)

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WhereAreTheCookies said:
Tampa is a masterclass on how to manage your cap and continue to keep your core competitive. Seems like too many are married to the idea that we have like 12-15 core players especially when you start counting prospects among them, and that's just never going to work.
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Tampa also has shown the ability to navigate what happens when someone goes from core to non-core. It's not a set list that never alters. It shifts over time to encompass new players and move out others, but they rarely don't do whatever is in their power to make the ones they want to keep stay. I don't think they decided to trade for McDonough or Sergechev or Paul or Coleman or Jeannot even thinking they needed to worry about what happens at the end of someone else's contract. They identify what they need and they get it. And they identify who they need to keep and keep them.

If the Sabres prospect pool is actually as deep as it is reported to be, we're going to have to get comfortable with missing out on the fruits of some of their labor as they go to other teams and succeed. But that's easiest when the team on the ice is good. Tampa fans aren't bemoaning having had Carter Verhaeghe or Jonathon Marschessault before they became impactful.
 
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MOGlLNY said:
what? the way the NHL is set up is literally the opposite of this.

The huge markets that have won recently of *checks notes*
Colorado (I'll give you this one, although Denver hardly a power house market)
Tampa
St Louis
DC
Pittsburgh
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Tampa is a top market, and yes, there are obviously exceptions to the rule. But the league is definitely tilted to make the big market teams successful, and everyone states this regularly who works in the sport. It's not a controversial statement.
 
Jim Bob said:
Maybe they weren't and it was overblown by the media.

I think there are two likely reasons why the Sabres didn't land Chychrun:

1) The Sabres interest was overblown by the media and they were not really that interested in him
2) The Sabres valued their 2023 1st to the extent that they were unwilling to top the Senators offer.

And we do not know which one is what really happened.
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If #1 is correct then it speaks quite poorly to their ability to evaluate talent (even more so than going out and acquiring a below replacement level defenseman worse than the ones we already have).

If #2 is correct they are failing to understand this is a nothing out of the ordinary draft after the first 5-6 picks and is very weak for defensemen (our single most glaring need). The odds Chychrun is better than any defenseman they could get with the pick are quite high.
 
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MOGlLNY said:
I mean just not true, statistically this deadline has already doubled the number of trades that most do.
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Sure maybe not at the clip we are seeing this season, but there are plenty of deadlines that we see many times give up a ton of futures for rentals.
 
Right now prices are the highest. There are going to be teams tomorrow that were left without a trading partner and need to get something before the deadline. I'm speculating that is when Adams will make a couple of moves.

We're not looking for a roster overhaul at the trade deadline - especially in a year where we're in a hunt for a playoff spot, but we are not going to be beating out Boston, Tampa, Toronto, Carolina, and the Rangers for the Cup. There are still players to be had tomorrow.
 
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Interesting disparity among the wild card contenders. Detroit and Washington selling (really like what their GMs have done this week). Pittsburgh, Ottawa, and NYI buying. Buffalo and Florida standing pat
 
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Jim Bob said:
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I get that he isn't a tire fire defensively. I just know that we don't know what Adams and company actually think of Chychrun, how they viewed his fit on the roster, and what they were willing to offer for him, if they were indeed really interested.

All we know if that they didn't land him. It could have been placing a high value on their picks or it could be a lack of interest. It wouldn't be the first time that the Sabres being interested in a player getting overblown by the media.
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At this point, the body of work Adams has shown in terms of acquired defensemen is filled with scant impact and non-contributors.
 
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enthusiast said:
Why add Luke Schenn if you aren’t going to win the cup?
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I am in no way advocating that we should have gotten Schenn. But from a big picture POV this team getting over the decade-long hump and getting into the playoffs for a taste is very much worth a couple mid round picks, even if we get swept. Getting that playoff experience a year or two ahead of schedule would be huge for this core of players. Putting the drought narrative to bed would take a lot of pressure off of the organization and gain us some much needed respect

Chainshot said:
Florida has very little left to buy with.
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So we’re the only team doing nothing with no excuse to be doing so, even better lol
 
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Dingo44 said:
Right now prices are the highest. There are going to be teams tomorrow that were left without a trading partner and need to get something before the deadline. I'm speculating that is when Adams will make a couple of moves.

We're not looking for a roster overhaul at the trade deadline - especially in a year where we're in a hunt for a playoff spot, but we are not going to be beating out Boston, Tampa, Toronto, Carolina, and the Rangers for the Cup. There are still players to be had tomorrow.
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Some prices have been outlandish... some prices have been pretty damn good.

Nobody on here is crying about not paying a Tanner Jeannot price tag.
 
Rowley Birkin said:
I'm assuming you want to hold on to Mackenzie Weegar - but he's the guy i'd really give up a lot for...


He won't do that. He'll pick up a bunch more highly skilled but soft, perimeter forwards with all these picks & think he's doing it right.
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I like weegar a lot but I don't think we would get full value for him rn. He's actually insane defensively, him and tanev tgt gives up nothing. Unfortunately idk where that offense he showed in Florida went, we know he can do it, if he ever puts up 40/50 pts again while playing the D he is rn he's a top 10 D in the league.
 
sabremike said:
If #1 is correct then it speaks quite poorly to their ability to evaluate talent (even more so than going out and acquiring a below replacement level defenseman worse than the ones we already have).

If #2 is correct they are failing to understand this is a nothing out of the ordinary draft after the first 5-6 picks and is very weak for defensemen (our single most glaring need). The odds Chychrun is better than any defenseman they could get with the pick are quite high.
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#1 could be more about not seeing Chychrun as a fit versus just better than the 4th-7th best D the Sabres have today. They could view Chychrun as the 3rd best D of his type behind Dahlin and Power and not worth the trade assets as the anchor of a 3rd pairing if they did not see him as a fit as Power's partner.

And on #2, I doubt they looked at it as the pick vs Chychrun at all. It is likely more about valuing picks in general versus a player like Chychrun that is under team control for 2.25 seasons.
 
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Beerz said:
Do you think most teams 7th best prospect is comparable to our 7th best prospect?
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What are we qualifying as prospects? What standards to mark someone as a prospect are we looking at (besides those not in the NHL)?
 
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