Trade Deadline Thread: Chaos Simmering

[Diversification]

Raty + pick and call it a day.

Depends on the pick. If its a 2nd, I would think that Raty is overpayment.

 

[BoHorvat 53]

PLEAAAAAASSSEE

No Lekk/Will/Hog though

Seravalli said he thinks Toffoli ends up on the Kings.

 

[timw33]

Yeah he really did kind of pull a Kesler on the Flames. Its on Conroy allowing so much leverage but I dont think there was good value to be had in this situation. They should have been able to do better regardless

Kesler had a full NTC
Hanafin had an 8 team NTC (likely the usual suspects, Canada and the shithole US teams) and could have been traded to 24 other teams.

Conroy got paid a rental price for Hanafin so why not get the rental price from a team willing to give you a better throw-in player/prospect or better picks?

 

[SelltheTeamFrancesco]

PLEAAAAAASSSEE

No Lekk/Will/Hog though

Nooooooo we want Buchnevich.

 

[Mr. Canucklehead]

Toffoli as a rental shouldn't get anything more than a B prospect + pick.

Hoglander is already a better player than him as well.

I’m thinking a 1st and a C-level prospect, or a 2nd and a B-level prospect with some retention involved for Toffoli, wherever he goes.

 

[VanillaCoke]

Toffoli makes too much sense here

 

[BoHorvat 53]

I’m thinking a 1st and a C-level prospect, or a 2nd and a B-level prospect with some retention involved for Toffoli, wherever he goes.

A 1st for Toffoli would be nuts, I'm good on that

 

[wonton15]

I can see him going to LA or Vegas.

Everyone around us getting harder better faster stronger

 

[ephmrl]

Wonder if the price will come down on Vatrano with teams opting for other options

 

[Tact]

I’m thinking a 1st and a C-level prospect, or a 2nd and a B-level prospect with some retention involved for Toffoli, wherever he goes.

Yes 2nd+Raty would work for us given management doesn’t want to trade its 1st round pick. I would even go Podkolzin if NJD preferred just to get it done:

 

[Billy Kvcmu]

Seravalli said he thinks Toffoli ends up on the Kings.

That doesn’t mean anything, Hanafin was supposed to go to Tampa

 

[Bourne Endeavor]

Seravalli said he thinks Toffoli ends up on the Kings.

Don't do that to us, Toffoli! We're sorry. Come back!

 

[BoHorvat 53]

That doesn’t mean anything, Hanafin was supposed to go to Tampa

...but it does mean something? How can you just disregard his opinion lol his job is to literally cover this stuff.

Hanifin was down to Tampa/Vegas based off of what he's said, don't see how he was wrong there.

 

[valkynax]

I’m thinking a 1st and a C-level prospect, or a 2nd and a B-level prospect with some retention involved for Toffoli, wherever he goes.

Just hope it's not an overpayment.

 

[LemonSauceD]

It's not that big of difference. The largest tax burden is federal income tax and not state income tax. NFL receiver making $30 mil a year said he saved about $2.7 mil by not signing in New York and signing in Miami instead. So it's ~10% difference (likely less because there are soooooo many ways to shelter money in the states). Athletes also have to pay a good chunk of tax for away games as many US states have a Jock tax (only 5 don't). For NHL players that can be pretty big and it doesn't much matter where you live.

Yes you’re right. Though jock tax takes into account games you’ve actually played outside of state. Pretty insignificant.

So if you played 34 games out of state and you make $8M a year, you would then be taxed on the percentage of games you played outside state . So 34 out of 82 games would be 41.4% or $3,312,000. Take California’s jock tax of 13.3% and you’d pay $440,196.

It’s a much different thing when you’re taxed 55% of your entire salary vs 32%.

Edit: correction on the math

 

[Bourne Endeavor]

If it's not us. I really hope it's Carolina or something. If it's the Kings. Well... almost everyone around us would have gotten a lot better.

 

[Just A Bit Outside]

Unless mgmt still thinks there is a legitimate shot at Guentzel, they need to pivot.

 

[SeawaterOnIce]

Let's ****ing go!!!!!!

 

[Wayward Son]

Let's ****ing go!!!!!!

Awesome! Love it for the Abby fans too.

 

[Just A Bit Outside]

Let's ****ing go!!!!!!

Hopefully he is still with the Nucks by then.

 

[BoHorvat 53]

Unless mgmt still thinks there is a legitimate shot at Guentzel, they need to pivot.

Friedman said he thinks the Canucks are going to be in big on Toffoli because they've essentially accepted they're out on him, but that was early this morning. Pretty sure they've already pivoted, and that Guentzel to VAN is dead.

 

[Vector]

Guentzel:

The Canucks are certainly a team that’s made enquiries, but at this point having spoken with people around the story, the Canucks are decidedly not the front-runner, rather they’re in the extremely-unlikely camp at this point.

 

[LemonSauceD]

 

[alternate]

Any recent positive rumors?

 

[Vector]

Any recent positive rumors?

Unfortunately nothing substantial.