I'd rather dump Dumo, keep Petts as Tanger's partner and put Gavrikov with Petry.
My reasons to trade Pettersson are that a) he hit his peak and I think he won’t sustain that level of play and b) his M-NTC kicks in next season. POJ is a keeper for me, same as Smith.
Aren’t we kind of a dumb organization now, or are we still playing the patient card?
Replace Petterson with Dumo and I’m down.
If Petts fetches us pieces that help us land a big fish (Chychrun/Meier level) I could potentially get on board, it also sorts out 4 million in cap and potentially another 4 million if we dump Dumo.
According to capfriendly he has a modified NTC with 8 teams for the next 3 years.
I don’t think they trade Dumo. They see him as an integral part of this team and I would not be surprised if they sign him to a 2/3 year deal in the offseason.
I didn't realize he did, either, but CapFriendly has the details:
www.capfriendly.com
If this happens we will know for sure that we’re now in the lottery phase of the Penguins and that there’s no way out until we’ve rebuilt through the draft.
What is a realistic return for Pettersson? Let's say you can make a trade with Detroit:
a 2nd and prospect is the max for Kane
and this is the problem with this franchise, way too conservative and we're gonna keep taking steps back
Even worse, I would say it would be confirmation that we're in a new country club phase and that players will be rewarded/paid based on past accomplishments and not what they currently are. Which means we'll be stuck in purgatory of not being bad enough to get impactful players in the draft but not good enough to be competitive aka Flyersville.
Why would Kane want to play in our boring ass system? Notice he actually picked two ”fun” teams with young talent lol…I think he would drive a line and could be our Kessel on L3 for the POs and I’d love to have him even if he’s a douche…but the only players we have to trade imo are McGinn, Kap, Blueger, anyone else on our fourth line, Carter if he’ll waive (please god) and Dumo…anything else would be crippling…also a second round pick…but we need to get rid of cap space to bring him in so I don’t think a second and prospect will work
Basically the Rakell return - 2nd + decent prospect + cap dumps needed to make the money work.
I’d trade Rust for Kane, if both sides agreed. Rust’s deal already looks brutal in year 1, and he’s only going to get worse in a jiffy.
Just so we're clear - you want to trade Pettersson because he's playing well ("peaked") and you don't think he can keep up that level of play but you want to bring in Gavrikov and give him the same $4mil and...hope he keeps up his level of current play?
Amen. Dumoulin needs to be shown the door. It's the polite thing to do because this team simply cannot afford what he will likely want to make and you don't want to insult him by lowballing him.
The idea is to sell high on Petts because he has a similar skillset as POJ and Gavrikov brings a physical element the Pens are lacking in a big way.
We have Letang and Dumo who are physical. Petry and Rutta who are too. We aren't lacking physicality.
