GDT: Trade Deadline: Tampa won the Jeannot sweepstakes!

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Big Friggin Dummy

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Niedereitter has 18 goals.
Kapanen has 7.

Niedereitter has 6 20 goal seasons and will likely have his 7th.
Kapanen has 1.

Niedereitter drives play and possession.
Kapanen floats.

Niedereitter is a physical presence.
Kapanen is not.
Man you're gonna get a nasty letter from the Kappy brigade if you keep that kinda talk up. :laugh:
 
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Lustaf

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Niedereitter has 18 goals.
Kapanen has 7.

Niedereitter has 6 20 goal seasons and will likely have his 7th.
Kapanen has 1.

Niedereitter drives play and possession.
Kapanen floats.

Niedereitter is a physical presence.
Kapanen is not.
My point wasn't he's worth a 2nd too, it's that he should have been move able for at the very least a late round pick.

BEYOND terrible assessment management.
 
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So how do we only have 400k in space now after letting Kap go?

Rutta came off LTIR

Where did you get the 400k number from? It's more like 1.8M
 

Night Shift

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Rutta came off LTIR

Where did you get the 400k number from?

One of the threads here had a tweet posted. Maybe its 472k after Ruuta. But I don't understand how we were able to run negative like that all season. I thought we were around 400k with everyone up except Ty Smith.
 

Freeptop

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The confusion around this is that in actual dollars, the cap space is about $400k, but when you factor in pro-rating the cap hit based on the number of games remaining, the Pens can add a player whose full-year cap hit is up to about $1.8M without having to unload additional salary in return.

Barring calling anyone up or making any further moves, then each day the full-year equivalent number will go up by a little bit, as the number of days the cap hit is being pro-rated against decreases.
CapFriendly shows that if they wait until the Trade Deadline, that number will rise to a little over $2M.
 

Zirakzigil

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The confusion around this is that in actual dollars, the cap space is about $400k, but when you factor in pro-rating the cap hit based on the number of games remaining, the Pens can add a player whose full-year cap hit is up to about $1.8M without having to unload additional salary in return.

Barring calling anyone up or making any further moves, then each day the full-year equivalent number will go up by a little bit, as the number of days the cap hit is being pro-rated against decreases.
CapFriendly shows that if they wait until the Trade Deadline, that number will rise to a little over $2M.
This, cap space and actual dollars are very different. We havent really accumulated space daily due to the amount of injury callups.
 

Tender Rip

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Hex is going to wait until the deadline to maximize cap, maybe/likely waive Friedman and/or send down DOC (grrr!) to get more, and see if the team gives him any reason to add in the games between now and then.

Would be my guess.
 

The GM

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Niedereitter has 18 goals.
Kapanen has 7.

Niedereitter has 6 20 goal seasons and will likely have his 7th.
Kapanen has 1.

Niedereitter drives play and possession.
Kapanen floats.

Niedereitter is a physical presence.
Kapanen is not.
So they are similar players, if adjusted for their salaries?
 
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Andy99

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Now this is the kind of trade Hextall needs to make to save face: a washed up D man for a feisty forechecking forward who can score…would SJ take a Dumo for Meier trade?

 

Rakell67

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Now this is the kind of trade Hextall needs to make to save face: a washed up D man for a feisty forechecking forward who can score…would SJ take a Dumo for Meier trade?


Barbashev could be a Kunitz type.
 

Pens x

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Niedereitter has 18 goals.
Kapanen has 7.

Niedereitter has 6 20 goal seasons and will likely have his 7th.
Kapanen has 1.

Niedereitter drives play and possession.
Kapanen floats.

Niedereitter is a physical presence.
Kapanen is not.
Nino was available this summer as a free agent, but change scares Sleepy.
 

Gurglesons

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Niedereitter has 18 goals.
Kapanen has 7.

Niedereitter has 6 20 goal seasons and will likely have his 7th.
Kapanen has 1.

Niedereitter drives play and possession.
Kapanen floats.

Niedereitter is a physical presence.
Kapanen is not.

Niedereitter and Kapanen are similar players in that they are largely flawed outside of a few aspects and are not heavy IQ players.

Nino loves to shoot which makes his fancy stats look much better than Kapanen. He has size and scores goals.

Kapanen had a similar rate of assists to what Nino does goalscoring wise.

He has speed and creativity with the puck, but also is dumb and is more of a perimeter player.

They both are the same type of flawed middle six guy that can’t carry a line.
 
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Pens x

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Niedereitter and Kapanen are similar players in that they are largely flawed outside of a few aspects and are not heavy IQ players.

Nino loves to shoot which makes his fancy stats look much better than Kapanen. He has size and scores goals.

Kapanen had a similar rate of assists to what Nino does goalscoring wise.

He has speed and creativity with the puck, but also is dumb and is more of a perimeter player.

They both are the same type of flawed middle six guy that can’t carry a line.
One was waived, one fetched a 2nd round pick. Our dumbass GM signed the guy that ended up getting waived.
 

HandshakeLine

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The asset management of this club has been weird since Hexy came over and it seems like they just kind of don't know what the team should be. Why go through all the trouble to sign Kap, not to use him, and ultimately to lose him to waivers? We could have done this whole dance months ago.
 
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