GDT: TRADE DEADLINE - Pittsburgh Penguins Only

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Empoleon8771

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Does he need to be an impact player tho? The pens needed depth scoring, a right handed shot and some bigger bodies to get garbage in front of the net. Thats what Carter is. They have their impact players in Jake, Sid, Geno, Rust and maybe Kap if he comes back the same way.

Yeah exactly, this is spot on. They paid a conditional 3rd and 4th for him. They didn't pay "impact player" prices, so why is there an expectation for Carter to be an impact player?
 

pistolpete11

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I mean that's still value, though. If the Penguins traded Riikola for a KHL prospect and an AHL cap dump, I still consider that "value".
From the Leafs point of view, they didn't give up anything and they were able to dump a high priced AHL contract. That's better for them than claiming Chucky off waivers.
 

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Why would a team trade a pick for Riikola when he was just on waivers and they could have got him for free? I don't think you get anything for the Lafferty's, Jankowski's, Sceviour's either.

I don't want to see Riikola traded anyway. I think the plan in the offseason should be to move Petts or Matheson if one of them isn't taken in the ED. Then give POJ a shot at 3LD and if he doesn't take it, you have Riikola as insurance.

Because if you're a team who wants a bit more depth for your playoff run but won't be keeping it in the big show, grabbing Riikola off of waivers means you then have to send him through yourself and hope another team doesn't grab him, while trading for him once he's been through means you can stow him safely.

I don't think it'd be that hard to find alternate insurance in the off-season either, particularly if its true that Friedman is more comfortable on his left than his right.

Erod has killed offense all year with dumb plays and passes. TB has been so much stronger and has better decision making. I will admit I didn't watch Erod in Buffalo so I dont know what he is like in form. But he is a big downgrade on TB right now.

I don't see a huge difference. Blueger is better at holding onto the puck to keep the play alive which makes a big difference but in terms of pure making plays, Rodrigues is just as capable of spotting and delivering the killing pass - and has set up a bunch of high grade opportunities recently. Blueger will set up more shots, but there's not such a big difference in how many really dangerous plays they make.

I guess if you include puck retention as part of playmaking then, yeah, difference. But I wasn't doing so there.

Why? I believe that even old, vile-smelling dogs with skin disorders deserve a forever home as Good Boys.

I mean, a couple of months of this? Of course I want this.
 

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Yeah exactly, this is spot on. They paid a conditional 3rd and 4th for him. They didn't pay "impact player" prices, so why is there an expectation for Carter to be an impact player?
Depth is all we’re looking for. Just a body or two to get some guys out of the lineup.
 

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Oh yeah I got that, you just gotta pick and choose which streaming services so you don't fall into the trap of paying equal or more than cable. You can't just get every single streaming service, you just have to be smart about it.

Don’t watch a ton of TV when I do it’s sports so I pay for cable and ESPN+. Bogart my family’s HBO and Netflix, gf’s Hulu when needed. Out of market NHL/Pens I get my hands dirty for. I’ll buy the Center Ice when I make more money though.

ESPN+ is worth it IMO, but I watch a lot of college lacrosse so that’s kinda niche :laugh:
 

JRS91

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I think we need to see Carter play here before we make that assumption. This is a low risk, medium return trade, so there isn’t a lot of reason to complain. But I’m not sold that Carter is an impact player here.

I don't think he needs to be an impact player.

He just provides good versatility and depth. He's an upgrade at center over Jankowski and Gaudreau. He's an upgrade at RW over Rodrigues, Tanev and Angello. At least from an offensive perspective. I would even say he's an upgrade over Blueger offensively.
 

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Because if you're a team who wants a bit more depth for your playoff run but won't be keeping it in the big show, grabbing Riikola off of waivers means you then have to send him through yourself and hope another team doesn't grab him, while trading for him once he's been through means you can stow him safely.
So a #8D? How much are teams willing to trade for that?

I don't think it'd be that hard to find alternate insurance in the off-season either, particularly if its true that Friedman is more comfortable on his left than his right.
I'm not as sold on Friedman as others are, but fair point.
 

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So a #8D? How much are teams willing to trade for that?


I'm not as sold on Friedman as others are, but fair point.

7th or AHL prospect that's going nowhere is about the going rate. Which probably isn't tempting Hextall into trading depth right now, no matter how much he wants assets. But I think he'd consider it if someone overpaid, or maybe offered it for a UFA who mightn't play another game for us all season.
 

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BACK ON THE RIDE BITCHES

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Empoleon8771

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He is French Canadian, but he is a useless semi-goon.

I am torn.

The good news is that since the Penguins have so many forwards, it probably has to be a swap of a forward for Deslauriers. Is Lafferty for Deslauriers a bad move? I don't think so.

I'm just concerned that the Penguins will waive Gaudreau to give Deslauriers a roster spot, which puts them at risk at losing Gaudreau to waivers.
 

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I don't believe we need him. Why him over anyone on BART or Angello/Laffy/Sceviour/GOAT...makes no sense. Jank 1:1, sure .
 
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JRS91

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I'm not sure why everyone is so down on Deslauriers.

He's most likely a depth guy that'll play against Bruins, Islanders and Capitals.
 
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OnMyOwn

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I’d support it just like I did yesterday. He’d get scratched a lot but can actually skate and play and fights everyone. There’s no real harm in him.
 

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Once again, I’m totally fine with grabbing a guy like him for cheap. He can play on the 4th line against teams like WSH. He’s not a total goon like Sestito and even Sestito was fine in a limited RS role.
 
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