GDT: Trade Deadline Day

[Nineteen67]

If Treliving could land Morgan Geekie out of Boston and Luke Schenn out of Pittsburgh without vastly overpaying, I'd be happy I suppose.

Solves the 3C and the Right Shot D issues with more than reasonable cap hits.

In saying that, it's the off season that concerns me, re-signing Tavares and Marner, then running it back yet another year will continue to yield the same results. I want this team to actually try to win a Cup, not whatever it is they are currently doing.

They get another chance this year to show they can play and if they get pushed out again, fans and media will be talking about the need for massive changes, and management will likely extend Marner and Tavares with an overpay and they’ll all get another chance next spring.

 

[darrylsittler27]

I'm looking at that Brock Nelson trade in amazement. Lou really got a excellent return for his team.

Some teams are stupid. Nelson doesn't make anyone a contender . Gross overpay that will make no difference.

 

[Cams]

on one hand, i dont want them to lose the little assets we barely have, on another I want to win. but i also know that all these TDL help we got so far hasnt worked out, so I dunno..

It's a lose - lose situation no matter what unless they get to the conf finals or further.

It will be either:
A - They didn't do enough, sat on their hands, too scared to move X/Y/Z
OR
B - Why did they trade X/Y/Z, etc and only got this far

Dubas got blamed both ways, and you can see from the comments in this thread that Treliving is also being blamed both ways already and trade deadline day isn't even over.

 

[thewave]

They get another chance this year to show they can play and if they get pushed out again, fans and media will be talking about the need for massive changes, and management will likely extend Marner and Tavares with an overpay and they’ll all get another chance next spring.

Bottom line is a contender has reliable players that don't make errors under pressure. VGK decimated us as many players buckled under pressure.

They should watch that game over and over and take a lot of notes.

 

[Punch Drunk Loov]

I just don't see a path to us winning more than 3 - 7 playoff games. I don't want to lose Minten/Cowan and more high picks just to help us get to the 2nd round.

 

[Nineteen67]

We don't have the assets to do what those teams are doing. Thanks Dubas



I think Matthews can be a winner and so can Nylander. The team isn't built right though.

Matthews would be a great second center on a contending team.

 

[All Mod Cons]

Donato
Tanev
Murphy

If they don't cost an absurd amount like everything so far has.

 

[thewave]

Matthews would be a great second center on a contending team.

Nah, get him a Roberts on his wing and another mean winger. He will be good. He is like Kadri, likes to play with rough guys. Look at how he loves the fights.

Team doesn't know how to use him. It's. A sad waste of talent

 

[Hotpot]

Is the plus Power, Dahlin and Thompson all 50% retained?

Just Cozens 50% retained is good

Nah, get him a Roberts on his wing and another mean winger. He will be good. He is like Kadri, likes to play with rough guys. Look at how he loves the fights.

Team doesn't know how to use him. It's. A sad waste of talent

Yeah, Matthews should be more effective in the playoff if he played with Thachuk, either one of the brothers.

 

[Suntouchable13]

So if this is not the "right time" when will it be? When you re-sign Marner and JT, what would be so different next year? I don't get the plan here? Why do you have all these guys here for and paying them through the nose?

 

[Skullz]

The prices are astonishing. Glad we didn't pay for Nelson.

Pivot: get either Donato or Geekie to fill the center hole, should be cheaper than Laughton. Trade for Carlo.

Knies - Matthew - Marner
McMann - Tavares - Nylander
Robertson - Geekie/Donato - Jarnkrok
Lorentz - Kampf - Holmberg

McCabe - Tanev
Rielly - Carlo
OEL - Myers.

If we can upgrade in bottom six for cheap, I would be open to that too. But not at expense of 3C or RHD.

 

[TheGreenTBer]

on one hand, i dont want them to lose the little assets we barely have, on another I want to win. but i also know that all these TDL help we got so far hasnt worked out, so I dunno..

The TDL help hasn't worked out because the guys that need to be our best players haven't been good enough in the playoffs and until they are there are no deadline acquisitions that will fix us.

Can't say it any more simply than that.

 

[IrishInOntario]

How about we don't move Knies for anything less than a 1st paring RHD or a 70+ point 2C in his prime, with term (and ideally retention)... Essentially, 2 needs that Toronto simply cannot afford to pass up.

Obviously Knies nets neither of those assets on his own, however, I'm not interested in moving our 22 year old Zack Hyman / Chris Kunitz unless something of that value is coming back. There is nothing on the wing that likely makes sense for the Leafs. 1 RHD or 2C, otherwise I'm passing.

 

[All Mod Cons]

So if this is not the "right time" when will it be? When you re-sign Marner and JT, what would be so different next year? I don't get the plan here? Why do you have all these guys here for and paying them through the nose?

The right time should have never come. With the exception of the All Canadian division, this team shouldn't have pushed so many draft picks and prospects out the door every deadline.

If Marner and Tavares walk, I really want the organization to still have the snall amount of prospects they have. I'd much rather that, than no Marner and Tavares and playing our usual 7 playoff games this year.

This snowball effect started the minute Dubas was hired and there's no stopping it.

Pittsburgh are going through the same thing.

 

[Warden of the North]

Id rather go for a cheaper 3C then someone like Schenn, who is a 3C at this point in his career, but has a big number and a name that will drive his price up. Schenn is the move this team makes historically, hoping that he can be his 27 year old self, when in reality hes in his 30s with his body falling apart.

 

[IrishInOntario]

I'm only interested in a bottom 6 upgrade if it's a guy that management sees as a longer term fit. The additional has to have term or has to be highly interested in an extension with the Leafs. We're not such an obvious contender that we should be chasing rentals, IMO. It has to be a guy that has tread left on the tire / development or development left in him, that can be around for a few years.

The Leafs must continue to find affordable talent to round out the top 9, allowing them to move on from contracts such as Jarnkrok's and Kampf's.

 

[Warden of the North]

I know it's small, but I'm happy Brazeau is gone from the Bruins. It always irritated me that he broke out there, of all places.

 

[Suntouchable13]

The right time should have never come. With the exception of the All Canadian division, this team shouldn't have pushed so many draft picks and prospects out the door every deadline.

If Marner and Tavares walk, I really want the organization to still have the snall amount of prospects they have. I'd much rather that, than no Marner and Tavares and playing our usual 7 playoff games this year.

This snowball effect started the minute Dubas was hired and there's no stopping it.

Pittsburgh are going through the same thing.

The window to win may very well have been pissed away (blowing that 3-1 series lead to MTL was inexcusable, and they still ran it back LOL).

 

[leafs in five]

Kampf and Domi for a 1st each

god if only

 

[Smif]

The prices are astonishing. Glad we didn't pay for Nelson.

Pivot: get either Donato or Geekie to fill the center hole, should be cheaper than Laughton. Trade for Carlo.

Knies - Matthew - Marner
McMann - Tavares - Nylander
Robertson - Geekie/Donato - Jarnkrok
Lorentz - Kampf - Holmberg

McCabe - Tanev
Rielly - Carlo
OEL - Myers.

If we can upgrade in bottom six for cheap, I would be open to that too. But not at expense of 3C or RHD.

That's the softest bottom 6 I've ever seen.

 

[ashs]

Please get rid of our dead weight (jarnkrok, kampf, dewar, timmins)

Trade Rielly, he is the biggest loser.

Domi is good in the playoffs, and keep Reeves to keep other teams honest.

 

[MapleLeafs77]

These prices are seriously insane. Just wait to get scraps. None of these players are worth the prices

 

[BraveCanadian]

Hard to go all in when your top playing is playing at 50% of his capability

Will be interesting to see what they can pull off

 

[Gary Nylund]

I just don't see a path to us winning more than 3 - 7 playoff games. I don't want to lose Minten/Cowan and more high picks just to help us get to the 2nd round.

Agreed. There is some chance of winning 8 games, really slim though. Maybe 5-8% or thereabouts, no more than that. Trading someone like Minten to bump the odds from 5-8% to say 8-12% doesn't seem prudent.

 

[Roo]

Part of me is hoping for a Laughton & Risto package. I think that rounds out the team a lot, but very tough to pull off given the prices and cap.