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Ziggdiezan said:
Ya I saw that, looks like he is trending towards being a 20/40 guy but until he actually does it (for at least 1 season) i wouldn't say he is nailed on to put up that production. Though likely he would have last year if not for covid so I get it is just semantic

Don't get me wrong, I like the player and think he would be a good add.
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Imo don't let milestones distract you, especially since we haven't had a full season in a long time.

20/40 is just shorthand for ppg.

If you prefer .25gpg/.50ppg that's fine.
 
123offtheglass said:
That's a really odd trade deadline deal... what does this do for Florida other than getting rid of Connolly's contract? Not exactly a playoff push move for them & Chicago takes a bad contract to get Borgstrom (23) + Stillman (23) but also lose Carlsson (23) in the process... did this really have to happen now rather than the offseason, it's not like Florida is cap crunched right now... especially once Ekblad is placed on LTIR
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It opens up cap space for the other trades that they'll be doing. Probably both a D and a F will be added still.
 
SprDaVE said:
This is a weird trade. Florida giving up Borgstrom is questionable.

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Not really. He was a fringe guy with potential. Stillman was the more valuable prospect. Although in general they didn't give up anything of immense value in that trade. Carlsson and Stillman have similar upside but Stillman is a year younger.

I feel like this is not a great use of Chicago's cap space, so they must value those prospects highly or think Connolly will be able to turn things around. Big body who would have had two 20+ goal seasons the past two years so they may think Connolly can be something.
 
BlueForever75 said:
Scratch all your goalies off your list, this isnt happening. Campbell and Hutch have proven to be adequate depth in the case Anderson cannot come back. But until now there is no indication that Anderson will not come back, so no point to waste assets on this position.

I like everyone on your forward list but Getzlaf. He is repetitive and not needed at C. We have enough C.
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If it costs like a 3rd rd. pick for some goalie insurance I'd take one. Both Campbell and Andersen have been banged up a lot of the season. I'd rather not see Andersen again this year the way he's played.

Ideally, Campbell is the #1 and there is some insurance behind him. He's not used to being a starter and if he goes, so does the season. It makes sense to spend a secondary asset for some insurance this season.
 
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123offtheglass said:
That's a really odd trade deadline deal... what does this do for Florida other than getting rid of Connolly's contract? Not exactly a playoff push move for them & Chicago takes a bad contract to get Borgstrom (23) + Stillman (23) but also lose Carlsson (23) in the process... did this really have to happen now rather than the offseason, it's not like Florida is cap crunched right now... especially once Ekblad is placed on LTIR
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Unloading Connolly for future seasons is a big plus for Florida. Borgstrom has struggled to transition to the NHL and they still got a decent piece back in Carlsson. I like it for Florida. Stillman is alright, but to unload that nasty Connolly contract for the future is good business.
 
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Fogelhund said:
It opens up cap space for the other trades that they'll be doing. Probably both a D and a F will be added still.
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Really don't think it was even necessary, they now have $4,115,910 cap space = $15,401,469 at this point of the season PLUS they can play Ekblad's 7.5m on LTIR once they're tight to the cap, that's potentially $22,901,469 to add without even waiving anyone...

I think Florida is going after Hall & Savard, and shit they could add more if they really wanted to, throw Getzlaf in there as well.

Maybe it's more to do with cash then cap though??? NHL Team Values 2020: Hockey’s First Decline In Two Decades

Edit: now that I think about it this is all about cash and nothing to do with cap, they had loads of that already.
 
123offtheglass said:
Really don't think it was even necessary, they now have $4,115,910 cap space = $15,401,469 at this point of the season PLUS they can play Ekblad's 7.5m on LTIR once they're tight to the cap, that's potentially $22,901,469 to add without even waiving anyone...

I think Florida is going after Hall & Savard, and shit they could add more if they really wanted to, throw Getzlaf in there as well.

Maybe it's more to do with cash then cap though??? NHL Team Values 2020: Hockey’s First Decline In Two Decades

Edit: now that I think about it this is all about cash and nothing to do with cap, they had loads of that already.
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Cash is the bigger issue for them. 7+ mill still owed to a guy who wasn't even playing in their top 12, although Connolly still has upside left so it did not cost them much to dump him.
 
Adding both Oleksiak & Laughton/Iafallo would take a lot of financial gymnastics, how would people feel about Laughton/Iafallo (@50%) + Del Zotto (@50%) as some d depth?
 
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I sure as hell hope not. And subject to change... like removing Sandin and Roberston from the deal.
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Ullmark and Hall look to be coming here unless Florida's cap dump trade was an aggressive move to get Hall.

Florida likely to move to Savard/Ekholm.

In the next 48 hours, Leafs are likely making a deal.
 
zeke said:
Imo don't let milestones distract you, especially since we haven't had a full season in a long time.

20/40 is just shorthand for ppg.

If you prefer .25gpg/.50ppg that's fine.
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I dont think the majority of people use paces when saying things like 'he is a 20/40 guy' especially if they have never hit it in their career. I understand what your saying though and agree he looks like he will put up those numbers sometime in the next few years
 
RealisticLeaf55 said:
Ullmark and Hall look to be coming here unless Florida's cap dump trade was an aggressive move to get Hall.

Florida likely to move to Savard/Ekholm.

In the next 48 hours, Leafs are likely making a deal.
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Ullmark and Hall in a package is the deal that makes the most sense. I could see the Palmieri/Zajac deal laying the ground work for what a potential deal might look like - 2021 1st + some B-level prospects/mid-round picks with Andersen used as salary going back an option.
 
Clearly fake...

Ullmark and Hall (both retained) could probably be had for something like a 2021 1st round pick, a 2023 3rd round pick, a B prospect and Freddy Anderson, in order for the money to work. I wouldn't pay any more than that.

For example...

To Toronto
Taylor Hall (50% retained)
Linus Ullmark (50% retained)

To Buffalo
2021 1st round pick
2022 3rd round pick
Joey Anderson or Filip Hallander
Freddy Anderson

Given that Hall is a pure rental and there is no guarantee that Ullmark could be resigned, that's probably to maximum I'd be willing to pay.
 
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I sure as hell hope not. And subject to change... like removing Sandin and Roberston from the deal.
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This better be fake news. That's a ridiculous overpayment. We don't even need Buffalo to take Andersen's contract, we could just LTIR him.

If that's Buffalo's asking price, Kyle should hang up the phone.
 
Clark4Ever said:
This better be fake news. That's a ridiculous overpayment. We don't even need Buffalo to take Andersen's contract, we could just LTIR.

If that's Buffalo's asking price, Kyle should hang up the phone.
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Not a chance in hell Kyle would pay that. If he did, he should be thrown out a high window... Or worse, traded to Buffalo as part of the package.

I can't believe I just suggested that a person be subjected to the latter of those two things.
 
Clark4Ever said:
This better be fake news. That's a ridiculous overpayment. We don't even need Buffalo to take Andersen's contract, we could just LTIR him.

If that's Buffalo's asking price, Kyle should hang up the phone.
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Judging by this guys tweets, he's a Sabre's fan.
 
Horrible deal for the Leafs. For 2 rentals we are giving up Sandin, Robertson and another prospect?

If Dubas makes that deal he should be fired immediately.
 
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