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I know this is probably in one of these 13 pages but is the deadline on Tuesday with the OA deadline on Monday? I think it is usually the 9th and 10th….
 
SCRATCHES:
#Gens: Kumpulainen (World Juniors, Finland), Torrance, Pylypuik, McDonell

#Greyhounds: Allard (World Juniors, Canada), Karki (World Juniors, Finland), McConnell-Barker (upper body), Clattenburg

notable scratch for Oshawa is Luke Torrance. Not sure if he is hurt or not but Oshawa will have to move an 04 off their roster this year or the next.
 
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leafs4life94 said:
Either him or Gavin White - I'd give the slight edge to White but that's just because I've seen more of him.
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Tough call. Jury still out on Julien. He still has the remainder of this year plus an OA year to show his true potential. Gavin White is definitely the clubhouse leader though…
 
OMG67 said:
Tough call. Jury still out on Julien. He still has the remainder of this year plus an OA year to show his true potential. Gavin White is definitely the clubhouse leader though…
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Gavin White wasn't even the best U18 pick on last year's Petes team. He became basically unplayable while Mayer played 30 minutes a game.
 
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Kingpin794 said:
Yes it was a good move. How they finished the season doesn't determine if it was a good idea or not. Sarnia finally had a chance to make a good title run. They gave it their best effort. Nothing is guaranteed but that doesn't mean you don't try.

Maybe Letang isn't the one to get them over the hump. Maybe it'll be the next guy.
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No, as a fan of the team acquiring Martone, and what a refresh for the franchise those deals with Sarnia were, I wouldn't want too see a top prospect like Martone dealt for a few months worth of their returns, plus Martone is a late birthday. If the roles were reversed I'd hate to see the same deal made, IMHO
 
Tarantula said:
No, as a fan of the team acquiring Martone, and what a refresh for the franchise those deals with Sarnia were, I wouldn't want too see a top prospect like Martone dealt for a few months worth of their returns, plus Martone is a late birthday. If the roles were reversed I'd hate to see the same deal made, IMHO
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Agree 100% - - that was a God-awful trade for Sarnia and an absolute steal for Mississauga.

1. Sarnia was just a fringe contender last year. They certainly were not a Memorial Cup threat with or without Del Mastro.

2. Del Mastro had already signed a pro contract so you knew there was little to no chance of him returning as an OA.

3. Martone was playing almost as well as Del Mastro as a 16yr old.

4. Based on his birthday, you’re getting at least two and a half seasons from Martone, possibly three and a half.

5. Martone has a very good chance to be a 1st round pick which means money for the franchise.
 
Donnie740 said:
Agree 100% - - that was a God-awful trade for Sarnia and an absolute steal for Mississauga.

1. Sarnia was just a fringe contender last year. They certainly were not a Memorial Cup threat with or without Del Mastro.

2. Del Mastro had already signed a pro contract so you knew there was little to no chance of him returning as an OA.

3. Martone was playing almost as well as Del Mastro as a 16yr old.

4. Based on his birthday, you’re getting at least two and a half seasons from Martone, possibly three and a half.

5. Martone has a very good chance to be a 1st round pick which means money for the franchise.
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1. Sarnia was not a fringe contender. The sting were without question dominant post deadline and a top contender.
 
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dirty12 said:
1. Sarnia was not a fringe contender. The sting were without question dominant post deadline and a top contender.
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I think the point being that that type of deal is typically reserved to put a team over the top, not keep them in the pack. Even though Sarnia was a true contender, I agree, they weren’t the hands down favourite in that Conference.

I would reserve deals like that to teams like Hamilton post-Covid who were the clear front-runner before acquiring MacT. I could see a team like that make that type of deal just to put the stamp on it to say they did everything they could.

With Sarnia last year, I think it was reckless. The Petes made a similar deal but it was for a two season player. That was far more responsible and savvy. It was much more justifiable to use a player that lofty. Additionally, was DelMaestro the best player available? You’d have to think a deal like that would need to be for the best player available. I think anyone would be hard pressed to consider DelMaestro the best player available.

Although, I agree that it makes it look much worse with how well Martone has performed this year vs JVV. But, regardless, the Petes deal was far less reckless than the Sarnia deal, regardless of the outcome. Sarnia needed to win the OHL Championship for that deal to be considered a good one. Anything less was unacceptable and warrants an owner to question the GM closely.
 
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OMG67 said:
I think the point being that that type of deal is typically reserved to put a team over the top, not keep them in the pack. Even though Sarnia was a true contender, I agree, they weren’t the hands down favourite in that Conference.

I would reserve deals like that to teams like Hamilton post-Covid who were the clear front-runner before acquiring MacT. I could see a team like that make that type of deal just to put the stamp on it to say they did everything they could.

With Sarnia last year, I think it was reckless. The Petes made a similar deal but it was for a two season player. That was far more responsible and savvy. It was much more justifiable to use a player that lofty.

Although, I agree that it makes it look much worse with how well Martone has performed this year vs JVV. But, regardless, the Petes deal was far less reckless than the Sarnia deal, regardless of the outcome. Sarnia needed to win the OHL Championship for that deal to be considered a good one. Anything less was unacceptable and warrants an owner to question the GM closely.
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That Sting team was pretty much over the top.
DelMastro & DelBelBelluz is the best two player package from a team that I can recall.
 
dirty12 said:
That Sting team was pretty much over the top.
DelMastro & DelBelBelluz is the best two player package from a team that I can recall.
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For that to be true, London pulled off a heavy upset and the Petes would have been beaten as well. I don’t think that is the case. I think there was a wide cross section of predictions of who comes out of the West last year.
 
Has anyone ever considered the hold up in the deal/announcement is to give Owen Beck a day or two to see family/billets/gather his belongings/ etc…. They did miss Christmas and all ..

And has 0 to do with teams bidding
 
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