Trade Deadline 2015 Part II

[YearlyLottery]

Why do the Rangers constantly give up first round picks? Duclair as probably their best prospect as well. Such an odd deal considering the reason they lost in the finals last year was not because they couldn't score but rather hold onto a lead.

Good for Rangers but I don't see the point of it for them. It plays to their strengths more than their weaknesses.

 

[Barz1]

Why do we need Yandle? Our players aren't the problem, it's the coaches. Plus we didn't have the assets.

Seriously, I won't lose sleep over not getting Yandle. Leddy is better, and we need a LW more than anything.

Because he would be a perfect fit on the pp--- he can move the puck--- and hickey and strait are awful

 

[SI90]

IMO the Rags made out like Bandits. This really sucks.

I really hope Garth at least upgrades over Strait.

 

[seafoam]

Great trade for the Rangers. Moore sucks, Duclair looks like a good prospect but no guarantees, and the #1 pick will be closer to a second round pick.

Agreed. That package isn't as lucrative as it looks, although Duclair was Domi's (AZ prospect) WJC linemate. They were money together an AZ has guys like Dvorak, Samuelsson, and Perlini in the pipleline plus a lottery pick and two 1sts on top of the that.

The Rangers are in win now mode, acquiring St. Louis has basically forced them to be. This is a good deal for them.

Looks like they are close to re-signing Zuccarello too. If they want any chance of re-signing Yandle, they need to call up Nonis or find a way to make Girardi's contract go poof.

I'm kind of upset about this deal, because I'm basically forced to hate Yandle now and it makes the Rangers stronger now. I'm a massuve Yandle fan.

 

[SLAPSHOT723]

Leddy is better defensively. I think fans here have spoken about wishing we could get Yandle, and now all of a sudden he goes to the Rangers and he's no big deal ? Great move by the Rangers.

I've been saying we don't need Yandle for months.

I still don't see the point for the Rangers. They've been great without Lundqvist and should only get better, they gave up their top prospect and a 1st round pick, and their biggest need is a RW or a real #1 center.

 

[SI90]

Rags have absolutely stacked D if it's Moore and not Girardi going, they are looking real legit. A grim future perhaps but worth it if you get the cup.

There D is unreal. McD Staal Yandle Klien Girardi lol. Crazy

 

[SLAPSHOT723]

Because he would be a perfect fit on the pp--- he can move the puck--- and hickey and strait are awful

You want to give up Hickey, Ho-Sang (maybe even Pulock), and our 2016 1st (equivalent of NYR value) for a guy who will take over the 3rd pairing? No thanks, rather spent cheaper assets to get someone who fits there better.

 

[Satan'sIsland81]

This may not be a good move beyond the next year for the Rags, but as for this year, we are ****ed. There's no way around it and all of you know it. They gave up nobody of significance off their roster and brought in one of the best offensive defenseman in the league. Again, this shows a team going for it all and trying to win a cup. This is what cup contenders do. A team two points behind us in the standings going for it all while we stand pat...oh and a sidenote, how the **** DO THE COYOTES pick up 50 freaking percent of his salary. The league should look into this as collusion. That is ridiculous

 

[Barz1]

You want to give up Hickey, Ho-Sang (maybe even Pulock), and our 2016 1st (equivalent of NYR value) for a guy who will take over the 3rd pairing? No thanks, rather spent cheaper assets to get someone who fits there better.

Where did I say anything about giving up Ho-Sang (which btw, I would have) - as far as Hickey, he is terrible---- and will look even worse in the playoffs against bigger and better teams. The rangers are a much better team right now than they were this morning

 

[Tavares2TheRescue]

Not exactly a terrible trade for the Rangers but the difference between Yandle and Moore is smaller than people would think and it certainly isn't a 1st and a top prospect. Yandle is a good player, but he's pretty horrendous at keeping shots away from his own net. Meanwhile Moore has been pretty underratedly solid. This still doesn't make the Rangers better than us and if they want to start mortgaging their future to not even get through the East, then I'll let them do that.

 

[dlawong]

Because he would be a perfect fit on the pp--- he can move the puck--- and hickey and strait are awful

Rags are sacrificing their future for winning the Cup now because Nash and St. Louis are getting older and their window to win the SC, unlike the Isles is a smaller one. Duclair will be one of the top scorers in NHL in about 3 years, especially if he get to play with Domi and one of McDavid or Eichel. That actually will be a sick line if Arizona land McDavid this year because McDavid is better than Sam Reinhart and you saw what Domi and Duclair did in the WJC. I think this is an incredible move for Arizona as this will help them tank below Edmonton and a better chance to land a top 3 prospects. Hanifan is incredibly talented too and he could replace Yandle down the road or maybe even better, even if they not land one of the top 2 picks.

Losing the 2016 1st round may bite Rangers down the road because there are some real good players in that round as well. Rags will likely not being able to resign Yandle because he is a Boston boy and Bruins will do anything to sign him next summer especially if the Ranger is lucky enough to win the SC this year and the value of Yandle goes up. Rangers will not have cap room to resign him next season unless his value goes down should he has a bad year or fail to help them this season in the post season. Boston will trade one of their top 6 to clear cap space for him.

Isles are in for building a dynasty (hopefully in two years) while the Rangers are in for only maybe one of two years of SC. Clearly they are doing this for the sake of Nash, St. Louis and the King. These 3 will past their prime in a couple of years and there is no one in their line-up or pipe line can replace these players once their play start to decline.

The only team I was surprise to not go all out and do what Rangers do is SJ because they are similar to the Rangers that they have good players who are aging and they can still win the cup if they are willing to go all in and upgrade their team for the present.

Think this trade may force other contenders to do another big deal to upgrade their cup run. Pretty sure Nashville, Blues, Ducks and Hawks are still not done yet with their trade and Pens and Habs will do something as well. Petry will soon be in play.

 

[NewYorkIsles]

@TheFourthPeriod

Coyotes also get a 2nd round pick in this year's draft, while Rangers get a 4th round pick. Now this was a trade.

Wow Rangers overpaid so much for Yandle. I think the Yotes won this trade.

 

[Islesfan22]

Great trade for the rangers. They needed a top 4 d-MAN AND he is really good offensively. This trade makes them the team to beat in the east

 

[CodeE]

Ugh, the Yotes always seem to trade with the Rags.

I don't think this forces us to make a move but the Rangers upgraded, the Penguins upgraded, and the Capitals upgraded. I'm pretty squeamish that all our Metro division rivals have gotten better and we seem very comfortable not testing the market.

 

[IslesRock4]

Great trade for the rangers. They needed a top 4 d-MAN AND he is really good offensively. This trade makes them the team to beat in the east

They were one of the few teams who truly had 4 solid top 4 D. Now they have 5.

 

[Shot of Bailey]

If Garth sits tight, it's a mistake. they are close and the players know it. If we see issues as fans, than there is a good chance they see it as players but professional enough to not say a word. If snow sits idol, I think it's sends the wrong message. I know, it sounds crazy, so let me give you an example. Toronto blue jays in striking distance of wild card, know that there were holes, didn't make a move and than got criticism from their top players and the result.....they faded away. Not saying this is our fate, but I think we need to do something.

 

[BMOK33]

Great trade for the rangers. They needed a top 4 d-MAN AND he is really good offensively. This trade makes them the team to beat in the east

They already were, maybe Montreal more so but it was close. Yandle is a train wreck defensively though, I think this may make them a worse defensive team than before but better offensively, I don't want to face them now due to our crap PK

 

[Renbarg]

This deadline is crazy. With these prices I hope the isles hold tight. Honestly not anyone I really want who is out there anyway.

 

[YearlyLottery]

Snow needs to stay the course. No stupid trades today and tomorrow.

 

[Isles Chick 89]

Great trade for the rangers. They needed a top 4 d-MAN AND he is really good offensively. This trade makes them the team to beat in the east

This. As an isles fan this makes me cringe to say this but they definitely secured their spot as favorites to come out of the east. Hope garth doesn't stand pat tomorrow as other teams in the division are looking to get better come the deadline but past history indicates he will probably not make a tinker.

I'm not saying he should go after someone on high demand but someone to possibly replace strait will really be a huge imrpovement

Strait, Viz and Hickey to a point are huge concerns for me.

But if they do not win this year they definitely will rip sather a new one for the picks and duclair he gave up in return.

It will be interesting to see how this team adjusts this week on the roadtrip

 

[seafoam]

Ugh, the Yotes always seem to trade with the Rags.

I don't think this forces us to make a move but the Rangers upgraded, the Penguins upgraded, and the Capitals upgraded. I'm pretty squeamish that all our Metro division rivals have gotten better and we seem very comfortable not testing the market.

It doesn't.

Their Cup window is dwindling very quickly while ours is just starting. Let Sather continue to operate on a now basis, because he knows he has to.

 

[MJF]

Again, all I think the Isles need is a depth defenseman to push Lubo and Hickey down the depth chart and get Strait back into the press box, a backup goalie if possible and get Cizikas, KO and Grabo healthy.

 

[Barz1]

Again, all I think the Isles need is a depth defenseman to push Lubo and Hickey down the depth chart and get Strait back into the press box, a backup goalie if possible and get Cizikas, KO and Grabo healthy.[/QUOTE

This !

 

[SLAPSHOT723]

Where did I say anything about giving up Ho-Sang (which btw, I would have) - as far as Hickey, he is terrible---- and will look even worse in the playoffs against bigger and better teams. The rangers are a much better team right now than they were this morning

I never said you said we were giving up Ho-Sang, who I wouldn't give up. Also, Ho-Sang is the closest equivalent we have to Duclair, that's why I used him in this example.

Would we have been a better team now? Sure, but our future would be looking poor and we have a very large window to at least be competitive for a long time. Bringing in Yandle for that package would have made closed that window a lot sooner.

Plus, like I keep saying, he's not the guy we need. We need a tough, goal scoring forward, a tough bottom pairing defenseman, and a better backup goaltender.

Not exactly a terrible trade for the Rangers but the difference between Yandle and Moore is smaller than people would think and it certainly isn't a 1st and a top prospect. Yandle is a good player, but he's pretty horrendous at keeping shots away from his own net. Meanwhile Moore has been pretty underratedly solid. This still doesn't make the Rangers better than us and if they want to start mortgaging their future to not even get through the East, then I'll let them do that.

So much this. Moore isn't that bad, I actually think he's a pretty good bottom pairing defenseman (give him top-4 minutes and you're ****ed, but that's not the point). And agreed, Yandle is pretty awful defensively. He gets a lot of sheltered minutes at ES but he's one of the best PPQBs in the NHL.

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EDIT: Anyway, Snow is not going to mortgage a future that he constructed with every fine detail to make a splash at the deadline that may or may not help. The only thing worth doing in the offseason is re-signing Boychuk and firing Capuano.

 

[JohnTonelliRises]

Rags gave up alot to get Yandle.