GDT: Trade and Free agent rumours thread | Post Trade Deadline Edition

[ULF_55]

We're talking about a second pairing defenseman. Why would him not making the playoffs in his best season have any impact on the type of player he is?

Perhaps a Stajan scenario?

Stajan played over 18 minutes a game a couple seasons in Toronto.
Calgary fans thought he was going to be their 1st. line center when Leafs got Phaneuf.

 

[DragoGrizzly]

I wonder if Chayka will have interest in Bjorkstrand.

If we’re looking to build a potential matchup or shutdown 3rd line, he’s a free wallet that seems to be solid defensively, can produce offensively and is a right shot.

What are people’s thoughts on him?

I was kind of jealous when the Lightning traded for him, but he never really produced like he should have on that team. Maybe worth a shot as I don’t think he’d be TOO expensive.

 

[TheKrebsCycle]

I was kind of jealous when the Lightning traded for him, but he never really produced like he should have on that team. Maybe worth a shot as I don’t think he’d be TOO expensive.

Very vanilla player . I’d pass

 

[Menzinger]

Sean Durzi at 6mil seems crazy to me

Hes a #5 Dman. He needs to be heavily sheltered 5v5.

Much rather just get Raddysh, who is just way better in every way to Durzi for a couple mil more. And no I don't want Durzi on the 3rd pairing eating up 6mil

If they got Durzi it would be for the top four. He's career average is over a 20 min a night too

They're going to have to take a couple gambles this off-season which means reclamation projects,. especially if the team doesn't want to trade Cowan/Danford ect. Most options will have some sort of question marks about psrre of their game

..I'm fine going after Raddysh too, but they're going to need st minimum two new D men for the top 4 plus maybe a third for the bottom pairing. Lots of new opportunities for new guys

 

[Menzinger]

Can't we get some mid round picks for Robertson, Maccelli? Not sure I see a place on the team for at least 1 of these 2 and possibly both.

Both probably need to go. Maccelli might not get qualified if he's not traded.

I'm hoping maybe a 3rd for Robertson or flip him in a hockey trade for another player. Maccelli i think has more potential but his qualifying offer is just too high for what hes shown so far. He had better value when Utah traded him here, maybe we'll get a conditional pick for his rights like a 4th or 5th

 

[Apotheosis]

I am still coping that McDavid signs here when his contract is up.

 

[Kiwi]

Both probably need to go. Maccelli might not get qualified if he's not traded.

I'm hoping maybe a 3rd for Robertson or flip him in a hockey trade for another player. Maccelli i think has more potential but his qualifying offer is just too high for what hes shown so far. He had better value when Utah traded him here, maybe we'll get a conditional pick for his rights like a 4th or 5th

I wonder if we could do a Robertson for Moore trade with LA? They get younger and cheaper and we get a guy who could play in our middle 6 who's defensively responsible?

We may need to chuck in a meh pick or prospect but it would help the teambuild

 

[LeafChief]

I wonder if we could do a Robertson for Moore trade with LA? They get younger and cheaper and we get a guy who could play in our middle 6 who's defensively responsible?

We may need to chuck in a meh pick or prospect but it would help the teambuild

I'd be all over this which makes me think LA wouldn't.

 

[Brobust]

I wonder if we could do a Robertson for Moore trade with LA? They get younger and cheaper and we get a guy who could play in our middle 6 who's defensively responsible?

We may need to chuck in a meh pick or prospect but it would help the teambuild

I'd be all over this which makes me think LA wouldn't.

Don't think this is a good deal. I think they can get Robertson extended for less than Moore's salary, and I think Robertson is a better player. Moore's a 31 year old at the end of his peak.

 

[Kiwi]

Don't think this is a good deal. I think they can get Robertson extended for less than Moore's salary, and I think Robertson is a better player. Moore's a 31 year old at the end of his peak.

Robertson doesn't want to be here and hes not one tenth the player Moore is defensively

 

[Buds17]

We're talking about a second pairing defenseman. Why would him not making the playoffs in his best season have any impact on the type of player he is?

The earlier post discussing Durzi never having played like a #2 on a team with Cup aspirations. Put aside that it's just one player on a team/blueline and the conclusion could be that the team's blueline wasn't of a contending calibre.

 

[Taylor Halls Teeth]

I wonder if we could do a Robertson for Moore trade with LA? They get younger and cheaper and we get a guy who could play in our middle 6 who's defensively responsible?

We may need to chuck in a meh pick or prospect but it would help the teambuild

Value is fair to me but two of LAs most skilled forwards are LW and they don't have the center depth to support those guys never mind a 3rd. Its always possible Holland does it to shake things up but if they move Maccelli there are clubs much weaker in wingers that would seem like a better fit.

 

[OVO16]

Colorado fans are saying they would do Simon Benoit + 3rd rd pick for Ross Colton.

I don't know about yall but I would that easily

 

[Stephen]

I wonder if we could do a Robertson for Moore trade with LA? They get younger and cheaper and we get a guy who could play in our middle 6 who's defensively responsible?

We may need to chuck in a meh pick or prospect but it would help the teambuild

Trevor Moore is 31 and declining offensively, so you might be getting someone who is trending towards the third line and not a middle six.

 

[Kiwi]

Trevor Moore is 31 and declining offensively, so you might be getting someone who is trending towards the third line and not a middle six.

I was thinking 3rd line but set it up to be a shutdown defensively orientated line so the top 6 can be deployed offensively

 

[cyris]

Trevor Moore is 31 and declining offensively, so you might be getting someone who is trending towards the third line and not a middle six.

Yeah Moore is okay. I wouldn’t be overly excited about trading for him but I’m really not high on Robertson so I’d probably do it.
I’d probably rather trade Robertson for a pick and do other things but in the end I wouldn’t hate it.

 

[Fogelhund]

I was kind of jealous when the Lightning traded for him, but he never really produced like he should have on that team. Maybe worth a shot as I don’t think he’d be TOO expensive.

TOI. He played 17 minutes a night for Columbus, and then 13 minutes last year for Tampa.

 

[TMLAM34]

We’ve all linked Rielly to San Jose, but I wonder if Chicago is a team that would actually have interest as well.

When looking at both rosters, Chicago seems like a better fit. Chicago can run Vlasic - Rielly - Kaiser down the left side. Levshunov - Crevier - Rinzel down the right side.

Rielly can take some of that offensive pressure off of Levshunov until he reaches his potential.

Rumours have it that Greene might be the odd man out in Chicago, who happens to be a right handed two-way center. He can slide into that 3C role for us.

I wonder if something like Rielly for Greene + Korchinski could work.

I would look at reducing Tanev’s ice time and usage so he can remain healthy and up the tempo in the playoffs (if we make it), I would run a third pair with Korchinski - Tanev giving Korchinski that stay at home defender he needs.

 

[aingefan]

Lol too everything you posted. Tolvanen is fine, I'm not against the guy. But these are crazy takes, he played borderline 2nd line minutes and produced like a 3rd liner. He is almost exactly the same size as robertson and maccelli.
Point production wasn't as good as maccelli or robertson per 60 mins.
His only pro is hits and pk, but Seattle had the worst pk in the nhl, so is it actually a pro? Idk.
In a vacuum tolvanen could be fine, but we are talking leafs, and they already have players under contract, so they need to build around those guys not build In vacuum.
He is not skilled enough to play a Hyman style, because hymans best skills are his strength and smarts, not one post has pointed towards him being strong or smart.

I think you’re talking just to hear yourself talk. There’s nothing crazy about my take. You asked ‘why Tolvanen’. I answered.
But since you now want to adjust the topic and compare him to Maccelli and Robertson, that’s fine.
What he’s better at than both Maccelli and Robertson is playing the other side of the puck, being physical and playing RW, though he’s a left shot. 76th percentile defensive impact (hockeystatcards) 96th highest hits per 60 for forwards who played more than 20 games (nhl.com).
The Leafs had a lot of offense first, non-physical, defensively inattentive forwards last year. Are thin at RW. He ticks those boxes.
To your point about players under contract: neither Robertson or Maccelli are. The team has control but neither are under contract yet.
The comment about filling a Hyman role:
Hyman for the majority of his time in Toronto was the hardworking worker bee on offensive lines whose offense developed later. Tolvanen’s skill set is similar to what Hyman’s was at the time.

 

[Stephen]

Yeah Moore is okay. I wouldn’t be overly excited about trading for him but I’m really not high on Robertson so I’d probably do it.
I’d probably rather trade Robertson for a pick and do other things but in the end I wouldn’t hate it.

I think this regime would have to go out and find a 25 year old Moore. These player types may not have a long shelf life so by the time you acquire them they’re probably declining at a quick rate.

 

[GordieHoweHatTrick]

Kypreos has been "early" on more things that Friedman over the past 2 years. Friedman might break the most news but usually that just means he tweets out a transaction 5 minutes before the team does.

That’s because Kyper’s threshold for reporting rumours is far lower than Fried’s, who has a reputation to protect as an insider. The way I see it, Kyper is a fan with connections, but his insider ‘perspective’ is probably more valuable than his insider ‘information’.

Anyway, here’s a few props for giggles;

Rielly to Anaheim for Vatrano and a prospect
A goalie and Carlo to Edmonton for Podkolzin and picks

Leafs move out two change-of-scenery candidates and a goalie for two middle-6 forwards that play an aggressive, physical game fit for the playoffs and some more draft capital

 

[ToneDog]

Is Nurse that much worse than Rielly that Leafs would not be interested in a Rielly for Nurse plus trade ? One thing Nurse brings is snarl. Maybe a change of scenery will benefit both and bring that snarl out of Nurse? It worked with Miller who I heard did not like playing in Manhattan.

 

[nuck]

Is Nurse that much worse than Rielly that Leafs would not be interested in a Rielly for Nurse plus trade ? One thing Nurse brings is snarl. Maybe a change of scenery will benefit both and bring that snarl out of Nurse? It worked with Miller who I heard did not like playing in Manhattan.

He really has to be better than Rielly off the hop. The Leafs can't gamble on a 9.25M x 4 player to maybe improve with a change of scenery, they are on the clock to be good this season. A player needs to earn a deal like that because of what it takes away from the rest of your club's budget and DK hasn't and has put himself under a magnifying glass because of it. One in three chance he is some version of expensive but okay, one in three he is better because of those tools, and then there is the chance we haven't even seen what bad Darnell looks like. A club that wants the physicality and has a well set up D with a hole to fill works but the Leafs are more in the triage stage this summer.

 

[SprDaVE]

 

[Stephen]

What does that even mean?