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Sean Durzi at 6mil seems crazy to me

Hes a #5 Dman. He needs to be heavily sheltered 5v5.

Much rather just get Raddysh, who is just way better in every way to Durzi for a couple mil more. And no I don't want Durzi on the 3rd pairing eating up 6mil
I’d trade for Durzi (for cheap) if we can’t land one of the RHD FA. Otherwise I agree, I’d pass. He’s a #5 who can play PP.
 
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Sure... but not in the same frequency IMO... the point being, just because one of these guys throw out a name... doesn't mean any team is actually thinking about it. Kypreos does it far more, at least that's my observation.
I think it’s easier to tell when Friedman is speculating if you are paying attention there is a clear difference.
With Kyper both kinda sound the same to me
 
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Durzi is pretty close to a cap dump himself, awful playoff stats and a very sheltered.

Woll-Hayton is a tandem goalie for a 3C, again fairly even for a trade.

I don't mind dropping Durzi-Joshua in the swap and going for DeAngelo or Blankenburg in UFA instead.

Rationale for the 1st round pick this year is starting to develop talent a year sooner.
Also they dont need him.

Sergachev Weegar
Schmidt Marino
Simashev Lamoureux
Cole
 
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Sean Durzi at 6mil seems crazy to me

Hes a #5 Dman. He needs to be heavily sheltered 5v5.

Much rather just get Raddysh, who is just way better in every way to Durzi for a couple mil more. And no I don't want Durzi on the 3rd pairing eating up 6mil

I'd prefer to have at least a couple of offensive D in the line up but the trade can be scaled back as a basic Woll-Hayton type swap too.

DeAngelo and Blankenburg are solid 3rd pairing options.

Also they dont need him.

Sergachev Weegar
Schmidt Marino
Simashev Lamoureux
Cole

Yea, even Hayton isn't necessarily needed by Utah anymore either, McBain can go into the middle for a year unless Desnoyers surprises and makes the team out of camp.
 
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They are both Speculators.. I wouldn't call anyone an insider nowadays. As an NHL agent once said to me, "We only tell people something if we want that out," so they are just mouthpieces from agents, and the 75% rest of it is speculation
They also get info from teams but it’s mostly the same thing. The teams are giving out that information when they want it out.
But that is the nature of the business. The “insiders” build contacts with agents and teams and they broadcast the information those contacts want released
 
I would say Chicago should be getting themselves into a position to start there ascent back up the standings next year and would want a SJ type of season they have a full cupboard of prospects with some untouchables Bedard, Frondell, Levshunov, Nazar + 4th overall. they're at a point where they can move a prospect / pick or two for more NHL proven talent.
 
I think some of their fans and Philly blogs are hoping Larkin expands his list, but Philly doesn't really fit the profile of a team he'd waive for. I just don't think that will happen.

I think there's been discussion TSN/Sportsnet/... that you follow the US 4 Nations and Olympic teams to find the linkage.


Maybe he gets to Florida before Brady does?

Winnipeg Jets could make a killing deal with the Panthers.

Connor and Hellebuyck
for
All their young player, picks and prospects.
And someone with a NMC would have to agree.
 
I'd prefer to have at least a couple of offensive D in the line up but the trade can be scaled back as a basic Woll-Hayton type swap too.

DeAngelo and Blankenburg are solid 3rd pairing options.



Yea, even Hayton isn't necessarily needed by Utah anymore either, McBain can go into the middle for a year unless Desnoyers surprises and makes the team out of camp.
A Knies to Utah deal would also make a lot of sense for both teams. A potential blockbuster.

Hayton (RFA)
Durzi ($6,000,000)
Two of (Iginla/Desnoyers/Beaudoin)

Woll ($3,666,667)
Knies ($7,750,000)
Joshua ($3,250,000 - cap dump)
 
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Durzi is pretty close to a cap dump himself, awful playoff stats and a very sheltered.

Woll-Hayton is a tandem goalie for a 3C, again fairly even for a trade.

I don't mind dropping Durzi-Joshua in the swap and going for DeAngelo or Blankenburg in UFA instead.

Rationale for the 1st round pick this year is starting to develop talent a year sooner.

I'd like to stay very far away from DeAngelo, whos a legendary POS and not what the Cowans and McKennas need in the dressing room. Blankenburg, sure as a low cost FA, and I'd add giving Thrun another shot too if we're on the subject, among other moves.
 
A Knies to Utah deal would also make a lot of sense for both teams. A potential blockbuster.

Hayton (RFA)
Durzi ($6,000,000)
Two of (Iginla/Desnoyers/Beaudoin)

Woll ($3,666,667)
Knies ($7,750,000)
Joshua ($3,250,000 - cap dump)
Any Knies to Utah deal, I would definitely want Iginla apart of.

So it becomes Iginla + Hayton + Durzi + one of Desnoyers or Beaudoin.

I would be leaning towards Desnoyers. I think he has the higher offensive potential and we’ve had a more shoot first mentality down the middle for years now that it would be a nice change to get someone known for playmaking.

But overall I like the framework of that proposal, good work.
 
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Any Knies to Utah deal, I would definitely want Iginla apart of.

So it becomes Iginla + Hayton + Durzi + one of Desnoyers or Beaudoin.

I would be leaning towards Desnoyers. I think he has the higher offensive potential and we’ve had a more shoot first mentality down the middle for years now that it would be a nice change to get someone known for playmaking.

But overall I like the framework of that proposal, good work.
Gives the leafs two or three young centers to build around. Plan B once Matthews bails.
 
A Knies to Utah deal would also make a lot of sense for both teams. A potential blockbuster.

Hayton (RFA)
Durzi ($6,000,000)
Two of (Iginla/Desnoyers/Beaudoin)

Woll ($3,666,667)
Knies ($7,750,000)
Joshua ($3,250,000 - cap dump)

I wouldn't be able to it, the known quantities aren't good enough and the prospects are a dice roll. Not under the gun like with a potential Matthews wanting out.

I'd like to stay very far away from DeAngelo, whos a legendary POS and not what the Cowans and McKennas need in the dressing room. Blankenburg, sure as a low cost FA, and I'd add giving Thrun another shot too if we're on the subject, among other moves.

Anytime you have a player like that, you only go 1 year at a time. It's the same thing with Evander Kane...if you're going to do that stuff, do it for 1 year at a time, don't let them get comfortable.

Lou Lam added DeAngelo so maybe he's matured.
 
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They seem stuck in the shadow of the other recent expansion team. They have some good young players but missing that extra aggressive move or two to add top players. They need to remove a lot of that average bloat they have and just go full youth, but they also need a top level player to compliment them.
Removing Stephenson would go such a long way into having more productive significant minutes for them. Of the 118 forwards that played 1000 minutes at 5v5 last season, Stephenson ranked dead last in rel.xG. The difference between him and 117th was the same as the difference between 117 and 70. What's even funnier is that of the 144 forwards to play 1000 mins in the 24-25 season he ranked dead last again. Nobody in the league gets annihilated as badly as him, and they just give all Shane Wright's minutes to him.
 
Sean Durzi at 6mil seems crazy to me

Hes a #5 Dman. He needs to be heavily sheltered 5v5.

Much rather just get Raddysh, who is just way better in every way to Durzi for a couple mil more. And no I don't want Durzi on the 3rd pairing eating up 6mil
We talked about it a few days ago, but its a matter of what Durzi youre getting. The 2023-24 version before the major injury is a #3, maybe a #2 beside a strong defensive partner. The post injury version has been a sheltered #5. If you think you can get the 2023-24 version back you're finding free money.
 
We talked about it a few days ago, but its a matter of what Durzi youre getting. The 2023-24 version before the major injury is a #3, maybe a #2 beside a strong defensive partner. The post injury version has been a sheltered #5. If you think you can get the 2023-24 version back you're finding free money.
There is no version of Durzi that ever played like a #2 on a team with cup aspirations.
 
Good size
Decent production rates on a low scoring team
Skilled enough to play a Hyman type role
Plays RW
Hits a lot
Good defensive metrics
Skates well, forechecks, handles himself.

Kind of classic third liner but also the kinda guy who might be able to keep up and do the dirty work on one of the top two lines.

Is an upside play - shouldn’t command top dollar but could be deployed to generate some surplus value.
Lol too everything you posted. Tolvanen is fine, I'm not against the guy. But these are crazy takes, he played borderline 2nd line minutes and produced like a 3rd liner. He is almost exactly the same size as robertson and maccelli.
Point production wasn't as good as maccelli or robertson per 60 mins.
His only pro is hits and pk, but Seattle had the worst pk in the nhl, so is it actually a pro? Idk.
In a vacuum tolvanen could be fine, but we are talking leafs, and they already have players under contract, so they need to build around those guys not build In vacuum.
He is not skilled enough to play a Hyman style, because hymans best skills are his strength and smarts, not one post has pointed towards him being strong or smart.
 
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I wouldn't be able to it, the known quantities aren't good enough and the prospects are a dice roll. Not under the gun like with a potential Matthews wanting out.



Anytime you have a player like that, you only go 1 year at a time. It's the same thing with Evander Kane...if you're going to do that stuff, do it for 1 year at a time, don't let them get comfortable.

Lou Lam added DeAngelo so maybe he's matured.
Also no one ever expands on their criticisms of deangelo. He gave a sarcastic comment to the goalie that cost the game, the goalie then punched him. His ohl suspension was never made public what he said, but many fans are first order thinkers and said he is a homophobic racist because they can't think for themselves. All of his team mates say he is a great guy, out side of shesterkin and his buddy panarin, both of which are biased in the scenario
 
There is no version of Durzi that ever played like a #2 on a team with cup aspirations.
In his first year with the Coyotes he was second on the team in 5v5 ice-time, kept his head above water defensively, and was good at creating offense while scoring 41 points. To me thats a guy who can anchor a second pairing or be the 2nd best player on a first.

On the other hand his last season and change has been a less extreme Rielly. Good, not great offensively, bad, but not terrible defensively. Excellent in transition.
 
In his first year with the Coyotes he was second on the team in 5v5 ice-time, kept his head above water defensively, and was good at creating offense while scoring 41 points. To me thats a guy who can anchor a second pairing or be the 2nd best player on a first.

On the other hand his last season and change has been a less extreme Rielly. Good, not great offensively, bad, but not terrible defensively. Excellent in transition.
His best season to date (of a 2nd pairing quality, whether that was a 3 or 4). Team did miss the playoffs though.
 
I wonder if Chayka will have interest in Bjorkstrand.

If we’re looking to build a potential matchup or shutdown 3rd line, he’s a free wallet that seems to be solid defensively, can produce offensively and is a right shot.

What are people’s thoughts on him?
 
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His best season to date (of a 2nd pairing quality, whether that was a 3 or 4). Team did miss the playoffs though.
We're talking about a second pairing defenseman. Why would him not making the playoffs in his best season have any impact on the type of player he is?
 
We're talking about a second pairing defenseman. Why would him not making the playoffs in his best season have any impact on the type of player he is?
I’d have to check but I think he was playing top four because the team and blueline was weak overall.
 
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