GDT: Trade and Free agent rumours thread | Post Trade Deadline Edition

[BurnTheBoats]

These Knies proposals make me sick, I would rather have Knies & whoever we get back from Matthews than an aging AM + Larkin.

Knies will be 10x the player Larkin is when he's 30.

D.Larkins plus minus is -100
Also his contact goes until he's 37, ooouf.

 

[hamzarocks]

Did you forget Vaakanainen exists? Robertson was their 2LD, Vaakanainen was their 3LD.

Their need isn't an offensive LD.

They are also likely moving Trochek, not Miller.

Vaakanainen exists how Stecher or Myers exist, its due to the team sucking/lacking quality options

Rielly would be a clear cut quality upgrade on any Rangers dman outside of Fox and Gavrikov.

Rielly for trochek wouldnt happen, but Miller could be possible if the Rangers want to retool.

Miller for Rielly is a typical retool dela where you trade 1 highly paid former star for another and hope you cone out on top with bounce back of the piece you acquire.

If the Rangers are rebuilding then that deal wont make sense

 

[Rielly4]

I really could see a Knies+ for Fox trade happening this summer otherwise I think we keep Knies.


Unless were acquiring a surefire #1 D whos not that old, Knies isnt getting moved.

 

[WTFMAN99]

I really could see a Knies+ for Fox trade happening this summer otherwise I think we keep Knies.

I don't see that at all.

Fox orchestrated getting to NYR by not signing in Calgary or Carolina and has a full NMC.

NYR's winger depth is on LW with Lafreniere and Cuylle.

 

[Sypher04]

Looks like rumours and trade activity is heating up. Crazy all the stuff getting out right now.

Oh? Like what?

 

[hockeywiz542]

 

[SprDaVE]

Oh? Like what?

A lot of them are in here. I also saw apparently Treliving was talking to Edmonton for a Nurse+ for Roy, maybe even included Rielly.

 

[Malachi Crunch]

For me, the easiest "change of scenery" trade for Larkin is:

Larkin for Barzal

Both low end 1Cs, high end 2Cs.

Larkin scores more goals, Barzal gets more assists. Points kind of even out.

Their contracts are eerily similar (year 4 of 8 and both at or near 9 million caphit).

Larkin wants out and Barzal is rumoured to be on the block.

Both have been on their team for 10 to 11 years.

I guess the question is whether Larkin thinks the Islanders are close to being real contenders and whether Barzal does not have Detroit on his no-trade list.

 

[Fogelhund]

Vaakanainen exists how Stecher or Myers exist, its due to the team sucking/lacking quality options

Rielly would be a clear cut quality upgrade on any Rangers dman outside of Fox and Gavrikov.

Rielly for trochek wouldnt happen, but Miller could be possible if the Rangers want to retool.

Miller for Rielly is a typical retool dela where you trade 1 highly paid former star for another and hope you cone out on top with bounce back of the piece you acquire.

If the Rangers are rebuilding then that deal wont make sense

Let me repeat... an offensive LHD, that needs defensive sheltering, isn't what NYR NEED on their second pair. Borgen starts 55% of the time in the dzone... would you acquire Rielly to start him in the dzone more often than not? Is Rielly a good answer to be starting more time in the dzone?

Fox Gavrikov get the offensive starts most of the time... the other pairings are more defensive in nature.

I didn't say Rielly for Trochek would happen... I said they will move Trochek, and not Miller. Miller isn't being moved, least of all for a player that would be a really bad fit for their needs.

They'd want a McCabe... or better yet, they'd sign Ferraro to fill their need... a more defensive orientated LHD.

 

[Fogelhund]

A lot of them are in here. I also saw apparently Treliving was talking to Edmonton for a Nurse+ for Roy, maybe even included Rielly.

Almost happened... truth, someone called, made an offer, it was rejected... or it's completely made up... these guys this offseason... and Pagnotta... it's like go to AI random trade generator, write me an article.... uggg!!!

 

[Malachi Crunch]

(if this is true) I honestly believe that the hockey gods intervened to stop that trade from happening. Devine intervention.

It's awful. I was looking at the prospects who aren't Hage, Reinbacher or Zharovsky and it's basically Engstrom or Beck. Beck is trending towards a 4C and Engstrom is "just okay".

I mean, Kapanen and Zharovsky and picks would be a bit better, but Kapanen isn't really a prospect.

 

[Punch Drunk Loov]

I think some hack writers need revenue so they make up something interesting

 

[hamzarocks]

(if this is true) I honestly believe that the hockey gods intervened to stop that trade from happening. Devine intervention.

It's awful. I was looking at the prospects who aren't Hage, Reinbacher or Zharovsky and it's basically Engstrom or Beck. Beck is trending towards a 4C and Engstrom is "just okay".

I mean, Kapanen and Zharovsky and picks would be a bit better, but Kapanen isn't really a prospect.

Must of been Pickford as the second prospect

 

[budzz]

(if this is true) I honestly believe that the hockey gods intervened to stop that trade from happening. Devine intervention.

It's awful. I was looking at the prospects who aren't Hage, Reinbacher or Zharovsky and it's basically Engstrom or Beck. Beck is trending towards a 4C and Engstrom is "just okay".

I mean, Kapanen and Zharovsky and picks would be a bit better, but Kapanen isn't really a prospect.

Yeah first off Knies is a unicorn... young big strong decent contract with the cap going up... I see alot of upside and he is so young. The kind of guy you spend years hunting for if you don't have one. As others have said I would have to be totally blown away by an offer... like a Quinn Hughes with a few more years on his contract. Not even sure I'd do Larkin one for one as he is so much younger, bigger... even though Dylan is a quality c.

As for any trade that involves Miller - stay far away. Seems he's had a few issues with teams and teammates and comes across as a d*ck and poison in a locker room. We need a better room overall with character guys, Miller ain't that.

Let's stop saying we are an older team with limited assets, while saying let's trade one of, if not our very best, young players for anything.

 

[BurnTheBoats]

Let's assume if Matthew's agreed to a trade

Toronto-
1st round(7th overall)
Wright
Kakko
Top prospect
Top prospect

To

Seattle-
Matthews
Woll

Same goes for Nylander I think he wants to stay in Canada, first team I'd be calling is Edmonton, this trade would have to be after the draft.

Toronto-
1st round pick 2028
1st round pick 2029
2nd round pick 2026
Savoie
Howard
Podkolzin
Nurse
Bouchard

To

Edmonton-
Nylander
Rielly
Carlo
McCabe
Lorentz

Trade breakdown:
Nylander
Carlo
For
Howard
Bouchard
1st round 2028
1st round 2029

Rielly
For
Nurse

McCabe
Lorentz
For
2nd round 2026
Podkolzin
Savoie

Edmonton add a 1A winger in Nylander
Rielly replaces Nurse
Carlo replaces Bouchard
McCabe adds depth
Lorentz replaces Podkolzin
Howard & Savoie are a gamble for us
Easily replaceable for the Oilers.
Edmonton adds 4M in cap & we could retain Carlo + some of Nylanders contract for next year....if we retained 50% of Willie's contact next season or possibly the next two years if were unloading everyone.....the Oilers add 7.5M in cap.


Toronto-
1st round 2026
McBain

To

Seattle-
Tavares
Tanev
Stolarz

LW:
Knies
Cowan
Podkolzin
Robertson
Hopkins
Howard

Center:
1st round 2028-2029(Edmonton) or McDavid
Wright
McBain
Koblar
Holinka
Quillan
Groulx

RW:
McKenna
Kakko
Maccelli
2nd round pick
2nd round pick

Defense:
1st round 2026(Seattle)
Bouchard
Nurse
Danford
Chadwick
Villeneuve
Johansson

Goalies:
Hildeby
Akhtyamov

Plus whatever we get back from Ekmam-Larsson & Joshua.

Regardless these are the moves we should be looking into, especially if McDavid is considering not signing an extension with the Oilers, even if he does we can use those two 1st round picks to trade up + Colorado's 1st next year....we should have no issues getting a top 5-pick with all of those assets to get our #1 center. Plus we have the FA market to make tweaks.

 

[WTFMAN99]

Let's assume if Matthew's agreed to a trade it would be somewhere close to Arizona.....im sure Utah would show interest.

Toronto-
1st round(7th overall)
Wright
Kakko
McBain

To

Utah-
Matthews
Woll

Same goes for Nylander I think he wants to stay in Canada, first team I'd be calling is Edmonton, this trade would have to be after the draft.

Toronto-
1st round pick 2028
1st round pick 2029
2nd round pick 2026
Savoie
Howard
Podkolzin
Nurse
Bouchard

To

Edmonton-
Nylander
Rielly
Carlo
McCabe
Lorentz

I would then work somthing out with Tavares and move him in next years trade deadline, same goes for:
Stolarz
Tanev
Ekmam-Larsson
Joshua

You said Utah and then used half of Seattle's roster?

 

[Fogelhund]

Look, this Knies BS.... it's not a terrible offer, in a rebuild situation... it really depends on who the other prospect was... but the Leafs aren't in a rebuild situation, so it makes no sense, unless the offer is so good, we couldn't turn it down. Leafs aren't in a rebuild situation, so this makes no sense.

If this were Zharovsky + Hage + 2 1sts... ya, you've got to do that trade. Problem with Hage, is he's committed to going back to college, so you'd want to know he'd go pro as well.

 

[Rare Jewel]

Emotional attachment aside, the value is good. Zharovsky was a favourite prospect of mine in the last draft, and he was much more productive in the KHL than I thought he would be as well.

However, I'm kind of the belief that you should save his trade for either A. the defenceman (i.e., Harley) or B. when you know the retool under Matthews is not going to work, that's still TBD, so..

Would be a bit of a ball punch to see him over there, though...

 

[thusk]

(if this is true) I honestly believe that the hockey gods intervened to stop that trade from happening. Devine intervention.

It's awful. I was looking at the prospects who aren't Hage, Reinbacher or Zharovsky and it's basically Engstrom or Beck. Beck is trending towards a 4C and Engstrom is "just okay".

I mean, Kapanen and Zharovsky and picks would be a bit better, but Kapanen isn't really a prospect.

it was probably Fowler, rumor was pretty high after TDL than Fowler would be in

 

[Fogelhund]

Let's assume if Matthew's agreed to a trade it would be somewhere close to Arizona.....im sure Utah would show interest.

Toronto-
1st round(7th overall)
Wright
Kakko
McBain

To

Utah-
Matthews
Woll

Same goes for Nylander I think he wants to stay in Canada, first team I'd be calling is Edmonton, this trade would have to be after the draft.

Toronto-
1st round pick 2028
1st round pick 2029
2nd round pick 2026
Savoie
Howard
Podkolzin
Nurse
Bouchard

To

Edmonton-
Nylander
Rielly
Carlo
McCabe
Lorentz

I would then work somthing out with Tavares and move him in next years trade deadline, same goes for:
Stolarz
Tanev
Ekmam-Larsson
Joshua

Step away from the crack pipe.

 

[Brobust]

A lot of them are in here. I also saw apparently Treliving was talking to Edmonton for a Nurse+ for Roy, maybe even included Rielly.

Oh my god, he was trading Knies' salary so that he could add Nurse.

 

[WTFMAN99]

Look, this Knies BS.... it's not a terrible offer, in a rebuild situation... it really depends on who the other prospect was... but the Leafs aren't in a rebuild situation, so it makes no sense, unless the offer is so good, we couldn't turn it down. Leafs aren't in a rebuild situation, so this makes no sense.

If this were Zharovsky + Hage + 2 1sts... ya, you've got to do that trade. Problem with Hage, is he's committed to going back to college, so you'd want to know he'd go pro as well.

It could be Hage and Reinbacher on top of Zhar and 2 1sts, it's still quantity. The amount of top prospects we've seen bust is countless.

Top end D or a much higher quality of futures like 4th overall and Frondell, that might force you to say yes but there is a reason probably the entire league would want Knies on their team.

 

[PromisedLand]

WTF?

so glad Treliving's ASS GOT FIRED

 

[PromisedLand]

 

[KMNRB]

(if this is true) I honestly believe that the hockey gods intervened to stop that trade from happening. Devine intervention.

It's awful. I was looking at the prospects who aren't Hage, Reinbacher or Zharovsky and it's basically Engstrom or Beck. Beck is trending towards a 4C and Engstrom is "just okay".

I mean, Kapanen and Zharovsky and picks would be a bit better, but Kapanen isn't really a prospect.

If that's really the trade, it'd be worse than any trade he has made (and he has certainly made plenty). Maybe he just wanted to screw the Leafs before getting fired. If we are to trade Knies, I'd rather trade him for something like Chicago's #4+ (quality for quality) than this package of lottery tickets that may turn into nothing (quality for quantity with medium value).