GDT: Trade and Free agent Rumours thread | Chayka off-season edition

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View attachment 1257399Sooooo looks like bob is the starter? Contract announcement pending July 1st WTF IS HAPPENING

Is this source trustworthy?

Do we know if this is just AI or even photoshop?

 

[SprDaVE]

Is this source trustworthy?

Do we know if this is just AI or even photoshop?

 

[Buckley]

That picture is undoubtedly fake, but the idea itself is hardly far-fetched.

 

[Phion Keneuf]

If AA is the goalie of the future it does make some sense to me. ~$10M allocated to your goaltending duo for next few years. Hopefully Bob bounces back to an elite goalie for 1-2 years, after that he shifts to backup and AA becomes the starter.

 

[Pinto]

Is this source trustworthy?

Do we know if this is just AI or even photoshop?

Leafs Latest just reposts stuff from actual insiders, so it’s legit that way. But I think that’s clearly an AI generated image they got from somewhere or it’s a fake version of the actual page.

 

[ULF_55]

That account just reposts stuff and it was taken from an unknown source with zero other sources. They also deleted the tweet already.

First, why the Leafs would plaster this everywhere in an empty arena at ~11am is beyond me, then there are signs that there's some shoddy editing with the background TVs. I'm not an editor or graphic designer though.

Either way, we'll see I guess.

Friedman: Maple Leafs in on Sergei Bobrovsky as team looks to upgrade in net

<p>The Toronto Maple Leafs could be looking to make another move to bolster their crease with Sergei Bobrovsky emerging as a potential target, according to Sportsnet’s Elliotte Friedman. Last week, the Leafs made a trade that sent Joseph Woll and Simon Benoit to the Philadelphia Flyers for Emil...

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During Monday’s edition of 32 Thoughts: The Podcast, Friedman reported that not only is he not convinced the Leafs will qualify Ersson but instead try to bolster the position with an established name like Bobrovsky.

“ I think they’re looking in goal. [Jordan] Binnington, if he’s available, they’ll check it. [Connor] Hellebuyck,  I don’t know that it’s likely; they’ll check it,” he said.  ”Bobrovsky, don’t forget Anthony Stolarz won a Stanley Cup backing up Bobrovsky. Nobody knows him better. And Steve Lorentz was Bobrovsky’s shooter,  he’s Bobrovsky’s guy.  He will always be loyal to Bobrovsky because Bobrovsky kept him in the NHL ’cause he would go shoot on him every morning.”

 

[Amadeus]

My rule is:

If you see any of these leaked pics or videos, or if you see a player or coach follow a 'team' on Insta, just assume the opposite.

 

[Bellzy]

That picture is undoubtedly fake, but the idea itself is hardly far-fetched.

Someone posted above. It’s a legit photo.

 

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[Jmo89]

Didn’t we just see how little value goalies have? Wouldn’t Hildeby’s value be somewhere between Woll and Silovs?

Exactly, which is why you drop Stolarz not Hildeby. You're not going to get enough value from Hildeby to make it worth it. Keep the guy you drafted and developed instead of letting him be another Rask.

Or let him be on of the adds on a bigger deal for a goalie like Helly (not the centerpiece).

 

[NJG]

Do you want him playing a lot if the results are poor though ?

I don't get where all this 'poor play' is coming from. He had a down year, just like pretty much the whole team did. They missed the playoffs and finished as a bottom 10 team. What did he do the two seasons before that? Oh yeah — he won back-to-back Stanley Cups. He's a good goalie we could add without losing any assets, which we don’t really have anyway. I'm just not signing him at $6M x 6 though.

 

[ER89]

I wholeheartedly agree that depth wins but they are nowhere close to winning. Picking up Wright+7+future 1st for Knies goes further towards building depth than keeping Knies does.

But that doesn't make sense.

Because then you're doing a retool but we know that's not in the cards considering the whole raddysh thing. Those two moves don't go hand in hand

 

[hockeywiz542]

NOTE: Quote is Dreger not anyone connected to Matthews nor the Leafs.

 

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[Torontonian]

This isn't a rumor, just purely for discussion, but would fans be okay with a Knies for Thomas 1 for 1 trade? Knies is 23, 5 years on his deal left @ 7.75m, Thomas is 26 with 4 years on his deal at 8.1m.

I know alot of people are saying if Knies is going to be traded it should be for a d-man, but I think having a 3 headed beast down the middle of the ice is just as important.

 

[Amadeus]

This isn't a rumor, just purely for discussion, but would fans be okay with a Knies for Thomas 1 for 1 trade? Knies is 23, 5 years on his deal left @ 7.75m, Thomas is 26 with 4 years on his deal at 8.1m.

I know alot of people are saying if Knies is going to be traded it should be for a d-man, but I think having a 3 headed beast down the middle of the ice is just as important.

No incentive for St. Louis to do that!

 

[Rare Jewel]

If you go watch Kypers segment on the recent Shannon and MIllard podcast.

Shannon threw out the idea that Matthews and his camp weren't thrilled about Chayka saying he knew the family to some extent.

I mean, to this point, they've done quite a bit to appease him, so the idea that this is still out there is interesting.

 

[Jmo89]

It seems like Seattle just set the market for Wright with the Samoskevich trade. Roughly the same age, around the same points, both 1st round picks. Wright has a bit more draft pedigree and a few more points so probably gets a small add.

My guess is the Leafs could get him for Colorado 1st 27, Seattle 2nd 27, and a small plus (Maccelli if the Leafs aren't going to qualify him. Seattle seems to love their middle 6 players.)

Wright is intriguing but I think that's a little much for him with what he's shown. I wouldn't even call it a quality for quantity trade since Wright really hasn't shown much quality yet.

 

[Stephen]

Yes - the mediocre 7OA. The mediocre future 1st. Basically nothing assets.

I don’t want the 7OA when the party might be over at 4OA.

 

[Community]

Assuming that there is no deal available for a bonafide #1Dman, would you rather the Leafs use their remaining assets to improve the bottom 6 (#2/3C comes to mind) or add another top 4 dman?

My first hope is Harley trade, but its probably a pipe dream.

I know a lot of people want to ship out Carlo and Rielly and add another top 4 dman, but I think our needs are easily:
#1Dman > Center depth > 2nd pairing dmen.

Guys that are quality 3rd line Cs that could still become a 2C with more gametime come to mind (Wright, Bourque, Krebs, etc). This is coming from a guy who thinks JT will and SHOULD be our #2C next year but realizes his production will start dropping at some point relatively soon.

 

[Torontonian]

No incentive for St. Louis to do that!

Probably not, but that wasn't really the point of the question, just curious to see if fans would be okay trading a mid teir 1st line winger / good 2nd line winger for a 2C in a hockey trade, other then trying to trade him for a D-man.

 

[Stephen]

If you go watch Kypers segment on the recent Shannon and MIllard podcast.

Shannon threw out the idea that Matthews and his camp weren't thrilled about Chayka saying he knew the family to some extent.

I mean, to this point, they've done quite a bit to appease him, so the idea thing that's still out there is interesting.

Matthews continues to make himself problem. We just don’t need a guy who is not really committed and ready to pull the pin on the grenade, leaking shade once in a while. I don’t care about Chayka but the shape of things has been determined and if you don’t like it, they aren’t going to change the GM in 4 months to suit AM34’s mood.

 

[Stephen]

It seems like Seattle just set the market for Wright with the Samoskevich trade. Roughly the same age, around the same points, both 1st round picks. Wright has a bit more draft pedigree and a few more points so probably gets a small add.

My guess is the Leafs could get him for Colorado 1st 27, Seattle 2nd 27, and a small plus (Maccelli if the Leafs aren't going to qualify him. Seattle seems to love their middle 6 players.)

Wright is intriguing but I think that's a little much for him with what he's shown. I wouldn't even call it a quality for quantity trade since Wright really hasn't shown much quality yet.

Yeah acquiring a project like Wright isn’t necessarily a problem but it has to come cheap enough that the latent upside is worth it. If you pay full retail for a maybe, what’s the point?

 

[ULF_55]

If you go watch Kypers segment on the recent Shannon and MIllard podcast.

Shannon threw out the idea that Matthews and his camp weren't thrilled about Chayka saying he knew the family to some extent.

I mean, to this point, they've done quite a bit to appease him, so the idea thing that's still out there is interesting.

I'd say there has been some stretching of the truth. Chayka did say he had met with Matthews family, including Dad, Mom, sisters and agent. I did not find any quotes where he said they were close personal friends.

He spoke about his time with Coyotes and that Matthews was coming up through the ranks before he was drafted.

Additionally I looked for Shannon stuff and saw a 2019 Report he did.

 

[BobClarkesfrontteeth]

This isn't a rumor, just purely for discussion, but would fans be okay with a Knies for Thomas 1 for 1 trade? Knies is 23, 5 years on his deal left @ 7.75m, Thomas is 26 with 4 years on his deal at 8.1m.

I know alot of people are saying if Knies is going to be traded it should be for a d-man, but I think having a 3 headed beast down the middle of the ice is just as important.

St.Louis is never doing Thomas straight up for Knies. You would need to add A LOT for them to be interested.

If the ask is to be believed then there are two teams that have the assets available to do a Knies trade with two more teams close to having the assests.
Chicago and Ottawa have the required Top pairing Dman, Top 10 1st, and a NHL Role player.
Dallas has a defenceman who is an instant top pairing but not he top 10 1st round pick
Seattle has the top 10 draft pick but not the Dman I assume Wright would be a part of the package coming to Toronto.
I really wonder if Dallas doesn't do something big as they have fallen flat now for the last 4 years with this group and trade with both Seattle and Toronto to bring in Knies, Wright and other pieces while moving out Harley and Robertson.