GDT: Trade and Free agent Rumours thread | Chayka off-season edition

[weems]

What does AGM Raddysh know that we don't.....

Feels like we're going to sign Tuch.

 

[Kiwi]

Bob?
He's in his late 30's and couldn't stop a beach ball last season and he's our plan for our new starter?

Who's the idiot that came up with this "idea"

 

[BoBfromAulon]

What does AGM Raddysh know that we don't.....

Maybe soon we will have a pair of vegetables (aka acquire his brother)

 

[CtrlAltDel]

What does AGM Raddysh know that we don't.....

That’s hilarious. I love this guys attitude.

 

[Clark4Ever]

There is reasonable evidence to suggest that last year was an outlier and that he has more gas left in the tank:

 

[cyris]

Why? The Leafs definitely aren't going into next season with Stolarz and Hildeby as their goalies, so another goalie is going to be brought in.

Why draft and develop goaltenders at all if when one shows promise you won’t give him a chance at all.
Hildeby had better numbers last season than Bob or any other Leafs goalie

 

[SprDaVE]

There is reasonable evidence to suggest that last year was an outlier and that he has more gas left in the tank:

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The one thing you can't deny is that the guy is a workhorse. Probably the goaltender with the most starts by a mile since 2016 (combining both season and playoffs)

With our luck he'd blow out his groin in the first week and start his descent into a broken goaltender that can't stay healthy or be good.

 

[Duffman955]

What does AGM Raddysh know that we don't.....

This guy was probably sold on the Chayka plan before signing. I expect the same for other major players and captain.

 

[BertCorbeau]

The big change hype train is on a roll

Common trades

 

[Clark4Ever]

If the plan is to trade Stolarz and run Bob with Hildeby and AA, I'm okay with it.

I would prefer that as well but not sure if it's realistic given the connection with Bob and Stolarz. Hildeby may be the sacrificial lamb.

 

[phillipmike]

If the Bob signing happens, it really makes me draw comparable to the Leafs of 2002-03 clearing out their goalie room going from Joesph, Schwab and Barrasso to Belfour, Kidd and Tellqvist.

Belfour drawing a lot of parallels to Bobrovsky.

Belfour was 37 when signing with the Leafs.
Belfour won 2 Vezinas at 25 and 27.
Belfour had 3 long playoff runs (WCF loss, cup win and cup loss)
At age 36, Belfour has a terrible year (.895 save percentage) and Dallas misses the playoffs)

Leafs sign Belfour to a 3 year deal (age 37-40, Lockout took a year)

Belfour rebounds with 2 very good seasons getting him Vezina votes
2002-03: 37-20-5 .922 S% and 2.26 GAA
2003-04: 34-19-6 .918 S% and 2.13 GAA

Bob will be 38.
Bob won 2 Vezinas at 24 and 28.
Bob had 3 playoff runs (SCF loss and then 2 cups)
At age 37, Bobrovsky has a terrible year (.877 save percentage) and Florida misses the playoffs)

I'm sure going deep on playoff runs took a lot out of Belfour and having that playoff run off helped him rest and that is why he improved the next year with the Leafs. Wonder if the same can be said for Bob. Just needed some rest.

(Very unlikely) but I also wonder if it’s a signed Bob+ for Stolarz and Ersson.

Florida gets Stolarz to start and Ersson to back up.

Leafs go with;
Bob
Hildeby
AA in the AHL

Move off Stolarz $3.75M. Say you sign Bob to $6-7M years you are getting a much more dependable for only $2-3M more.

Basically Bob and Hildeby at $7-8M vs Woll and Stolarz for $7M.

 

[mapleleafs34]

I would prefer that as well but not sure if it's realistic given the connection with Bob and Stolarz. Hildeby may be the sacrificial lamb.

Hopefully used in a bigger deal

 

[kb]

The big change hype train is on a roll

Common trades

Woooooooo woooooooo!! All aboard!!

 

[Clark4Ever]

Why draft and develop goaltenders at all if when one shows promise you won’t give him a chance at all.
Hildeby had better numbers last season than Bob or any other Leafs goalie

That is fair and I really like Hildeby but in terms of playoff pedigree at the NHL level, there's no comparison. Maybe Hildeby would flourish if given that opportunity but Bob has already proven it many times.

 

[Menzinger]

I would prefer that as well but not sure if it's realistic given the connection with Bob and Stolarz. Hildeby may be the sacrificial lamb.

If it helps fill a need, like a centre or impact D then so be it

 

[Clark4Ever]

The one thing you can't deny is that the guy is a workhorse. Probably the goaltender with the most starts by a mile since 2016 (combining both season and playoffs)

With our luck he'd blow out his groin in the first week and start his descent into a broken goaltender that can't stay healthy or be good.

Haha, yeah. But if his durability continues, that would be something else that we've been lacking.

 

[sxvnert]

1) Bob
2) Stolly
3) Artie

Interesting.

 

[Machinae]

Could the Knies smoke be a precursor to signing Tuch?

It could certainly lessen the blow..

I only trade Knies for a similar aged, top pair d-man or center though.

 

[Clark4Ever]

1) Bob
2) Stolly
3) Artie

Interesting.

That would be one of the deepest goaltending groups in the NHL. Plus, they all have previous connections.

 

[colchar]

Why draft and develop goaltenders at all if when one shows promise you won’t give him a chance at all.
Hildeby had better numbers last season than Bob or any other Leafs goalie

Yeah, let's give the net to a guy with 26 games of NHL experience. Brilliant plan you got there.

 

[ToDavid]

There is reasonable evidence to suggest that last year was an outlier and that he has more gas left in the tank:

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Last year's disastrous play was likely an outlier but what is it about his recent play that suggests he's worth a big money contract at age 38? He's bounced between average and a bit above average since joining the Panthers. Average to above average is fine but you can get it from far less risky contracts.

 

[Rare Jewel]

Feels like we're going to sign Tuch.

In a time when Americans are bolting for the south, I'd be very surprised by that.


It feels like Mikhaeyev, who, at the right number, could be a good signing.

 

[SprDaVE]

Yeah, let's give the net to a guy with 26 games of NHL experience. Brilliant plan you got there.

Bussi had 0 NHL games experience. He played over 40 in the season and took over the vet in the cup final.

Welcome to developing and promoting players. They gotta start somewhere. Every goaltender in the league started with 0 NHL games experience.

 

[Clark4Ever]

Last year's disastrous play was likely an outlier but what is it about his recent play that suggests he's worth a big money contract at age 38? He's bounced between average and a bit above average since joining the Panthers. Average to above average is fine but you can get it from far less risky contracts.

I would be willing to the take the risk if the contract length was reasonable. We saw first hand that the guy has the ability to turn it up a notch in the post season and take over a series.

 

[Kiwi]

There is reasonable evidence to suggest that last year was an outlier and that he has more gas left in the tank:

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Or he's very old and its caught up to him, I'd prefer not to pay what he's going to want to find out