Only to go back down to the AHL. Hence we aren’t signing him until we want to give him a shot
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Only to go back down to the AHL. Hence we aren’t signing him until we want to give him a shot
LeafChief
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So they could sign him and get him into a game without having to put him on waivers first? The rules seem very confusing on this.
The Podium
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I dug a bit deeper into it, seems like the entry waivers only apply if the mid-season signing was playing overseas.
A non-rostered player or AHL contract dont need to apparently.
justashadowof
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Holl may be going. In theory it would leave the Leafs weakened on the right side with literally no 4th option after Brodie/Dermott/Liljegren. Could Biega or Menell be that 4th option if Holl gets moved? Doubtful that a serviceable right sider could come back in return for Holl unless it's one of those "our problem for your problem" type of deals.
SprDaVE
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Holl is better than what he's shown so far... so it's a risky thing to just dump him. I will say though that Arizona could be a nice place to try and dump Ritchie and maybe Holl could join him.
I do think Menell would give the Leafs some serious speed and skill on the backend. He's not great defensively or anything, but at this point we might as well double down.
It would be wise to keep Holl, even if he might get pushed to the 7th D role.
It's a long season - injuries will happen, Sandin and/or Liljegren will eventually go through a rough patch, and having someone like Holl to come in, helps. He's better than what he's shown, and hopefully a few games off will help him.
We can't be in a hurry to push depth off of the roster.
It's a long season - injuries will happen, Sandin and/or Liljegren will eventually go through a rough patch, and having someone like Holl to come in, helps. He's better than what he's shown, and hopefully a few games off will help him.
We can't be in a hurry to push depth off of the roster.
The Podium
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BertCorbeau
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Also bailing on Holl after a seven game sample size seems unwise. He could entirely turn his play around.
And, you know, RHD depth is very very important.
He could make a great offseason trade chip though.
And, you know, RHD depth is very very important.
He could make a great offseason trade chip though.
Mickey Marner
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Holl is too cheap to bother trading at the moment. 2 million is basically MSRP for a #5.
Plus you could probably get a 2nd for him at the deadline if we were to end up sellers. Or a 1st if he turns his season around.
Plus you could probably get a 2nd for him at the deadline if we were to end up sellers. Or a 1st if he turns his season around.
yep I think we just rotate through the 7.
Unless we send home back in a Manson package or something crazy and unexpected
Menzinger
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Holl as a #7 has considerable more value to the team than some extra capspace, especially at this point in the season.
The whole point of trading for him was to be able to lose him for nothing. That’s why pitt let him go. You get that right?
What do we need to do to get Kubalik out of Chi to slap on Matthews’ wing?
1st/Robertson? Ritchie? Kerfoot?
Kubalik - Matthews - Nylander
Bunting - Tavares - Marner
Mikheyev - Kampf - Kase
Engvall - Spezza - Simmonds
1st/Robertson? Ritchie? Kerfoot?
Kubalik - Matthews - Nylander
Bunting - Tavares - Marner
Mikheyev - Kampf - Kase
Engvall - Spezza - Simmonds
Man I’d love to revisit that Weegar-Dermott/Johnsson trade, along with the McCann waiver decision.
Imagine:
McCann-Matthews-Nylander
Bunting-Tavares-Marner
Enqvall-Kase-Kampf
Ritchie-Spezza-Simmonds
Rielly-Weegar
Muzzin-Brodie
Sandin-Liljegren
Imagine:
McCann-Matthews-Nylander
Bunting-Tavares-Marner
Enqvall-Kase-Kampf
Ritchie-Spezza-Simmonds
Rielly-Weegar
Muzzin-Brodie
Sandin-Liljegren
reilly. Weegar. Muzzin. Brodie.
big 4.
that leaves the exact same scenario. They chose McCann last time. They can’t ice 15 d
There would be no way to protect both McCann and Weegar without exposing one of Matthews/Marner/Tavares/Nylander/Rielly/Muzzin/Brodie
SprDaVE
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The only player I'd punt right now for almost anything that doesn't bring cap back would be Ritchie.
Dreakmur
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If we got Weegar also likely would of never gone after Brodie. Let's stop the crazy spec talk.
They could have protected McCaan and exposed Kerfoot and Holl.
Choosing Kerfoot or Holl over McCaan was obviously a big mistake.
Nick Ritchie (2.5) Justin Holl (2) Kerfoot (3.5) = 8
Hyman (5.5) (Bogosian (850 k) McCaan (2.94) = 9.25.
This illustrates how important 1.25 million savings on the cap of a Marner/Matthews contract are and making the right decisions on players are.
McCaan (7 points in 8 games) >> Kerfoot.
Hyman (looks close to a team Canada LW right now)>>>>>>>>> Ritchie (barely an NHLer).
Bogosian >> Holl. (Not sure how we could have kept Bogosian but he's better this year).
Hyman-Matthews-Nylander
McCaan-Tavares-Marner
This top 6 is miles better then what we have now.
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