With all the 'kooks' that post here daily you must be delighted.
It is a pretty consistent pattern, isn’t it?
Dreading that Bills game, only because I don’t want to listen to that idiot Carlo crowing about it the next day on First Up……
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It is a pretty consistent pattern, isn’t it?
Dreading that Bills game, only because I don’t want to listen to that idiot Carlo crowing about it the next day on First Up……
Stephen
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I don't mind the idea of adding Chara, but iffy on the possibility that he would play less minutes than a typical 6th defenseman if that's where his game is at now, since I don't think we need a Joe Thornton experiment on defense.
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Yeah tough start to the season. My expectations are very low this year.It is a pretty consistent pattern, isn’t it?
Dreading that Bills game, only because I don’t want to listen to that idiot Carlo crowing about it the next day on First Up……
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SprDaVE
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Yeah... it wasn't anything earth shattering. Just repeated the obvious and usual thoughts about how the recent signings around the league have likely made an extension with Rielly very difficult. Mentioned the usual comparables.
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Does anyone else think the Leafs are missing a physical edge on the blueline?
No. Muzzin/Brodie/Holl/Liljegren/Dermott are all fine in this regard.
Holl and Dermott could work on not sacrificing body position to make a hit at times but other than that they're fine.
Bogosians impact was terribly overrated on this blueline. They were great last year and could be even better this year if Liljegren takes a step.
My hope is that TL is following his established pattern; a bit like a fish out of water to begin his journey at the next level due to confidence issues, but once acclimated, his game matures nicely and success follows. I’d pair him with Muzz to help him make the transition to a full time NHL defenseman. I think he’ll be an upgrade over Bogo by mid season, decent defensively, and an upgrade on breakouts and in the O zone.
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I see a lot more of the soft blueline from 2+ years ago this year. Could be the new forwards offset that.
The only guy leaving from last year was Bogosian and Liljegren is just as physical. They'll be fine back there unless all of Brodie/Muzzin/Liljegren happen to get injured at thw same time.
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Muzzin is entering the "slow down on the physical stuff or you'll always be injured" portion of his career. I like the way he has played the game but I'm not confident that he'll be able to continue that.
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I don't think Liljegren is replacing Bogosian this season. It's pretty obvious that Dermott will be on the right side 2nd or 3rd pairing this season with either Muzzin or Sandin. He may be the first in the lineup no matter the injury unless someone has leapfrogged him on the depth chart. My personal money however is on waiver eligible Mennell being the 7th defender over the waiver exempt Liljegren to start the season in the AHL if Mennell is good at camp.
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lmao no he's not
He actually is. Bogosian was probably our least frustrating 3rd pair guy in a while and it wasn't because he threw around the body a ridiculous amount (average hits wise). He played smart for the most part and didn't overdo the physical stuff. His one and only fight was in the offensive zone against Watson after he got mugged basically so it's not like he was punching guys lights out either.
He had 1 fight
Lili isn’t shy physically, and is built like a brick sh!thouse. His physical game has developed well over the years as part of his overall decision making. I’m hoping he’s the 3rd pair RD out of the gate, with management and fans patient through the growing pains. Should be worth it.
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Yeah it's time Liljegren makes the jump. He's 22 now, we've sheltered him enough.
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I'd rather keep Sandin down on the marlies this year than Liljegren.
Rielly - Brodie
Muzzin - Holl/Liljegren
Dermott - Holl/Liljegren
Should be our defense to start. It seems fairly obvious to me. However, I get the sense it'll be Sandin - Dermott on the third pairing.
Which, overall isn't bad. Sandin is good.
However I just feel that between Sandin and Liljegren, Sandin has more learning to do of the two.
Amazing how much these middle class guys are being relegated to the edge of the roster in their early 30s now...
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I think i might have preferred Bozak at that price over Kase for center depth and have Kerfoot on the wing.
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Ritchie Matthews Nylander
Kerfoot Tavares Marner
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Trade Kerfoot to Seattle for Bastian and Borgen. Borgen played well in his 10 game stint in Buffalo last year and could be a long term RD. Bastian is a Hyman type from my very limited research. Both players are locked in under 1M for 2 more seasons.
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