Trade and Free Agency Thread - C'mon More Trades!

[horner]

At the draft trade

Kerfoot 3rd pick
Engvall 5th Rd pick

 

[BertCorbeau]

Regardless if Dubas overpaid Marner, Matthews and Tavares he has show the ability to bring in guys to play with those top 2 lines.

Free agent forwards will look at the chance to play on either line and take a discount to come to Toronto especially the guys wanting to earn a big contract after getting more exposure in Toronto.

You can tell Gally "he you can go make 3-4 mil in another city and might not produce but stay here and make 2-3 and play with Willy and JT" Guys might take less to play on a good team.

Chucky shouldn't get more than $1-$1.5 mill on the market.

He's been better in Toronto in a supporting role and has helped create space and offensive chances for his line mates, but he does only have 2 goals and 7 assists in 17 games with the Leafs. This is while getting minutes with some elite players.

I'd be a fan of trying to re-sign him at his current cap hit though for another year.

 

[hockeynorth]

Dubas should still be a GM of the year candidate

 

[hockeynorth]

Chucky shouldn't get more than $1-$1.5 mill on the market.

He's been better in Toronto in a supporting role and has helped create space and offensive chances for his line mates, but he does only have 2 goals and 7 assists in 17 games with the Leafs. This is while getting minutes with some elite players.

I'd be a fan of trying to re-sign him at his current cap hit though for another year.

I have loved Galchenyuk, 9 in 17 is like 45 point production, I'd be very content with that for 1-1.5M.

 

[BertCorbeau]

I have loved Galchenyuk, 9 in 17 is like 45 point production, I'd be very content with that for 1-1.5M.

I can see him re-signing for cheap since he's being given top 9 minutes with great players and is playing well in his role.

He'll be 28 next year, so he could see it as a chance to rebuild some value and get a better contract if he can put up some points.

 

[123offtheglass]

I can see him re-signing for cheap since he's being given top 9 minutes with great players and is playing well in his role.

He'll be 28 next year, so he could see it as a chance to rebuild some value and get a better contract if he can put up some points.

Toronto is the place where he finally seems to have got himself figured out (or is arguably still doing so) after the rest of the league gave up on him; makes too much sense for him to resign a cheap extension with them, they've been great to him.

I hope Dubas plays hardball with him and gets him for cheap again this offseason. He's been a fit here but there's not much to suggest he would be elsewhere, so I don't see him making a whole lot on the open market anyways. It's a win-win for him to sign cheap in Toronto & Dubas can use that as leverage knowing Galchenyuk's situation & best interests. A cheap one year deal would be great but a cheap 2-year bridge deal could be even better if that could be pulled off... sort of like the Mikheyev deal but cheaper; they could potentially have their top 3 LW under contract for dirt cheap (Chucky, Robertson, Mikheyev).

 

[WTFMAN99]

I can see him re-signing for cheap since he's being given top 9 minutes with great players and is playing well in his role.

He'll be 28 next year, so he could see it as a chance to rebuild some value and get a better contract if he can put up some points.

Toronto is the place where he finally seems to have got himself figured out (or is arguably still doing so) after the rest of the league gave up on him; makes too much sense for him to resign a cheap extension with them, they've been great to him.

I hope Dubas plays hardball with him and gets him for cheap again this offseason. He's been a fit here but there's not much to suggest he would be elsewhere, so I don't see him making a whole lot on the open market anyways. It's a win-win for him to sign cheap in Toronto & Dubas can use that as leverage knowing Galchenyuk's situation & best interests. A cheap one year deal would be great but a cheap 2-year bridge deal could be even better if that could be pulled off... sort of like the Mikheyev deal but cheaper; they could potentially have their top 3 LW under contract for dirt cheap (Chucky, Robertson, Mikheyev).

1x1 deal makes the most sense. I think he likes being here and found some stability which likely is important to him at this point. You know how nice it would be not to have to move for the first summer in a long time?

 

[123offtheglass]

1x1 deal makes the most sense. I think he likes being here and found some stability which likely is important to him at this point. You know how nice it would be not to have to move for the first summer in a long time?

For that exact reason 1m x 1 makes sense, but I wonder if they could get him to bite on something like 1-1.25m x 2?

 

[hockeynorth]

Gally is also just such a feel good story, I'm glad he's succeeding here. Guys like him, Campbell, even Simmonds are showing you can in fact find yourself in Toronto even with the media pressure.

 

[CupcakeSprinkles]

At the draft trade

Kerfoot 3rd pick
Engvall 5th Rd pick

I'd be willing to walk from Engvall for a nothing prospect / 7th. He's a terrible fit for his team IMO he's like a more frustrating version of Gauthier. Somedays he makes a move and you're like wow.. but then he disappears for 25 games.

Keep Adam Brooks in the line-up

 

[Fogelhund]

Gally is also just such a feel good story, I'm glad he's succeeding here. Guys like him, Campbell, even Simmonds are showing you can in fact find yourself in Toronto even with the media pressure.

Gally has been a decent story, for the cost and cap hit. He's not particularly good defensively though. If he wants to prolong his career, he needs to figure out the D zone better, as offensively he is contributing at an acceptable rate.

 

[ryno23]

Would people rather see Seattle take Kerfoot in the expansion draft and opening up 3.5 mil or one of the D such as Dermott to open up a spot for Sandin?

I hope they take Kerfoot as 3.5 mil space in a flat cap might be hard to move without taking any back. You probably could move Dermott easier getting picks back.

Ideally Reilly is on the move this summer before free agency unless he wants to come back for a discount.

 

[Fogelhund]

I'd be willing to walk from Engvall for a nothing prospect / 7th. He's a terrible fit for his team IMO he's like a more frustrating version of Gauthier. Somedays he makes a move and you're like wow.. but then he disappears for 25 games.

Keep Adam Brooks in the line-up

I think Engvall's done a decent job for us. 63% Dzone starts, with decent possession metrics for that overweight. We give up less goals when he's on the ice, than we score. He's pretty low event hockey though, and isn't providing offense at a very good level. He moves around the ice quite well, isn't caught out of position, but with that size, you'd expect more physicality.

I would continue to work with Engvall, and evolve his game. Brooks is another small guy, a problem on the Leafs. Get Engvall to work on his offensive side, and more physicality, and we've got a pretty good sub 12 minute a game guy.

 

[Fogelhund]

Would people rather see Seattle take Kerfoot in the expansion draft and opening up 3.5 mil or one of the D such as Dermott to open up a spot for Sandin?

I hope they take Kerfoot as 3.5 mil space in a flat cap might be hard to move without taking any back. You probably could move Dermott easier getting picks back.

Ideally Reilly is on the move this summer before free agency unless he wants to come back for a discount.

I'm rather ambivalent, but I do think that Kerfoot is going to be their target. The quality of D men available, is likely above the quality of forwards. Before UFA, Trades, he could be their #2C.

 

[Buds17]

Would people rather see Seattle take Kerfoot in the expansion draft and opening up 3.5 mil or one of the D such as Dermott to open up a spot for Sandin?

I hope they take Kerfoot as 3.5 mil space in a flat cap might be hard to move without taking any back. You probably could move Dermott easier getting picks back.

Ideally Reilly is on the move this summer before free agency unless he wants to come back for a discount.

Kerfoot is probably a player the team has to move on from due to the cap hit relative to his place in the lineup. Unless there is excess depth on the blueline or difficulty with re-signing Dermott to a new deal, I'm not sure the same holds true for Dermott.

 

[BertCorbeau]

Blue line depth is so important and Dermott has more upside than Kerfoot at their respective positions IMO.

I'd be happy if they took Kerfoot over him just because it doesn't open up the cap space and keeps our blue line depth

 

[BertCorbeau]

I'm rather ambivalent, but I do think that Kerfoot is going to be their target. The quality of D men available, is likely above the quality of forwards. Before UFA, Trades, he could be their #2C.

He also isn't signed long-term, has position flexibility to be moved to the wing, can PK and be on the PP.

Lots of utility for Seattle.

 

[Legion34]

I'm rather ambivalent, but I do think that Kerfoot is going to be their target. The quality of D men available, is likely above the quality of forwards. Before UFA, Trades, he could be their #2C.

i think it’s most likely

Take some rando like clune as a placeholder. Leafs pay bonus and trade back for him.

seattle would get him for 750k this year

 

[SeaOfBlue]

i think it’s most likely

Take some rando like clune as a placeholder. Leafs pay bonus and trade back for him.

seattle would get him for 750k this year

Are they giving us a pick to do that? Otherwise, if they want Kerfoot, just take him straight up and pay the bonus.

 

[Menzinger]

Would people rather see Seattle take Kerfoot in the expansion draft and opening up 3.5 mil or one of the D such as Dermott to open up a spot for Sandin?

I hope they take Kerfoot as 3.5 mil space in a flat cap might be hard to move without taking any back. You probably could move Dermott easier getting picks back.

Ideally Reilly is on the move this summer before free agency unless he wants to come back for a discount.

They be drawn to Kerfoot by the fact they will have very few centres options available and will have many good D men options available to them

 

[Menzinger]

He also isn't signed long-term, has position flexibility to be moved to the wing, can PK and be on the PP.

Lots of utility for Seattle.

They also hired a bunch of stats people in their front office and Kerfoots underlying numbers have always been strong

 

[Antropovsky]

Kerfoot is the type of player if you lose your never gonna be like damn it he turned into an amazing player. He's a good depth player though.

Must sting like hell for Anaheim to see Theodore playing like a #1 defenseman for Vegas, he has 38 points in 43 games and he's only 25 years old.

 

[SeaOfBlue]

At the draft trade

Kerfoot 3rd pick
Engvall 5th Rd pick

I think Engvall either goes for a late 3rd or early 4th in 2021. Siegenthaler went for a late 3rd. Lemieux went for an early 4th. That is Engvall's range.

I imagine Kerfoot is not traded (rather taken in expansion), but if he is, I think the Leafs get a 2nd or at least a prospect as good as Anderson (which is worth more than a 3rd).

 

[Kurtz]

At the draft trade

Kerfoot 3rd pick
Engvall 5th Rd pick

Hopefully we can unload those two without spending those picks.

 

[4thline]

Assumptions
Dermott to Seattle
Kerfoot to Arizona once his bonus is paid

Hyman 4m
Galchenyuk 1.5m

xxx-Matthews-Marner
Galch-Tavares-Nylander
Robertson-Engvall-Hyman
Soup-Brooks-Anderson

Rielly-Brodie
Muzzin-Liljegren
Sandin-Holl

Campbell
2 spares - 800k per

leaves 6.4m for tandem goalie, 1LW, potentially upgrading Envall

There's money there to bring Foligno back if he's interested