Trade and Free Agency Thread - 2022 - Off-season

[Americanadian]

Might do a Tavares and take 9.5mx7 to play close to home.

That would make it even worse considering this conversation is about a comparison to Marner and home for Marner is Toronto. Also if you compare it to Tavares - Gaudreau outperformed Tavares in his RFA years and could get 1.5M less than Tavares 4 years later. That is a 2.3% cap hit difference or 1.9M on an 82.5M cap.

 

[Gallagbi]

And look where that got them. He was complete shit the games i watched.

So we agree Holl is an upgrade to another playoff team's top pair. Good talk.

 

[Fogelhund]

what happened with Colin White, I thought he was pretty solid, Maybe signing him cheap after a buyout and motivated would be intriguing

White had one good offensive season, his rookie season, where his primary line mates were Tkachuk and Stone. Since then, it's been all downhill. He doesn't PK, he's terrible at faceoffs, isn't big... I don't get the attraction to be honest, other than some people just remembering he had 40 points once, on the backs of his line mates.

 

[Gallagbi]

Tyson Barrie was also in the top 4 there, and brought value on the PP.

I think he was closer to bottom pair with them this year, but it seems pretty obvious Holl could be an upgrade on some teams D and likely plays in the top 4

 

[ULF_55]

So DeSmith's agent didn't think there'd be any offers for him?

Are there that many goaltenders out there looking for work that he'd have his player sign for $1.8mm?

 

[I am Canadian]

Sandin for a young C prospect? Kupari from LA? Turcotte?

 

[Fogelhund]

Sandin for a young C prospect? Kupari from LA? Turcotte?

If it could be done, I'd move him to Arizona with our first for Chychrun.

 

[SprDaVE]

Sandin for a young C prospect? Kupari from LA? Turcotte?

Yeah I think Kupari could be ok? Can't say I've seen him enough to have a good read how good he is or how they value him there.

Turcotte seems untouchable for a bit. 5th overall not long ago. Still waiver exempt. They can probably package him for a star-level player in the next year or so instead of a Sandin level player.

 

[Magic Man]

He's going to get $5-6 mil. How are we going to afford that?

He had a good 54 game stretch. I don't think that gets 5-6M. I think he'll have to settle for 3-4M. Maybe, 4.5M if a team decides to get silly.

 

[supermann_98]

Kypreos reporting on his show today that he's hearing the Leafs plan is to run Mrazek as a starter to start the year and Woll/Kallgren as backup. His reporting is always iffy but someone feeds him info.

I highly doubt Dubas gambles his career on the worst goaltending duo in the league ... and saying that there are probably KHL and AHL teams with a better goaltending duo than that.

If that's our goaltending to start the year ....

 

[7even]

Kypreos reporting on his show today that he's hearing the Leafs plan is to run Mrazek as a starter to start the year and Woll/Kallgren as backup. His reporting is always iffy but someone feeds him info.

That would be Burke Era 2.0

 

[WTFMAN99]

Yeah I think Kupari could be ok? Can't say I've seen him enough to have a good read how good he is or how they value him there.

Turcotte seems untouchable for a bit. 5th overall not long ago. Still waiver exempt. They can probably package him for a star-level player in the next year or so instead of a Sandin level player.

I still think we might regret this with a hobbled Muzzin and 38 Giordano as the only real options behind Rielly.

I love Kral but I figure he's 3rd pairing level.

 

[Nylander88]

He's a better offensive player, but he's not a centre. You put Kerfoot ahead of Kampf in the lineup, which indicates you think he's a better player. Seems pretty counterproductive to play a worse player more than a better player.

Not hopping in part way through a conversation would help. The original post was replying to a poster saying they'd prefer Kampf as a 4C and someone with more offence being at 3C. I said we could run Matthews, Tavares, Kerfoot, Kampf if need be since Kerfoot is a better offensive player. To which you just hopped in and said Kampf is a better Center, to which I wasn't arguing who was the better Center. Now you're saying Kerfoot isn't a C when he's played just as much of his career at C as he has wing. And was great at C centering Galchenyuk & Willy against the habs. So ya, if you want a more offensive C, Kerfoot at 3C and Kampf at 4C makes a lot of sense without changes

 

[Nylander88]

what happened with Colin White, I thought he was pretty solid, Maybe signing him cheap after a buyout and motivated would be intriguing

Would be all for taking a flyer on him. Still young and plays with good intensity. Worst case he's a good option to be 4C imo

 

[BertCorbeau]

White is worth a gamble because of the organization’s lack of centre depth in the prospect pool IMO

 

[hockeywiz542]

 

[ToneDog]

I see Cogliano signed with Avs for 1.25m. Moves slowly picking up.

 

[WTFMAN99]

I see Cogliano signed with Avs for 1.25m. Moves slowly picking up.

It's come in dribs and drabs, waiting for the dam to break and just see chaos.

 

[SprDaVE]

 

[Mickey Marner]

So DeSmith's agent didn't think there'd be any offers for him?

Are there that many goaltenders out there looking for work that he'd have his player sign for $1.8mm?

Character issues.

 

[stickty111]

 

[Dreakmur]

Not hopping in part way through a conversation would help. The original post was replying to a poster saying they'd prefer Kampf as a 4C and someone with more offence being at 3C.

You replied to my post that said we can't afford to add a 3rd line centre better than Kampf.

I said we could run Matthews, Tavares, Kerfoot, Kampf if need be since Kerfoot is a better offensive player. To which you just hopped in and said Kampf is a better Center, to which I wasn't arguing who was the better Center. Now you're saying Kerfoot isn't a C when he's played just as much of his career at C as he has wing. And was great at C centering Galchenyuk & Willy against the habs.

Kerftoot puts up more points as a complimentary winger. He's never been able to play centre in any kind of full time capacity.

So ya, if you want a more offensive C, Kerfoot at 3C and Kampf at 4C makes a lot of sense without changes

If you want a line that might score more but is worse overall...

 

[Fogelhund]

NHL Rumors: The Avalanche and Kuemper ... The Maple Leafs and Giroux - NHL Rumors

Darcy Kuemper looking for $6.5 million? The Colorado Avalanche likely can't do that. Are the Toronto Maple Leafs interested in Claude Giroux?

nhlrumors.com

Claude Giroux and the Toronto Maple Leafs?​

Sportsnet 590 The Fan: Elliotte Friedman on the Real Kyper & Bourne show yesterday morning when asked if we’re going to hear more about Claude Giroux and the Toronto Maple Leafs. They love bringing in veterans like Joe Thornton, Patrick Marleau, Jason Spezza. Why is Kypreos hearing more about Giroux and the Leafs?

Friedman:

“I wrote it just as, I think the way I phrased it as kind of a wild, out of nowhere prediction. I wouldn’t be surprised. If he hits the market I wouldn’t be surprised Nick if they called him and just said, ‘what would it take?’

Look, he’s building a home in Ottawa. He made it very clear last year at the deadline that he’d prefer to stay in the East. I think you hit on something there, he fits the profile of what they like to do, and he’s still a pretty good player.

To me, if they’re doing that, they’re making a big move somewhere else cause they need room to do it. But I think they’ll call him. I do.”

3 years x 5 mil?

 

[stickty111]

NHL Rumors: The Avalanche and Kuemper ... The Maple Leafs and Giroux - NHL Rumors

Darcy Kuemper looking for $6.5 million? The Colorado Avalanche likely can't do that. Are the Toronto Maple Leafs interested in Claude Giroux?

nhlrumors.com

Claude Giroux and the Toronto Maple Leafs?​

Sportsnet 590 The Fan: Elliotte Friedman on the Real Kyper & Bourne show yesterday morning when asked if we’re going to hear more about Claude Giroux and the Toronto Maple Leafs. They love bringing in veterans like Joe Thornton, Patrick Marleau, Jason Spezza. Why is Kypreos hearing more about Giroux and the Leafs?

Friedman:

“I wrote it just as, I think the way I phrased it as kind of a wild, out of nowhere prediction. I wouldn’t be surprised. If he hits the market I wouldn’t be surprised Nick if they called him and just said, ‘what would it take?’

Look, he’s building a home in Ottawa. He made it very clear last year at the deadline that he’d prefer to stay in the East. I think you hit on something there, he fits the profile of what they like to do, and he’s still a pretty good player.

To me, if they’re doing that, they’re making a big move somewhere else cause they need room to do it. But I think they’ll call him. I do.”

3 years x 5 mil?

It would certainly solve the lack of scoring issue we have had. I would look into it but not sure we can do it without some serious juggling.

 

[Menzinger]

Sandin for a young C prospect? Kupari from LA? Turcotte?

That's the only way I'd have interest in trading him. Either for a centre prospect or a young top 9C whose roster ready