Trade and Free Agency Thread - 2022 - Off-season

[Buds17]

We'll have to see what Tampa expects in return, or what they are willing to take back. While McDonagh is currently a very good blueliner, this situation still involves a lot of money, term and a complete say on his part as to where he ends up.

 

[TMLAM34]

looking at RFA's and caps, i'm wondering if Kahkonen could be available i cant see SJ keeping both him and Hill and Reimer, and I want no part of Reimer, but, SJ needs Reimer as the solid vet to mentor one of these 2 guys.
SJ doesnt have much cap space, and has a ton of RFA's to resign, though none stand out as big $$ guys, but, 3 deep in net with 2 mid 20's NHL goalies backing up Reimer doesnt likely work

I was disappointed when he got traded to San Jose at the deadline, really thought that’s someone Dubas would have pushed harder for given his reasonable cost to acquire. Would be a great addition but don’t see San Jose moving him so soon. They’d probably rather move the often injured Hill.

 

[pspot]

I’d take cernak or Foote

 

[thusk]

Have you looked at his age and contract?

Age 33 to 36 his remaining contract... not so bad (35 is the age gio won his norris) and 36 the age hainsey joined the leafs...

6.75M for a top 2 D better than anybody in leafs line up defensive side (not even close)...

I dont see where is the problem

He'll want to go to a contender, and that contender will have to have space.

Pittsburgh moves from Letang to McDonagh?

Maybe if gm want to upgrade their team, trust me they will find a way to clear cap space...

Maybe pittsburg, not impossible

 

[Americanadian]

looking at RFA's and caps, i'm wondering if Kahkonen could be available i cant see SJ keeping both him and Hill and Reimer, and I want no part of Reimer, but, SJ needs Reimer as the solid vet to mentor one of these 2 guys.
SJ doesnt have much cap space, and has a ton of RFA's to resign, though none stand out as big $$ guys, but, 3 deep in net with 2 mid 20's NHL goalies backing up Reimer doesnt likely work

Marek touched on this today on his show. He said he's hearing teams are monitoring SJ to see which of Reimer/Hill they decide to move on from.

 

[Mickey Marner]

I would trade so many players off that roster before McDonagh if I were Briesbois.

 

[fahad203]

You mean Kurt Sauer? Imagine having a senile old man in charge that is so out of touch he signs the wrong guy. I still can’t get over the fact this organization allowed that to happen.

Cliff over the years got too much love for that one trade with flames for Gilmour

Otherwise his trading and signing players records are horrible.

On top of that, he's not even the pro scout. What were our pro scouts doing ?

I thought you double check cross check and go through gating system

I still cannot believe you sign the wrong player especially when one shoots left and other right

Even Kurt, what was he thinking? He was out of the league 3 years after

 

[LeafsOHLRangers98]

What? He put up 47 points in 54 games on the 3rd line. Where does this top 6 stuff come from? He averaged 14 minutes a night. He also brings something that no one on the Leafs has which is size and nastiness.

He had 23 of his 47 points in a 14 game stretch in which he shot 31% and his linemates also shot over 20% while playing about the same amount of ice time as Nylander or Tavares.

Florida's offense as a whole was unsustainable but Marchment's prpduction especially during that stretch was a flash in the pan and to expect it to continue, or for him to be better than Kerfoot would be asking a lot.

I'll let somebody else take the risk that he repeats his performance. you'd be just as well off going after somebody like Crouse with the much cheaper salary.

 

[ACC1224]

Cliff over the years got too much love for that one trade with flames for Gilmour

Otherwise his trading and signing players records are horrible.

On top of that, he's not even the pro scout. What were our pro scouts doing ?

I thought you double check cross check and go through gating system

I still cannot believe you sign the wrong player especially when one shoots left and other right

Even Kurt, what was he thinking? He was out of the league 3 years after

He’s still on the payroll as an advisor

 

[Menzinger]

Maybe I'm missing something, but I don't see a really tough choice they need to make this season. Bringing back Nick Paul seems obvious. The only decision seems to be whether they move Killorn out or allow Palat to walk as a UFA.

Think it comes.down to how they eventually end up replacing the contract(s) they move out while still being competitive. Paying Paul will mean a weaker D core ect.

 

[ToneDog]

Scott Wedgewood signs extension with the Stars (2 years, $1M AAV)​

Sabres re-sign G Craig Anderson (1 year, $1.5M AAV)​

 

[jaric1862]

How much does Husso get? The Ullmark contract?

 

[Stephen]

We'll have to see what Tampa expects in return, or what they are willing to take back. While McDonagh is currently a very good blueliner, this situation still involves a lot of money, term and a complete say on his part as to where he ends up.

$6.7 million is a pure no go for McDonagh. Let them stew in cap hell with physically beat up players on a past championship run core.

 

[ToneDog]

How much does Husso get? The Ullmark contract?

Dreiger deal is fair.

 

[Stephen]

Maybe I'm missing something, but I don't see a really tough choice they need to make this season. Bringing back Nick Paul seems obvious. The only decision seems to be whether they move Killorn out or allow Palat to walk as a UFA.

I would assume if they did nothing they would just have to lose Palat, Paul and their assistant coach, but if they're moving McDonagh I guess they want to be more proactive with their cap management. Similar to the Muzzin situation (though I expect Toronto to take a less proactive role on that front).

 

[ULF_55]

Scott Wedgewood signs extension with the Stars (2 years, $1M AAV)​

Sabres re-sign G Craig Anderson (1 year, $1.5M AAV)​

So his agent wasn't hearing anything above $1mm?

What's that say about the goalie market?

 

[ToneDog]

So his agent wasn't hearing anything above $1mm?

What's that say about the goalie market?

Too early to predict based on these two resigning with their old club. Two less options though.

 

[Americanadian]

He had 23 of his 47 points in a 14 game stretch in which he shot 31% and his linemates also shot over 20% while playing about the same amount of ice time as Nylander or Tavares.

Florida's offense as a whole was unsustainable but Marchment's prpduction especially during that stretch was a flash in the pan and to expect it to continue, or for him to be better than Kerfoot would be asking a lot.

I'll let somebody else take the risk that he repeats his performance. you'd be just as well off going after somebody like Crouse with the much cheaper salary.

1. You are cherrypicking his shooting percentage from 25% of his season. He is not the first good player in the NHL to go on a 14 game hot streak. His end of season shooting percentage was 14.9% which is not unheard of.

Edit: because your numbers were wrong I had to look it up. Lundell shot 18.5% during this time frame (5g/9a/14p), Reinhart shot 12.5% (6g/12a/18p). 18.5 and 12.5 are both less than 20. You were correct about Marchment's SH% which proves you looked it up. Don't know how you messed up all the other numbers.

If he didn't play with those 2 during that stretch I apologize. No other panther shot above 20% during that time frame though.

2. During that 14 game stretch he averaged 14:16/game. Tavares and Nylander both average over 18 minutes/game this year. If you are going to make up stats don't be 30% off.

3. Outside of that stretch he put up 24 points in 40 games which is 0.6 P/G which is higher than Kerfoot's career average of 0.51 P/G. Kerfoot just put up 0.62 P/G in his career season to Marchment's 0.87 P/G. Comparing him to Kerfoot is like comparing Tom Wilson to Tyler Bozak.

4. Crouse is very likely going to get a higher AAV than Marchment and his cost of acquisition will be ridiculous. They are only 2 years apart in age and Crouse's career high P/G is 0.52.

5. He brings value outside of just points. He was 3rd among forwards in the NHL this year in defensive WAR/60.

 

[Fogelhund]

Your memory must be short. Sandin was playing just as well as Liljegren last season before he got injured. Everyone here is convinced Liljegren is a top 4 or will be this season, but Sandin who is younger and just as good will somehow stagnate and not progress. Sandins floor is a top 4 D, McLeod peak is a great 3 c. Young defense with potential for more then a 4d should never be traded for a 3c no matter how good.

No short memory at all. Lilj is a better D, and always has been, it’s people with short term time horizons who viewed it differently when Sandin was up before Lilj. Anyone who watched the Marlies much knows this. Sandin has some serious question marks with his mobility. He’s got a great brain for the game, but at best he’s a top 4, and not a top pairing D. If his skating can’t be improved, he won’t make top 4. A #4D, for a 3C is decent value. Neither guy has reached that potential yet. Currently we have a surplus of LD, and a shortage of quality C. Noting, I stated from the beginning this wouldn’t be a 1:1 deal, with more coming back to us.

 

[al secord]

No soup for us.

 

[Dreakmur]

I would assume if they did nothing they would just have to lose Palat, Paul and their assistant coach, but if they're moving McDonagh I guess they want to be more proactive with their cap management. Similar to the Muzzin situation (though I expect Toronto to take a less proactive role on that front).

They have 5.65 million in cap space with 2 goalies, 6 defensemen, and 10 forwards returning from their play-off run.

 

[Dreakmur]

Think it comes.down to how they eventually end up replacing the contract(s) they move out while still being competitive. Paying Paul will mean a weaker D core ect.

Seems a bit much to unload a top-20 defenseman in the league when you don't need the cap space until the 2023 off-season.

 

[Americanadian]

They have 5.65 million in cap space with 2 goalies, 6 defensemen, and 10 forwards returning from their play-off run.

Everyone overlooks the Seabrook contract. Media included. They'll be fine. They could move Killorn and probably get an asset back then bring Palat (5M) and Paul (3.5M) back, promote Barre-Boulet and still have ~0.85M to spare. I see a perfect trade partner with the Islanders too where they trade Killorn for Mayfield. Both impending UFA's. Islanders get the most Islander player that isn't currently on their team, Tampa gets a perfect 2/3 RD at <1.5M.

 

[Dreakmur]

Everyone overlooks the Seabrook contract. Media included. They'll be fine. They could move Killorn and probably get an asset back then bring Palat (5M) and Paul (3.5M) back and still have ~0.85M to spare. I see a perfect trade partner with the Islanders too where they trade Killorn for Mayfield. Both impending UFA's. Islanders get the most Islander player that isn't currently on their team, Tampa gets a perfect 2/3 RD at <1.5M.

They could move Killorn and sign Palat, but then they're in trouble next year. Sergachev, Cernak, Cirelli are all up in 2023.

Moving their primary match-up defenseman would really hurt their play-off chances next year.

 

[Americanadian]

They could move Killorn and sign Palat, but then they're in trouble next year. Sergachev, Cernak, Cirelli are all up in 2023.

Moving their primary match-up defenseman would really hurt their play-off chances next year.

They could realistically move out Sergachev next year, use his money to give raises to Cirelli and Cernak and get a solid roster player on ELC in return for Sergachev similar to how they got Sergachev in the first place.