Trade and Free Agency Thread - 2021/22 - Post Deadline

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The plan outline for the off season.
Get a top 6/middle 6 forward. How many times do we have to score 0 or 1 goals in big games to realize we need more scoring? Maybe it involves trading Nylander but you need to improve the offense.
Solve the goaltending. Whether thats resigning Campbell or something else thats a big priority. Find a way to get rid of Mrazek's contract. He's better than he showed but a 3.8 with our structure makes no sense.
For the back end, I think the best plan to start the year is give the younger guys big roles. Let Lyb walk and resign Gio. Figure out if you want to keep Muzzin or trade him. I'm fine either way. Trade Holl for a pick or two. Keefe has shown even with average D core like when he first got here, he can make them competent defensively. If you realize an upgrade is needed, you do that at the deadline
 
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Id like to see a deal like Nylander + for Chychrun and Lawson crouse. It’s exactly what this team needs.
 
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The plan outline for the off season.
Get a top 6/middle 6 forward. How many times do we have to score 0 or 1 goals in big games to realize we need more scoring? Maybe it involves trading Nylander but you need to improve the offense.
Solve the goaltending. Whether thats resigning Campbell or something else thats a big priority. Find a way to get rid of Mrazek's contract. He's better than he showed but a 3.8 with our structure makes no sense.
For the back end, I think the best plan to start the year is give the younger guys big roles. Let Lyb walk and resign Gio. Figure out if you want to keep Muzzin or trade him. I'm fine either way. Trade Holl for a pick or two. Keefe has shown even with average D core like when he first got here, he can make them competent defensively. If you realize an upgrade is needed, you do that at the deadline

Mrazek has a No movement clause. He's not going anywhere
 
The plan outline for the off season.
Get a top 6/middle 6 forward. How many times do we have to score 0 or 1 goals in big games to realize we need more scoring? Maybe it involves trading Nylander but you need to improve the offense.
Solve the goaltending. Whether thats resigning Campbell or something else thats a big priority. Find a way to get rid of Mrazek's contract. He's better than he showed but a 3.8 with our structure makes no sense.
For the back end, I think the best plan to start the year is give the younger guys big roles. Let Lyb walk and resign Gio. Figure out if you want to keep Muzzin or trade him. I'm fine either way. Trade Holl for a pick or two. Keefe has shown even with average D core like when he first got here, he can make them competent defensively. If you realize an upgrade is needed, you do that at the deadline

I don't think it necessarily needs to come from a "scorer" though. Our big guns did show up (for the most part, it was still a little bit inconsistent but it was no different for the other side and various other top players in the playoffs this year), but it was Nick Paul who was ultimately able to find a way to put a few in. Nick Paul is not a guy you count on to score goals. We can even look at a guy like David Kampf, who only had 2 goals in 7 games (which were also his only two points), but they were some timely goals.

Three things I would like to focus on:
1) Giving the 4th line an identity. Blackwell, Spezza, and Kase were not necessarily "bad", and Spezza did bring value to the locker room, but on the ice, it was pretty much like their job was to kill time until other guys came on. That is not really an identity and it doesn't cut it in the playoffs IMO.

2) Giving everyone a special teams role, including the 4th line. No more being satisfied playing 8 ES minutes and then calling it a night. 2 PP units is 10 players, 2 PK units is 8 players. That is 18 skaters if there is no overlap between the units. Now we are a team that uses Marner on the PK, and I think that is fine, but I think we also saw Keefe use 3 pairs of forwards on the PK anyways so that accounts for some of the overlap involving guys like Marner.

Rielly/Sandin are your PP QB's. Bunting, Matthews, Marner, Nylander, Tavares are 5/8 of your PP forwards. One of the last 3 spots likely goes to the new top 6 guy, and the other 2 can go to Engvall, Kase, or the 4th liners (which could include Spezza or Anderson). We could also run some 2 D looks. On PK, we still have Marner, Kampf, Engvall, Kase. Anderson could be another guy who overlaps between PK and PP, and one of the other 4th liners we add will likely have to be a PKer.

3) Finding a new 2LW for Tavares' line has to be less about finding a guy who is good in isolation, and therefore more pricey, and more about a guy who can compliment Tavares properly. The past few years, Tavares has had a tendency to just do all of the heavy lifting on his line in terms of fighting in front of the net and winning puck battles. That is great, but he needs someone on his line who can do the same and allow Tavares to get into space as much as possible so he can still use his skill and goal-scoring ability. Tavares has been playing like a glorified Hyman far too often because nobody (especially Nylander) was really willing or able to do what he could do in tight areas. I think it is still important for Tavares to do that, but he was tougher to stop when he was also able to play around the hashmarks a little bit and forced Tampa to constantly change how they covered him, rather than constantly making it a wrestling match.

IDK who makes the most sense from a contract perspective, but a guy like Niederreiter would probably make the most sense. He is not a guy who should really command any kind of eye-popping contract after effectively pacing for 20 goals and 45 points over the past 3 years (with an even more disappointing playoff record) and is entering his 30's, but he could play off well with Tavares and Nylander on a 2nd line. It is not going to be one of those lines that looks for stretch passes and breakaways unless Nylander is the one doing it, because Niederreiter and Tavares have never had that kind of blistering speed, but they will cycle the crap out of you and that is a different look for teams to have to handle.
 
I don't think the Leafs seriously consider a buyout for him, and I don't think having him on the books vs. off of the books is going to make any difference for what players ask from us. They will use that contract, and the contracts of other teams, all the same.

I think the general sentiment around Leafs fans is that he is just going to continue being an .890 goalie going forward. I don't think Leafs management shares that same sentiment. I think they still value him like a reliable .910 tandem starter, which means they also think he makes appropriate money, so short of completely changing the dynamic of the goaltending from 1A/1B back to a starter-backup system, having major concerns about Mrazek's groin injuries this past year, or simply getting an offer they can't refuse from another team, then I think they are more than fine keeping Mrazek on this team next year.

His buyout cap hit for this year would be 1.1 mill effectively. You are likely looking at 2 mill to get even a mediocre reliable veteran backup in UFA, so you are realistically looking at maybe 750k in cap savings between his dead cap and finding a suitable replacement for Mrazek. However, you also have the dead cap for 3 years after that too, and you have no guarantees that the replacement you bring in doesn't end up sucking just as bad as Mrazek... I mean Mrazek had a fairly clean bill of health and has had a fairly steady and reliable career as a 1B. If he can suddenly suffer from 12 weeks of groin injuries without any prior history, and have his save percentage drop 20 points from his usual, why can't anyone else we bring in?

It makes more sense for the Leafs to run with Mrazek and if he completely sucks or gets hurt again, the Leafs have Woll and Kallgren in the wings to potentially step up and take over just like they did this year or they have to pay another mid-round pick at the TDL. Then next year, it is only 800k in dead cap plus another 1.4 mill the year after if we want to buy him out, or it is only 1 year of a contract we need to move, which is probably a lot easier than finding a taker for 2 years assuming nobody wants him right now.
Ah okay thanks for all the info, higher buyout this year than I expected. I figure a goalie who is coming in to be the starter probably won't want to make less than Mzarek as a backup. Definitely important to look at other contracts across the league etc however there is also an internal cap structure within each team generally.

Ya I get the idea of running with Mzarek as a backup until the TDL and then replacing him if need be. Probably a good path forward. I wondered if the buyout was around 1.5 million that Kessel retention would cover it and you would be good to grab another goalie.
 
Maybe it involves trading Nylander but you need to improve the offense.
If you want more goals, why trade the third-highest point-getter on the team?

I get that the money he is being paid could be used to better balance the lineup. I don't see him being traded for better scoring though. Seems like a lateral move to me.
 
If you want more goals, why trade the third-highest point-getter on the team?

I get that the money he is being paid could be used to better balance the lineup. I don't see him being traded for better scoring though. Seems like a lateral move to me.
Ideally you'd want a #1 goalie or minute-eating 2-way d-man in return. But those are harder to get.
 
If they buyout this summer, it's 4 years of dead money (until 2026). It isn't high dead money, but dead money into the Matthews/Marner re-signings is a non-starter to me. The last 2 years are 1.43M cap hits.

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If the Leafs can't find a single taker for Mrazek this off-season, the Leafs should really just waive him and keep him for at least 1 more season and hope he rebounds. Alternatively, they could retain ~1M on Mrazek and hope that makes people want him more. Retention in this case is so much better than a buyout.

His buyout NEXT off-season (2023) is better. The dead money is only until 2025 (2 years), but the last year is 1.46M as well... which is still not great.

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Thanks for the info. Looking like it's best to not buy him out, hope he rebounds and ship him out next summer or if he rebounds well enough keep him.

I wonder if that makes the leafs more cautious in committing to another goalie longer term as if he does rebound you might have to much cap tied up with goalies

Can't see them buying him out.
At worse he gives them a little leverage over Campbell.
Thats fair though I think Campbell will also leverage Mzarek's AAV possibly too
 
Thanks for the info. Looking like it's best to not buy him out, hope he rebounds and ship him out next summer or if he rebounds well enough keep him.

I wonder if that makes the leafs more cautious in committing to another goalie longer term as if he does rebound you might have to much cap tied up with goalies


Thats fair though I think Campbell will also leverage Mzarek's AAV possibly too
True enough he certainly could.
 
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If you want more goals, why trade the third-highest point-getter on the team?

I get that the money he is being paid could be used to better balance the lineup. I don't see him being traded for better scoring though. Seems like a lateral move to me.
I meant more as in multiple pieces for him, but I do agree with your point though
 
Id like to see a deal like Nylander + for Chychrun and Lawson crouse. It’s exactly what this team needs.
With Muzzin (33), Brodie (32), and Giordano (39 at camp), it's worth considering.

The blueline will need another retool very, very soon, unless you want to build a foundation around inexperienced Niemela, Liljegren, Sandin and one-dimensional Rielly. You need an athletically gifted, bigger two-way D in your core.
 
Thanks for the info. Looking like it's best to not buy him out, hope he rebounds and ship him out next summer or if he rebounds well enough keep him.

I wonder if that makes the leafs more cautious in committing to another goalie longer term as if he does rebound you might have to much cap tied up with goalies


Thats fair though I think Campbell will also leverage Mzarek's AAV possibly too

I think Mrazek is keeping Woll's seat warm for 2023-2024. Woll has one more year of waiver-exemption and one more two-way year which he can spend as our #3 on the Marlies. I think that is how the Leafs always planned for it to go down regardless of how Mrazek did (I guess short of being a total world-beater), and Kallgren is effectively there as insurance.
 
Idk how much he gonna get in Free Agency but looking at some of the higher tier talent in this FA class I think I'd only be interested in Forsberg tbh.

Niedereitter
Domi
Burakovsky
Nichuskin
Copp

These are some of the others who might be good addidtions for cheaper. Obviously who knows if any of these guys even become free agents because maybe they re sign with their current teams, but I do think these players could help Tavares. Probably many names I didn't list because I only looked at the 1st page of FA listed on capfriendly.
 
Idk how much he gonna get in Free Agency but looking at some of the higher tier talent in this FA class I think I'd only be interested in Forsberg tbh.

Niedereitter
Domi
Burakovsky
Nichuskin
Copp

These are some of the others who might be good addidtions for cheaper. Obviously who knows if any of these guys even become free agents because maybe they re sign with their current teams, but I do think these players could help Tavares. Probably many names I didn't list because I only looked at the 1st page of FA listed on capfriendly.

A lot of those guys won't be cheap, and I don't see Domi being a big help for a guy like Tavares.
 
So I am a little new to the Trade forums, but I just had someone straight faced off this:

Miller @ 50%, OEL and Dickenson

for

Marner, Sandin and Liljegren

Is this normal? lol
 
A lot of those guys won't be cheap, and I don't see Domi being a big help for a guy like Tavares.
He's a good playmaker. I'd prefer someone who is better along the boards and tougher around the net but I think he's a pretty good option if he's cheaper than the others.
 
He's a good playmaker. I'd prefer someone who is better along the boards and tougher around the net but I think he's a pretty good option if he's cheaper than the others.
Domi is a feisty fella. That’s the kind of player we want when playoffs comes around. You’ll notice him even when he’s not scoring. Domi knows what it means to win in Toronto. Sign me up for bringing him on board!
 
The plan outline for the off season.
Get a top 6/middle 6 forward. How many times do we have to score 0 or 1 goals in big games to realize we need more scoring? Maybe it involves trading Nylander but you need to improve the offense.
Solve the goaltending. Whether thats resigning Campbell or something else thats a big priority. Find a way to get rid of Mrazek's contract. He's better than he showed but a 3.8 with our structure makes no sense.
For the back end, I think the best plan to start the year is give the younger guys big roles. Let Lyb walk and resign Gio. Figure out if you want to keep Muzzin or trade him. I'm fine either way. Trade Holl for a pick or two. Keefe has shown even with average D core like when he first got here, he can make them competent defensively. If you realize an upgrade is needed, you do that at the deadline
1. A trade around Robertson + for Bertuzzi.
2. Sign Evander Kane in FA
3. Sign Boris Katchouk in FA
4. Sign Curtiz Lazar in FA
5. Bring one of either Blackwell or Spezza back.

Kane - Mathews - Marner
Bertuzzi - Tavares - Nylander
Bunting - Kampf - Marlies xxx
Katchouk - Blackwell/Spezza - Lazar
 
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1. A trade around Robertson + for Bertuzzi.
2. Sign Evander Kane in FA
3. Sign Boris Katchouk in FA
4. Sign Curtiz Lazar in FA
5. Bring one of either Blackwell or Spezza back.

Kane - Mathews - Marner
Bertuzzi - Tavares - Nylander
Bunting - Kampf - Marlies xxx
Katchouk - Blackwell/Spezza - Lazar
You’ve mentioned signing Katchouk several times. You realize he’s an RFA?
 
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