Trade and Free Agency Thread - 2021/22 - Post Deadline

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I wouldn’t pay him 3.5 million. Kerfoot was coming off two 40+ point seasons to start his NHL career when signing that contract. Paul at 27 just had his career year totalling at 32 points. He’s also a local guy so hopefully he takes a small little discount to sign here especially if we knock the Lightning out. 4 years at 2.5 million. Ideally we’d re-sign Mikheyev to a similar dollar figure and have a third line of Paul - Kampf - Mikheyev.
Agreed. Kerf>Paul and the contracts should reflect, but if we have to/choose to move Kerfoot, Paul would not be a bad option
 
My biggest question mark this off-season is Marchment. I really wonder how much he can get after 1 big season. I can see a big regression there, especially if he goes on a much weaker team. You'd think he can easily get anywhere between 4.5M and 6M depending on term... right? Maybe he opts for a 1 year extension for like 3M and really cashes the following season?
 
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My biggest question mark this off-season is Marchment. I really wonder how much he can get after 1 big season. I can see a big regression there, especially if he goes on a much weaker team. You'd think he can easily get anywhere between 4.5M and 6M depending on term... right?
I could see Florida retaining him for a little less than 4.5m, but yea he could go for anything between 4.5m-6m easy on the open market.
 
I could see Florida retaining him for a little less than 4.5m, but yea he could go for anything between 4.5m-6m easy on the open market.

They can't afford him at all even at a discount unless they are able to trade Hornqvist without taking any salary back. But even then it doesn't feel like they can. In 2 years they have to re-sign Huberdeau and Weegar.
 
They can't afford him at all even at a discount unless they are able to trade Hornqvist without taking any salary back. But even then it doesn't feel like they can. In 2 years they have to re-sign Huberdeau and Weegar.
With only one year left, I can imagine Florida should be able to move Hornqvist to a middling team that can use him if they stay in the hunt or flip and sell him if they fall out. Like a Los Angeles
 
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I wouldn’t be too comfortable giving Marchment anything more than 3 million on a one or two year deal. Show me this year wasn’t just a fluke. But I also don’t see him leaving Florida given how much success he’s had there so far and if he leaves it definitely wouldn’t be to Toronto who gave up on him even if Dubas did right and traded him away for a better opportunity.
 
They can't afford him at all even at a discount unless they are able to trade Hornqvist without taking any salary back. But even then it doesn't feel like they can. In 2 years they have to re-sign Huberdeau and Weegar.

Unique situation in that he's a right shot D that plays LD with Ekblad when Ekblad is healthy.

Their depth is really good at RD...LD is so-so.

Wonder if they'd be willing to explore a trade of either Ekblad or Weegar? I'd be interested in either one, although Weegar would need to come with an extension.
 
Unique situation in that he's a right shot D that plays LD with Ekblad when Ekblad is healthy.

Their depth is really good at RD...LD is so-so.

Wonder if they'd be willing to explore a trade of either Ekblad or Weegar? I'd be interested in either one, although Weegar would need to come with an extension.
Weegar is someone I have constantly clamoured for, and lament we didn’t push harder when the framework of a trade involving AJ, before he was moved to NJ.

A player like Weegar puts the partner for Rielly dilemma to rest, and allows us to make a final decision on moving Holl and potentially Boosh, and let’s Liljegren finally slot in full time.

I think it is our single biggest priority in the off-season, along with solidifying our crease situation……
 
I could see Florida retaining him for a little less than 4.5m, but yea he could go for anything between 4.5m-6m easy on the open market.
Any team that signs him to that may god help them. He went on a crazy and unrepeatable bender for 15-20 games this year.

Has all the makings of an extremely bad idea.
 
Nick Paul should be a target. Idk how much he's gonna end up getting but he's an elite bottom 6 forward who can move up and down the lineup.

He's really impressed me in this Series
 
Nick Paul should be a target. Idk how much he's gonna end up getting but he's an elite bottom 6 forward who can move up and down the lineup.

He's really impressed me in this Series

He's going to cost to much for us

If we're struggling to keep Mikheyev because of the cap I don't see how it won't be a serious problem with Paul to
 
My biggest question mark this off-season is Marchment. I really wonder how much he can get after 1 big season. I can see a big regression there, especially if he goes on a much weaker team. You'd think he can easily get anywhere between 4.5M and 6M depending on term... right? Maybe he opts for a 1 year extension for like 3M and really cashes the following season?
I get why you would think that based on his lack of resume, but watching some Panthers games this season, I could see him continuing to be a 50-60pt (pace) player moving forward. His points are not coming off of garbage cleanup.

His skill level is legit underrated, esp. his shot and hands. Silky smooth with the puck and deceptive release. More skilled with the puck than Bunting, for instance.

I think he's a 4m player at worst moving forward.

Been painful as hell watching him develop at an insane arc. Funny enough, I could see him being a wicked fit for JT-Nylander.
 
I get why you would think that based on his lack of resume, but watching some Panthers games this season, I could see him continuing to be a 50-60pt (pace) player moving forward. His points are not coming off of garbage cleanup.

His skill level is legit underrated, esp. his shot and hands. Silky smooth with the puck and deceptive release. More skilled with the puck than Bunting, for instance.

I think he's a 4m player at worst moving forward.

Been painful as hell watching him develop at an insane arc. Funny enough, I could see him being a wicked fit for JT-Nylander.
He had a crazy/unsustainable shooting bender for about 20 games this year and his skating still needs a tonne of work. I would be extremely wary.

Could he be that player? Sure. Is it likely? no, not really. Any team willing to bet term on that better do their homework.
 
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He's going to cost to much for us

If we're struggling to keep Mikheyev because of the cap I don't see how it won't be a serious problem with Paul to
Lots of ways you can fit both Paul and Mikheyev in. I think Kerfoot gets moved for multiple draft picks. Then you also have Muzzin, Mrazek and Holl who ideally we can move.
 
You say goodbye to Kerfoot and ideally Muzzin and Mrazek.

Not sure why anyone would want Muzzin traded with how he's playing right now. Quite clearly still a very good top 4 defenseman that is actually good and physical.

Kerfoots gone. Mrazek hopefully is gone. That should be enough to re-up everyone but probably not enough to keep Mikheyev.

If the Leafs choke again, I think the list of players grows exponentially though... Muzzin included.
 
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My biggest question mark this off-season is Marchment. I really wonder how much he can get after 1 big season. I can see a big regression there, especially if he goes on a much weaker team. You'd think he can easily get anywhere between 4.5M and 6M depending on term... right? Maybe he opts for a 1 year extension for like 3M and really cashes the following season?

I think someone will offer him something close to the Anderson contract. Way out of our range unless we're offloading a big name.

Paul to me just seems ok. I would hate overpay him, then watch him accumulate 10g and 15 apples each year. I think he will also be out of our range.

A lot of the moves I have in mind really hinge on Gio - if Gio wants to stay for 2m or so, then I think we can do some interesting things. Boosh is almost definitely gone. I don't think he's played his way into a contract offer.
 
Lots of ways you can fit both Paul and Mikheyev in. I think Kerfoot gets moved for multiple draft picks. Then you also have Muzzin, Mrazek and Holl who ideally we can move.

Kerfoot has shown he has the ability to fill multiple positions up front which has value and Keefe is leaning on Holl and Muzzin right now in our playoff run so I'm not sure the organization would trade any of them for those other two guys

Mrazek should go but that could be pretty painful as well, almost 4M over 2 years won't be cheap to dump I'm thinking
 
Marchment, Paul, Weegar.... Good players, no question. But these are the types of guys we as fans want, and hope for. Meanwhile, Dubas is looking for guys that aren't at that level... yet... He's looking for a Bunting, Kampf, Kase, Lyubushkin... guys that are a little under the radar, that won't cost as much to obtain, and won't cost as much on the cap.

The guys Dubas is most likely to obtain, isn't the one who has succeeded already, and will be paid well, he'll be the guy Dubas hopes will become that next player to be like that. Maybe a Comtois, coming off a bad season, and having players jumped over him in the lineup...
 
Marchment, Paul, Weegar.... Good players, no question. But these are the types of guys we as fans want, and hope for. Meanwhile, Dubas is looking for guys that aren't at that level... yet... He's looking for a Bunting, Kampf, Kase, Lyubushkin... guys that are a little under the radar, that won't cost as much to obtain, and won't cost as much on the cap.

The guys Dubas is most likely to obtain, isn't the one who has succeeded already, and will be paid well, he'll be the guy Dubas hopes will become that next player to be like that. Maybe a Comtois, coming off a bad season, and having players jumped over him in the lineup...
Great post Fogelhund.

I would be interested in a guy like Katchouk, who was dealt to Chi in the Chicago deal. Signed @ 760k for 2 more years. Hard worker, can skate well, showed offensive upside in junior.

Oh, did I mentioned he played in the Soo? Chicago seems to be a little all over the place right now, so no idea how they feel about him or what their wants are.
 
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The guys Dubas is most likely to obtain, isn't the one who has succeeded already, and will be paid well, he'll be the guy Dubas hopes will become that next player to be like that. Maybe a Comtois, coming off a bad season, and having players jumped over him in the lineup...
Who's the Bunting here?
 
Who's the Bunting here?

There are no Bunting's there TBH.

Zboril may become another Dermott. He is probably the most attractive, and I imagine Boston would have kept him had he not had his season-ending injury (which ultimately prevented him from getting enough games to stay as an RFA). I can see the Leafs liking him as a #7 depending on how the whole depth chart shakes out.

Joshua may attract some attention as a 4th line guy on a weaker team, but could be a good fit for a top 6 Marlies role if he has any interest in coming to the team that drafted him.

Brooks, Aho, and Lagesson could be solid AAAA depth somewhere, but I don't think I am trusting any of them to even be 13th forwards or 7th defenseman. More like top 6/4 AHLers who may get the occasional call-up, similar to Dahlstrom and Seney. Brooks may still make sense as the Marlies top line center next year if he wants to come back onto our depth chart, but I can see the Leafs targeting a guy like Mark Jankowski, Riley Sheahan, or Cedric Paquette as well.

You have a better shot at some non-tendered RFA's IMO.
 
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Who's the Bunting here?

Sebastian Aho would be a great signing. Clearly an NHL defenseman and the closest to Bunting levels of really making an impact. Our LHD depth is stacked though so not sure he'd sign with us.

Chase Priskie would be a good target. RHD that hasn't been given much of a chance.

Brett Seney should be retained by the Leafs. He was really good as depth and versatile. Reminded me a lot of Tyler Ennis but got injured in his NHL stint.

Ryan MacInnis is my "under the radar" Marlies addition. Has struggled at the NHL level but has had some really good AHL seasons. Could be a great Marlies add.
 
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