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Trade and Free Agency Thread - 2021/22 - Post Deadline

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Nylanderthal said:
And how did that work out for them when up against the leagues best and not just muffin Ottawa?
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Their better forwards were all fairly old but they were still a 100pt club pre loser point who made it 3 rounds deep. Never mind Marner/Matthews, sub in even Willie and they could have been there. This was a tough club to play against.

I loved Mats but he wasn't enough, even in the dead puck era to overcome a lineup where he was the only forward with over 24 goals. That was probably his last season as a game breaker and he spent the rest of his career waiting for them to add a complimentary talent who never came.
 
nuck said:
Their better forwards were all fairly old but they were still a 100pt club pre loser point who made it 3 rounds deep. Never mind Marner/Matthews, sub in even Willie and they could have been there. This was a tough club to play against.

I loved Mats but he wasn't enough, even in the dead puck era to overcome a lineup where he was the only forward with over 24 goals. That was probably his last season as a game breaker and he spent the rest of his career waiting for them to add a complimentary talent who never came.
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So not good enough?
 
BigFatCat999 said:
Have you guys heard rumors of a Nashville/Toronto trade?
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This late in the year seems unlikely that anything legit would be leaked. Teams might toy with the idea of a particular move next summer but I don't think they are really exploring anything until the playoffs reveal what their greatest issue is. Now there could have been a failed discussion pre-deadline but with two playoff clubs involved, who is the seller?
 
Kiwi said:
Haven't heard anything but I wouldn't be shocked if Myers holds some interest for the Leafs since you guys loaned him to us

What are you guys after?
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Myers has the extra bonus of when boughtout, the buyout team gets 610k of cap. I'm at the point of sorting puzzle pieces; Tolvanen and Kunin same like odd pieces. Kerfoot and Sandin?
 
Menzinger said:
Leafs are pretty high on Sandin. Not sure they'd be super interested in moving him this offseason
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I just have a feeling that there is going to be more. We are talking about big trade Dave Poile.

Also, if Nashville is going to give Toronto free 610K of cap along with taking Kerfoot's contract, there has to be SOMETHING coming from Toronto. Might just be Myers for a 7th and Toronto buys him out giving Toronto 610K

As a fan, I'd like an upgrade on Tolvanen on LW. Kunin might be on the block too.
 
BigFatCat999 said:
I just have a feeling that there is going to be more. We are talking about big trade Dave Poile.

Also, if Nashville is going to give Toronto free 610K of cap along with taking Kerfoot's contract, there has to be SOMETHING coming from Toronto. Might just be Myers for a 7th and Toronto buys him out giving Toronto 610K

As a fan, I'd like an upgrade on Tolvanen on LW. Kunin might be on the block too.
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That's not how it works. Nashville would get the cap credit of $616k next season if they buyout Myers, not Toronto. Nashville would have a cap penalty of around $633k the following season.

If Nashville buys out Myers, the Leafs will likely sign him as there seems to be mutual interest with the loan.

Toronto isn't sending anything to Nashville for Nashville to buy out Myers.

I don't see a situation where the Leafs trade an asset to buyout Myers for the cap credit, seeing as it has a cap penalty the following year.
 
LeafChief said:
That's not how it works. Nashville would get the cap credit of $616k next season if they buyout Myers, not Toronto. Nashville would have a cap penalty of around $633k the following season.

If Nashville buys out Myers, the Leafs will likely sign him as there seems to be mutual interest with the loan.

Toronto isn't sending anything to Nashville for Nashville to buy out Myers.
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If true, ok. Not the first time I have been wrong. LOL
 
BigFatCat999 said:
If true, ok. Not the first time I have been wrong. LOL
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You're not entirely wrong. The cap credit exists. You also mentioned that Toronto would trade for Myers and then buy him out which I missed initially so my mistake as well.

I think what likely ends up happening is Nashville buys out Myers and the Leafs sign him at around league minimum as a 7th defenceman with the chance to move up depending on how he plays.
 
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LeafChief said:
You're not entirely wrong. The cap credit exists. You also mentioned that Toronto would trade for Myers and then buy him out which I missed initially so my mistake as well.

I think what likely ends up happening is Nashville buys out Myers and the Leafs sign him at around league minimum as a 7th defenceman with the chance to move up depending on how he plays.
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Agreed.
 
BigFatCat999 said:
I just have a feeling that there is going to be more. We are talking about big trade Dave Poile.

Also, if Nashville is going to give Toronto free 610K of cap along with taking Kerfoot's contract, there has to be SOMETHING coming from Toronto. Might just be Myers for a 7th and Toronto buys him out giving Toronto 610K

As a fan, I'd like an upgrade on Tolvanen on LW. Kunin might be on the block too.
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We aren't paying anyone to take Kerfoot's contract. There is nothing coming from Toronto, and there would have to be something very worthwhile coming from Nashville if they want us to even remotely consider it... And it has to be a lot better than Kunin and Tolvanen. A pair of struggling young players who don't really have a defined role and would have to compete with various prospects we already have for playing time is not exactly attractive to the Leafs.

Myers has negative value. He may have the credit next year, but he is 633k of dead cap the year after. Plus if we want him in our organization next year, we can't buy him out and sign him.
 
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SeaOfBlue said:
We aren't paying anyone to take Kerfoot's contract. There is nothing coming from Toronto, and there would have to be something very worthwhile coming from Nashville if they want us to even remotely consider it... And it has to be a lot better than Kunin and Tolvanen. A pair of struggling young players who don't really have a defined role and would have to compete with various prospects we already have for playing time is not exactly attractive to the Leafs.

Myers has negative value. He may have the credit next year, but he is 633k of dead cap the year after. Plus if we want him in our organization next year, we can't buy him out and sign him.
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I sense anger.
 
BigFatCat999 said:
I just have a feeling that there is going to be more. We are talking about big trade Dave Poile.

Also, if Nashville is going to give Toronto free 610K of cap along with taking Kerfoot's contract, there has to be SOMETHING coming from Toronto. Might just be Myers for a 7th and Toronto buys him out giving Toronto 610K

As a fan, I'd like an upgrade on Tolvanen on LW. Kunin might be on the block too.
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Kerfoot is valued by the Leafs front office. Of his 51 points this season, 47 are from even strength. Plus he PKs.

I don't see them paying anyone to take him even if they opt to try and trade him
 
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BigFatCat999 said:
I sense anger.
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Knowing that poster, no there’s 0 hostility it’s just facts of the situation they’re telling you.
Menzinger said:
Kerfoot is valued by the Leafs front office. Of his 51 points this season, 47 are from even strength. Plus he PKs.

I don't see them paying anyone to take him even if they opt to try and trade him
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See above
 
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Menzinger said:
Kerfoot is valued by the Leafs front office. Of his 51 points this season, 47 are from even strength. Plus he PKs.

I don't see them paying anyone to take him even if they opt to try and trade him
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Fairly sure the other 4 points come from PK goals too.
 
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