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Dragao6 said:
U remember when leafs fans were going nuts about goalie situation

Well that stopped when kallgren started playing
Again no superstar but I’m very comfortable with him
Very solid
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Yeah............ I don't know where you got that idea but you are wrong that most certinaly did not stop with Kallgren

It's exactly the same if not worse because his GAA is almost 3 and his save% is under 900.

Kallgren has done nothing to make fans less nervous
 
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Dragao6 said:
U remember when leafs fans were going nuts about goalie situation

Well that stopped when kallgren started playing
Again no superstar but I’m very comfortable with him
Very solid
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They most certainly still have issues in net. They're a Campbell injury away from going into the playoffs with their 5th string goalie playing.

Campbell has looked okay since his return but he hasn't looked fantastic.
 
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Seems impossible that Mrazek is back with the Leafs. I think they'll want to terminate that relationship as soon as they can, however they can. Probably will bite them a bit in the butt since Mrazek might bounce back but... what a disaster that was.

Kallgren and Woll is decent depth. Petruzzelli will probably be signed to an ELC as well, which will give us another solid option. I'd gamble with any of these 3 to battle out for the back-up job. The big problem is that none of the goaltenders can stay healthy to the point of frustration.

As for options, I'd keep an eye on tweeners like DeSmith, Koskinen, Hellberg, Sateri, Wedgewood, Comrie, etc to see who'd want to battle it out for a back-up/3rd stringer role. I'd stay far away from expensive options at this time... goaltenders are voodoo.
 
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Jake Allen retained 50% as a 1b wouldn't be a bad option. Or Vladar at 750k but not much incentive for CGY to move him. Possibly Varlamov?

I'm just not sold on Campbell for next year but there aren't any clear upgrades available other than Darcy Kuemper if he manages to shake free.
 
SprDaVE said:
Seems impossible that Mrazek is back with the Leafs. I think they'll want to terminate that relationship as soon as they can, however they can. Probably will bite them a bit in the butt since Mrazek might bounce back but... what a disaster that was.

Kallgren and Woll is decent depth. Petruzzelli will probably be signed to an ELC as well, which will give us another solid option. I'd gamble with any of these 3 to battle out for the back-up job. The big problem is that none of the goaltenders can stay healthy to the point of frustration.

As for options, I'd keep an eye on tweeners like DeSmith, Koskinen, Hellberg, Sateri, Wedgewood, Comrie, etc to see who'd want to battle it out for a back-up/3rd stringer role. I'd stay far away from expensive options at this time... goaltenders are voodoo.
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Mrazek definitely will be gone. Will come down if the Leafs can trade him without much of a sweetner.

I think Campbell ends up signing a cheap 1 or 2 year deal and the Leafs look to maybe bring in another cheap option either in free agency or trade.
 
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Menzinger said:
Mrazek definitely will be gone. Will come down if the Leafs can trade him without much of a sweetner.

I think Campbell ends up signing a cheap 1 or 2 year deal and the Leafs look to maybe bring in another cheap option either in free agency or trade.
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I'd give Campbell a Vejmelka contract, 2.5-3M per for 3-4 years. 2 years would be ideal though. I don't think he'll take a 1 year.
 
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SprDaVE said:
I'd give Campbell a Vejmelka contract, 2.5-3M per for 3-4 years. 2 years would be ideal though. I don't think he'll take a 1 year.
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at the moment I think Campbell is heading towards (like you suggest) a cheaper version of the Mzarek deal. Though I could potentially see his agent gamble on an 1-2 year cheap deal to see if he can rebound and then maybe be back to a 4-6 mil deal longer term (that he was likely heading towards earlier in the season(.
 
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If we want to be a little more ambitious with the goaltending position, I wouldn't mind taking a run at Ville Husso as a UFA investment. I think he's bluechip. Kind of reminds me of Rask with his combination of athleticism, size and calm technique.
 
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Stephen said:
If we want to be a little more ambitious with the goaltending position, I wouldn't mind taking a run at Ville Husso as a UFA investment. I think he's bluechip. Kind of reminds me of Rask with his combination of athleticism, size and calm technique.
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I think he'll get a Driedger level contract. Might be a tough one to sign.
 
SprDaVE said:
I think he'll get a Driedger level contract. Might be a tough one to sign.
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Yep 3.5 x 3 probably. I love jack he has 1 potential but he is injury prone and seems like his mental game isn’t strong.

Not sure who would be a good partner for him. I would be good with kalgren with like a Gibson. But not sure I would want him with Campbell.

If Campbell falters we have to get a starter like gibby
 
Legion34 said:
Yep 3.5 x 3 probably. I love jack he has 1 potential but he is injury prone and seems like his mental game isn’t strong.

Not sure who would be a good partner for him. I would be good with kalgren with like a Gibson. But not sure I would want him with Campbell.

If Campbell falters we have to get a starter like gibby.
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I don't think they pay Campbell 3.5 to be a backup. If he doesn't find most of his game maybe 2.5 max. There will not be a bidding war for 2022 Jack. Kallgren is down to .899 which only looks okay compared to Mrazek so I don't see him penciled in anywhere tbh.

If Campbell doesn't have a solid playoff I think they move on from him as a starter. If he walks they can either buy out Mrazek at $1.433 x 3 or keep him for next year as he has a history of bad seasons followed by much better ones. $3.8M is too much for a backup but that might not matter if they find a cost controlled starter to keep the total G spend down, and if Mrazek bounces back he is tradeable for a positive return..

I'm not sure about Gibson. He has not been great the last three seasons (.904) and with Stolarz at .917 in 25 games, are we sure the Ducks D is really that bad? He could bounce back but imagine giving up real value for a $6.4M x 5 goalie with a NT and he really is just a .904 guy now. You would realistically need to entertain that as a possibility and with a bad goalie deal already it could be a cap killer.

The Leafs have no value contracts on the books at key positions so they need to add some wins and that probably means giving up more assets to get retention on any goalie deal or paying hard for a young goalie who is good plus cost controlled. They are not in a good spot at all, unless Jack bounces back big in the playoffs and they re-sign him on a club friendly deal thanks to his meltdown in the second half, which is certainly possible.
 
If you are going to get a goalie, then go get a goalie, go get Gibson if the Ducks look to move him, go get Varlamov, go get Blackwood.

Go get the guy that you believe can be the guy, enough with the question marks, this team can score at will go get them a goalie and make them unstopable because if they could get a save they would be.

and before I hear "we don't have the money."

look it's not pretty but it looks like both Marazek and Muzzin are headed to LTIRetiremnt

that's 9.3 million on LTIR

trade Kerfoot and Holl to clear their money.

I like Kerfoot a lot but Bunting has proven you can get guys to do what Kerfoot does for less than Kerfoot makes

there are ways to make the money work so get it done.
 
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Kerfoot has lived up to his potential. 49 points on the year plays 15 minutes a game. Almost all his points at Ev. More sh points then pp at that too. Bouncing around the lineup.

Wonder we from the roster this off season. Going to need some cap.
 
SprDaVE said:
Seems impossible that Mrazek is back with the Leafs. I think they'll want to terminate that relationship as soon as they can, however they can. Probably will bite them a bit in the butt since Mrazek might bounce back but... what a disaster that was.

Kallgren and Woll is decent depth. Petruzzelli will probably be signed to an ELC as well, which will give us another solid option. I'd gamble with any of these 3 to battle out for the back-up job. The big problem is that none of the goaltenders can stay healthy to the point of frustration.

As for options, I'd keep an eye on tweeners like DeSmith, Koskinen, Hellberg, Sateri, Wedgewood, Comrie, etc to see who'd want to battle it out for a back-up/3rd stringer role. I'd stay far away from expensive options at this time... goaltenders are voodoo.
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I'd really really want Comrie, i think he's still young and has good potential to be something good
 
LEAFANFORLIFE23 said:
If you are going to get a goalie, then go get a goalie, go get Gibson if the Ducks look to move him, go get Varlamov, go get Blackwood.

Go get the guy that you believe can be the guy, enough with the question marks, this team can score at will go get them a goalie and make them unstopable because if they could get a save they would be.

and before I hear "we don't have the money."

look it's not pretty but it looks like both Marazek and Muzzin are headed to LTIRetiremnt

that's 9.3 million on LTIR

trade Kerfoot and Holl to clear their money.

I like Kerfoot a lot but Bunting has proven you can get guys to do what Kerfoot does for less than Kerfoot makes

there are ways to make the money work so get it done.
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I couldn’t agree more. This team with an undisputed #1 is real scary.
 
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SprDaVE said:
Seems impossible that Mrazek is back with the Leafs. I think they'll want to terminate that relationship as soon as they can, however they can. Probably will bite them a bit in the butt since Mrazek might bounce back but... what a disaster that was.

Kallgren and Woll is decent depth. Petruzzelli will probably be signed to an ELC as well, which will give us another solid option. I'd gamble with any of these 3 to battle out for the back-up job. The big problem is that none of the goaltenders can stay healthy to the point of frustration.

As for options, I'd keep an eye on tweeners like DeSmith, Koskinen, Hellberg, Sateri, Wedgewood, Comrie, etc to see who'd want to battle it out for a back-up/3rd stringer role. I'd stay far away from expensive options at this time... goaltenders are voodoo.
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or have some guts and go get a real #1 and stop with the "goaltenders are voodoo" crap because in the vast majority of cases it's not true
 
LeafsOHLRangers98 said:
I wouldn't trade Sandin. We need him moving forward and he took huge leaps defensively this year on the 3rd pair to the point where he dominated matchups regardless of his partner.

The next step is continuing that progression in a top 4 role.

Remember that he is a year younger than Liljegren and was never really used in defensive situations with the Marlies until his last stint there.

Rielly-Liljegren
Sandin-Brodie

would be fine as a top 4 tos start next season if you bring back whichever mix you prefer for the bottom 2-4D and add Kral/Niemela to the mix.
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I don’t think you can have both Sandin and Liljegren playing top 4 minutes yet. One or the other sure, but not both. That said, I definitely think both can and should be on the team next season. I’d have Liljegren in a top 4 spot and I would continue to shelter Sandin a bit longer, let him offensively anchor the third pair

I probably see something like:
Rielly - Brodie
Gio - Liljegren
Sandin - Lyubushkin

** if Muzzin is out that is
 
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