Trade and Free Agency Thread - 2021/22 - Post Deadline

[Brobust]

On teams like Minnesota that has plenty Kerfoot players or Tampa, he's. People like you are so Homer's, your blind. If Minnesota trades fiala, Rossi takes over and they will only have one line, fourth line open

If Tampa loses nick Paul, Same thing. Stop being a blind homer. Minnesota and Tampa gm aren't stupid abd you are Pawning Kerfoot on them.

You're not doing your research, bro. Please do the research.

 

[Sebastien]

You're not doing your research, bro. Please do the research.

Sure dude, teams need Kerfoot even when certain teams have plenty like that. Homer's on here continues to overrate certain player's a d underrate player's like Nylander

Newsflash, you aren't getting a 1st round pick from Minnesota or Tampa fir Kerfoot. Never happening and you are dreaming if you think those teams will

 

[as Pure as Evil]

Wonder if quick would be a option. he had a pretty solid season and a not bad playoff series. Pretty sure he's on the last year of his deal

Would have to be the right deal tho. They have plenty of forward prospects we might get as a sweetner

 

[LeafChief]

I'm here for the dude-off.

 

[TML Dynasty]

I'm here for the dude-off.

Round one, research competition

 

[LeafChief]

Round one, research competition

No you look it up!

 

[as Pure as Evil]

Wonder if quick would be a option. he had a pretty solid season and a not bad playoff series. Pretty sure he's on the last year of his deal

Would have to be the right deal tho. They have plenty of forward prospects we might get as a sweetner

 

[LeafChief]

Wonder if quick would be a option. he had a pretty solid season and a not bad playoff series. Pretty sure he's on the last year of his deal

Would have to be the right deal tho. They have plenty of forward prospects we might get as a sweetner

Rather go MA Fleury if they're going for a cup winning vet.

 

[LeafSteel]

I'm here for the dude-off.

 

[Nylanderthal]

Wonder if quick would be a option. he had a pretty solid season and a not bad playoff series. Pretty sure he's on the last year of his deal

Would have to be the right deal tho. They have plenty of forward prospects we might get as a sweetner

Muzzin mrazek for quick and walker +\~ from either side to balance it out

 

[Hockey 4 Life]

I still think the kings would be the best trade option for Nylander.
To
Toronto
2022 1st 19th overall
2022 2nd 51st overall
Vilardi
Faber
Lee

To
Kings
Nylander
Sandin


We gain another first potentially letting us draft two of ohgren, Mcgroarty, and Bischel. A mid round 2nd for another prospect. Vilardi who can still be a top 6c, Faber who projects to be a top 4 shutdown d and Lee who is a lesser version of knies. We lose willy and Rasmus but have the cap to replace willy with a burakovsky or copp and we have a log jam at LD. We would still have cap for a starter and could move Holl and kerfoot for more cap flexibility.

 

[Brobust]

I still think the kings would be the best trade option for Nylander.
To
Toronto
2022 1st 19th overall
2022 2nd 51st overall
Vilardi
Faber
Lee

To
Kings
Nylander
Sandin


We gain another first potentially letting us draft two of ohgren, Mcgroarty, and Bischel. A mid round 2nd for another prospect. Vilardi who can still be a top 6c, Faber who projects to be a top 4 shutdown d and Lee who is a lesser version of knies. We lose willy and Rasmus but have the cap to replace willy with a burakovsky or copp and we have a log jam at LD. We would still have cap for a starter and could move Holl and kerfoot for more cap flexibility.

A quarter, nickel, dime, another quarter and a penny.

And Toronto sends Sandin as well!

 

[Hockey 4 Life]

A quarter, nickel, dime, another quarter and a penny.

And Toronto sends Sandin as well!

Honest question with no attitude behind it, do you know those prospects at all or are you going based on name recognition ?

 

[Brobust]

Honest question with no attitude behind it, do you know those prospects at all or are you going based on name recognition ?

I don't value the 19th and 51st enough and I like Faber. Vilardi is their least interesting young forward and I don't know Lee.

Let me ask you, realistically what do you think this bag turns into in 5 years? IMO, best case scenario is you have a good top 4 d-man and maybe one of those picks turns into a solid 2nd liner.

 

[Rob Brown]

I don't value the 19th and 51st enough and I like Faber. Vilardi is their least interesting young forward and I don't know Lee.

Let me ask you, realistically what do you think this bag turns into in 5 years? IMO, best case scenario is you have a good top 4 d-man and maybe one of those picks turns into a solid 2nd liner.

Vilardi worries me. But if they replaced him with Turcotte or Kupari I wouldn't shrug it off. That said, I don't think the Kings would.

 

[Hockey 4 Life]

I don't value the 19th and 51st enough and I like Faber. Vilardi is their least interesting young forward and I don't know Lee.

Let me ask you, realistically what do you think this bag turns into in 5 years? IMO, best case scenario is you have a good top 4 d-man and maybe one of those picks turns into a solid 2nd liner.

Well with those picks I believe we draft ohgren or Mcgroarty and a really good defensive forward like Sykora. That also allows us to draft bischel or ostlund with our first. Thats a massive 1st and 2nd round with excellent prospects. Then you add Vilardi who I believe tops out as a 55 to 60 point two c, Faber who ends up a top 4 shutdown rd and Lee who I see as a third line two way power forward. Willy and Sandin are great but can be replaced through free agency and we retool on the fly. Its about long term winning not a two year window.

Vilardi worries me. But if they replaced him with Turcotte or Kupari I wouldn't shrug it off. That said, I don't think the Kings would.

Kings fans have been very receptive to it so far.

 

[Rob Brown]

Kings fans have been very receptive to it so far.

Sorry, more meant I doubt the Kings would if it was a different prospect in for Vilardi. I could be wrong.

 

[Hockey 4 Life]

Sorry, more meant I doubt the Kings would if it was a different prospect in for Vilardi. I could be wrong.

I like Vilardi more than turcotte and think he becomes the much better player. I think this is the type of deal the leafs need to make for long term success.

 

[Brobust]

Well with those picks I believe we draft ohgren or Mcgroarty and a really good defensive forward like Sykora. That also allows us to draft bischel or ostlund with our first. Thats a massive 1st and 2nd round with excellent prospects. Then you add Vilardi who I believe tops out as a 55 to 60 point two c, Faber who ends up a top 4 shutdown rd and Lee who I see as a third line two way power forward. Willy and Sandin are great but can be replaced through free agency and we retool on the fly. Its about long term winning not a two year window.


Kings fans have been very receptive to it so far.

I don't care how nice their names sound. I'm not putting much value in anyone outside the top 10. It's a gamble they don't need to take when it comes to a Nylander trade.

On Vilardi, back issues are a major red flag. And so far we have solid AHL production to go off but as a 22 year old that doesn't mean much to me.

If Nylander and Sandin are so easily replaced why are those prospects worth so much? With less of a track record they should be even more easy to replace.

 

[Nylanderthal]

I still think the kings would be the best trade option for Nylander.
To
Toronto
2022 1st 19th overall
2022 2nd 51st overall
Vilardi
Faber
Lee

To
Kings
Nylander
Sandin


We gain another first potentially letting us draft two of ohgren, Mcgroarty, and Bischel. A mid round 2nd for another prospect. Vilardi who can still be a top 6c, Faber who projects to be a top 4 shutdown d and Lee who is a lesser version of knies. We lose willy and Rasmus but have the cap to replace willy with a burakovsky or copp and we have a log jam at LD. We would still have cap for a starter and could move Holl and kerfoot for more cap flexibility.

The saying of “whoever gets the best player wins the trade” would really be applicable here considering LA is getting the 2 best pieces in the deal

Kings fans have been very receptive to it so far.

I bet they have

 

[Hockey 4 Life]

I don't care how nice their names sound. I'm not putting much value in anyone outside the top 10. It's a gamble they don't need to take when it comes to a Nylander trade.

On Vilardi, back issues are a major red flag. And so far we have solid AHL production to go off but as a 22 year old that doesn't mean much to me.

If Nylander and Sandin are so easily replaced why are those prospects worth so much? With less of a track record they should be even more easy to replace.

The only reason willy is even talked about in regards to being traded is that he doesn't seem to play well with Tavares. We won't trade Matty or Mitch and we can't trade JT, willy is the only player we can use to shed cap and retool the roster. Could their be better trades out their absolutely, but either way all trades Besides Matthews , Marner, and Reilly need to be explored.

 

[Brobust]

The saying of “whoever gets the best player wins the trade” would really be applicable here considering LA is getting the 2 best pieces in the deal


I bet they have

I watched Faber with Minnesota and was pretty impressed and almost gave him the edge over Sandin but then I remembered that Sandin actually looked better and significantly more dynamic at the WJCs.

 

[Hockey 4 Life]

The saying of “whoever gets the best player wins the trade” would really be applicable here considering LA is getting the 2 best pieces in the deal


I bet they have

The team needs a shake up and all prospects coming to the leafs in this trade wether from the kings or their picks are all very solid. 2nd line wingers are the easiest to replace and though willy is a first line talent hes not on our team.

 

[Brobust]

The only reason willy is even talked about in regards to being traded is that he doesn't seem to play well with Tavares. We won't trade Matty or Mitch and we can't trade JT, willy is the only player we can use to shed cap and retool the roster. Could their be better trades out their absolutely, but either way all trades Besides Matthews , Marner, and Reilly need to be explored.

I am not one of the guys here who thinks Willy is untouchable and I agree with that line's issues. But we've done nothing to fix any of that with your trade.

They haven't added a single dynamic player to the pipeline and please don't say the 19th overall is going to get them a bonafide NHLer. Especially one with the kind of talent Nylander has.

Vilardi will not step into a top 6 role next season and he does not even have waiver exemption so the leafs can't even develop him in the AHL.

Faber is fine and maybe the best piece in the deal, but he's not a difference maker.

So you're left with cap space, which you will use on UFA forwards who are older and risky investments for a top heavy team like Toronto.

 

[Hockey 4 Life]

I am not one of the guys here who thinks Willy is untouchable and I agree with that line's issues. But we've done nothing to fix any of that with your trade.

They haven't added a single dynamic player to the pipeline and please don't say the 19th overall is going to get them a bonafide NHLer. Especially one with the kind of talent Nylander has.

Vilardi will not step into a top 6 role next season and he does not even have waiver exemption so the leafs can't even develop him in the AHL.

Faber is fine and maybe the best piece in the deal, but he's not a difference maker.

So you're left with cap space, which you will use on UFA forwards who are older and risky investments for a top heavy team like Toronto.

Your analysis is fair and I agree with a lot of it, but it seems worst case scenario where as my assessment could be viewed as best case scenario. The truth is somewhere in the middle I guess. Either way somthing needs to be done.