Trade and Free Agency Thread - 2021/22 - Post Deadline

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I don't see any harm in exploring moving Nylander, but I see such a move, as bringing in more depth, but not giving up in quality.

Such moves as to NJD for 2nd OA McLeod + Holtz for Nylander + Mikheyev

Or to Nashville for 17th OA + Sissons + Tomasino

Then having the room to sign someone like a Reilly Smith

But in a 1:1 for a D man.. I don't think that makes sense.

that Nashville deal would be amazing. I would probably pull the trigger on that, but I'd want to maybe flip Sissons for a defenseman
 
Brodie & Muzz are going to age out by then. Either resign them to cheaper deals that reflect their ability or find better value for those positions, but you definitely don’t let a mid 20’s ppg stud walk because you’re concerned about replacing a couple of mid 30 defensive d men with tons of miles on them.
Wasn't it moving them like next summer? I don't expect Brodie especially to fall off a cliff within the next year. Also wouldn't you expect Gio who is far older to far off completely leaving the leafs without 3 of their top 4 D? You have Marner and Matthews to resign the year after Nylander as well which will be a big factor. Matthews and Marner were paid near the highest in the league for potential. Imagine what they are going to want now that they fulfilled that potential?

I also have 0 interest in running bare bones goalies every year so would like to work in like 5 million for a starter into the cap structure. I really dont think that Nylander will be resigned but I could be easily wrong.
 
Using the Arturri Lehkonen trade as a template for the Alex Kerfoot trade.

Late 1st + 2nd with a 6th being sent to some team to retain on Kerfoot (possible candidates: Tampa, Edmonton, Minnesota)

Carolina: Ponomariev + 2nd
Nashville: L'Heureux or Evangelista + 2nd

etc etc etc.

That should be the price.
 
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if they wanted to trade Nylander……would Forsberg replace his offence? Higher salary I’d expect too? Not sure it makes sense but for around 1m more we could get a replacement plus the assets from a Willy trade?
 
Wasn't it moving them like next summer? I don't expect Brodie especially to fall off a cliff within the next year. Also wouldn't you expect Gio who is far older to far off completely leaving the leafs without 3 of their top 4 D? You have Marner and Matthews to resign the year after Nylander as well which will be a big factor. Matthews and Marner were paid near the highest in the league for potential. Imagine what they are going to want now that they fulfilled that potential?

I also have 0 interest in running bare bones goalies every year so would like to work in like 5 million for a starter into the cap structure. I really dont think that Nylander will be resigned but I could be easily wrong.
They can easily work a 5m goalie in today as is with the cap as it stands, in two years we should see a significant increase to that cap and I’m suggesting that when the nylander Matthews Brodie and muzzin deals are up you can extend the two forwards and have money left over to replace those two.
Gio’s of no consequence cap wise, he’s 800k

Using the Arturri Lehkonen trade as a template for the Alex Kerfoot trade.

Late 1st + 2nd with a 6th being sent to some team to retain on Kerfoot (possible candidates: Tampa, Edmonton, Minnesota)

Carolina: Ponomariev + 2nd
Nashville: L'Heureux or Evangelista + 2nd

etc etc etc.

That should be the price.
In my cap friendly exercise I moved him to Seattle for the 2x2nd and 3rd we have them for gio & Blackwell. I could see a late first or first round prospect though.
 
Using the Arturri Lehkonen trade as a template for the Alex Kerfoot trade.

Late 1st + 2nd with a 6th being sent to some team to retain on Kerfoot (possible candidates: Tampa, Edmonton, Minnesota)

Carolina: Ponomariev + 2nd
Nashville: L'Heureux or Evangelista + 2nd

etc etc etc.

That should be the price.

Are you trying to find someone that can step right in to the line-up at a lesser role or are you trying to re-stock the cupboards with prospects?
 
Are you trying to find someone that can step right in to the line-up at a lesser role or are you trying to re-stock the cupboards with prospects?
Would rather back fill spent draft capital & completely clear the aav and have it to redirect in other moves either in FA or trade.
In a Kerfoot trade I'd prefer to get futures and use the 3.5 AAV to shop in UFA.

I'd hope they go that route with Kerfoot and Holl.
Ah, I see you’re a man of culture as well.
 
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They can easily work a 5m goalie in today as is with the cap as it stands, in two years we should see a significant increase to that cap and I’m suggesting that when the nylander Matthews Brodie and muzzin deals are up you can extend the two forwards and have money left over to replace those two.
Gio’s of no consequence cap wise, he’s 800k


In my cap friendly exercise I moved him to Seattle for the 2x2nd and 3rd we have them for gio & Blackwell. I could see a late first or first round prospect though.
They be able to fit in a 5 million dollar starter this year but what about going forward with all the big resigns in the next couple years. What are the projections for cap rise in the next 2 years? Anything official or just speculation? I thought the cap was going to not increase that much the next few years due the change of 50/50 player owner split in escrow due to pandemic or what not?

Gio would be of major consequence. You got a guy playing top 4D likely and is on a league min contract. Chances of replacing that role with league min is very low so there will be a big cap bump for his role. Also if the cap is rising wouldn't the guys brought into replace Brodie, Muzzin etc be more expensive than they are now?
 
They be able to fit in a 5 million dollar starter this year but what about going forward with all the big resigns in the next couple years. What are the projections for cap rise in the next 2 years? Anything official or just speculation? I thought the cap was going to not increase that much the next few years due the change of 50/50 player owner split in escrow due to pandemic or what not?

Gio would be of major consequence. You got a guy playing top 4D likely and is on a league min contract. Chances of replacing that role with league min is very low so there will be a big cap bump for his role. Also if the cap is rising wouldn't the guys brought into replace Brodie, Muzzin etc be more expensive than they are now?

You should check out Bettman's predictions.

Record revenue is on the way.

 
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They be able to fit in a 5 million dollar starter this year but what about going forward with all the big resigns in the next couple years. What are the projections for cap rise in the next 2 years? Anything official or just speculation? I thought the cap was going to not increase that much the next few years due the change of 50/50 player owner split in escrow due to pandemic or what not?

Gio would be of major consequence. You got a guy playing top 4D likely and is on a league min contract. Chances of replacing that role with league min is very low so there will be a big cap bump for his role. Also if the cap is rising wouldn't the guys brought into replace Brodie, Muzzin etc be more expensive than they are now?

Allan Walsh (top NHL agent) has his podcast, and he said the expectation is the Cap will grow 1M, until 2024-25 and then a 10M jump will happen.
 
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You should check out Bettman's predictions.

Record revenue is on the way.

Players owe the owners money due to drop in revenue during COVID though, so until that's paid off, the cap will only rise $1M a season.

Probably $1M raises to the cap for the next ~2-3 years, and then once that debt is paid, it should jump quite a bit (because it will then again be based on the 50/50 revenue split, and the revenue should be quite a bit higher than it was when the 81.5M cap was set). The timing could actually be pretty poor, because we'll be stuck with the barely rising cap for the entirety of the Matthews, Marner, etc contracts, and then right around the time they're due for new contracts, they and their agents will know that the cap is about to jump ~$10M+ due to the debt being paid off (i.e. they'll want contracts reflective of that jump in cap rather than the current stagnant cap).
 
Allan Walsh (top NHL agent) has his podcast, and he said the expectation is the Cap will grow 1M, until 2024-25 and then a 10M jump will happen.



Might be a little optimistic. I think 25-26 is probably when the cap jumps.
 
Using the Arturri Lehkonen trade as a template for the Alex Kerfoot trade.

Late 1st + 2nd with a 6th being sent to some team to retain on Kerfoot (possible candidates: Tampa, Edmonton, Minnesota)

Carolina: Ponomariev + 2nd
Nashville: L'Heureux or Evangelista + 2nd

etc etc etc.

That should be the price.
Minnesota and Tampa are in cap hell, particularly Minnesota. So they won't retain for anyone
 
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Minnesota and Tampa are in cap hell, particularly Minnesota. So they won't retain for anyone

They're the candidates for him to go to. Any cap floor team like Buffalo/Arizona can retain, they get a $1.75M cap hit for $350k.
 
Allan Walsh (top NHL agent) has his podcast, and he said the expectation is the Cap will grow 1M, until 2024-25 and then a 10M jump will happen.

This is silly to me. Why would the players want that? All the other players get jammed and then one big year?

They should try to make it like 4, 4 , 4 or something and lower the escrow.

A big jump seems silly. Unless every player decides to sign and become ufa in 2025.
 
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They're the candidates for him to go to. Any cap floor team like Buffalo/Arizona can retain, they get a $1.75M cap hit for $350k.
Minnesota and Tampa have plenty of bottom line player. Kerfoot would be a 4th line player on Minnesota and so they wouldn't. He would be same on Tampa.

Edmonton is the only realistic one
 
You're clueless, sorry.
Um no dude, do your research. Minnesota and Tampa are the last team needing bottom line player or lw. You really need to do your research, you aren't going to convince Tampa and Minnesota to take on Kerfoot. It's also funny you think Kerfoot will get 1st round pick or more.

Minnesota needs a top c. Tampa might need bottom line players if they don't resign him. Stop acting like Kerfoot is a C, or top4 line player. Your homer is showing. Post that on home Page and see what is said to you
 
Um no dude, do your research. Minnesota and Tampa are the last team needing bottom line player or lw. You really need to do your research, you aren't going to convince Tampa and Minnesota to take on Kerfoot. It's also funny you think Kerfoot will get 1st round pick or more.

Minnesota needs a top c. Tampa might need bottom line players if they don't resign him. Stop acting like Kerfoot is a C, or top4 line player. Your homer is showing. Post that on home Page and see what is said to you

No, you do your research. Dude. Kerfoot isn't a 4th liner on any team in the league. Please do your research dude.
 
Allan Walsh (top NHL agent) has his podcast, and he said the expectation is the Cap will grow 1M, until 2024-25 and then a 10M jump will happen.
Ah okay thanks, that makes sense with what I was reading that we will only see modest increases the years right after covid. The 10M jump will be the wildest UFA/offer sheet summer ever lol
 
No, you do your research. Dude. Kerfoot isn't a 4th liner on any team in the league. Please do your research dude.
On teams like Minnesota that has plenty Kerfoot players or Tampa, he's. People like you are so Homer's, your blind. If Minnesota trades fiala, Rossi takes over and they will only have one line, fourth line open

If Tampa loses nick Paul, Same thing. Stop being a blind homer. Minnesota and Tampa gm aren't stupid abd you are Pawning Kerfoot on them.
 
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