Trade and Free Agency Thread - 2021/22 - Post Deadline

[Rielly4]

A guy who I have thought for a long time would be a game changer with the Leafs is Boone Jenner. The guy is a warrior, especially in the playoffs. He brings so much the Leafs are lacking, and for only 3.75 mil for the next 4 years. C/ LW who has a C on his chest and would solidify down the middle and either the second or third LW spot. Columbus is a long way from being relevant and maybe he's ready to move for a shot at a championship.

What would it take from the Leafs end? Columbus has a lot of nice pieces and #6 and #12 this year.

hard agree. I could see Jarmo being very interested in our finnish prospects. Niemela I am not sure Dubas would do but Hirvonen + 1st could be a good deal.

 

[KTG]

hard agree. I could see Jarmo being very interested in our finnish prospects. Niemela I am not sure Dubas would do but Hirvonen + 1st could be a good deal.

I think that value is pretty spot on. He would be a hard get because he is the heart of that team, but yeah Karmo loves his Euro guys.

 

[Torontonian]

The 3 issues plaguing Toronto:
1) Soft bottom 6, to easy to play against Toronto
2) Goaltending
3) Top 6 winger.

Toronto really needs to fix it's bottom 6, it's okay if your top 6 is soft but can score goals, but your entire lineup cannot be full of soft players, there needs to be a mixture. Kerfoot/Kampf (I do like what he brings defensively)/Mikayev/Spezza/Kase don't make the others team life hard. Simmonds/Clifford are what we are looking for but aren't good enough. The fact we keep signing UFAS to plug every hole and haven't been able to bring in cheap ELC players to fill in needs at all on the bottom 6 is a big problem.

Goaltending isn't the sole issue when we lose, but dating back to a few years now, every time we have a chance to eliminate a team, (Game 5,6,7 against MTL and Game 6,7 against Tampa,) our goaltender is always the 2nd best goalie on the ice.

Having another good player to play beside JT + Willy has been an issue for years now, time to find a player to complement them.

 

[thusk]

Gibson is probably not as good as you say or as bad as others say but given our cap situation, it would be risky to take on 6.4mx4 unless they take back Mrazek and a first or Robertson and a small add.

I'd kick tires on Husso or Blackwood (2.8m) before going after Gibson.

Just a question for you, if Matthews dont resign in Toronto in 2 season, do you think than the leafs will be able to come closer of right now to win a stanley cup in the next 15 year?

Some ones are affraid to give pick and prospect to help the team right now but at the same time, keeping young and pick despite or try to upgrade the team = say to your team... you are not good enought to have faith in you by giving you maximum of weapon we need to help you...

If Matthews see dubas not ready to make move to win right now, do you think he will have the same interest to stay in Toronto?

 

[Brobust]

Just a question for you, if Matthews dont resign in Toronto in 2 season, do you think than the leafs will be able to come closer of right now to win a stanley cup in the next 15 year?

Some ones are affraid to give pick and prospect to help the team right now but at the same time, keeping young and pick despite or try to upgrade the team = say to your team... you are not good enought to have faith in you by giving you maximum of weapon we need to help you...

If Matthews see dubas not ready to make move to win right now, do you think he will have the same interest to stay in Toronto?

Nobody is afraid to give up a pick and a prospect. People want a good trade that won't bite the team in the ass.

 

[WTFMAN99]

Just a question for you, if Matthews dont resign in Toronto in 2 season, do you think than the leafs will be able to come closer of right now to win a stanley cup in the next 15 year?

Some ones are affraid to give pick and prospect to help the team right now but at the same time, keeping young and pick despite or try to upgrade the team = say to your team... you are not good enought to have faith in you by giving you maximum of weapon we need to help you...

If Matthews see dubas not ready to make move to win right now, do you think he will have the same interest to stay in Toronto?

If Matthews leaves, it sucks but a bunch of teams have won cups, even playoff rounds with players not named Matthews, JT, Nylander or Marner.

We'd rebuild and try again.

You wanna worry about some hypothetical situation? Knock yourself out.

I'd probably gamble on Blackwood at this point given our salary cap structure, cost to obtain and he was elite about as long ago as Gibson was...but younger and allows us to slide a nice back up option behind him.

Our cap structure is what it is.

 

[Brobust]

The 3 issues plaguing Toronto:
1) Soft bottom 6, to easy to play against Toronto
2) Goaltending
3) Top 6 winger.

Toronto really needs to fix it's bottom 6, it's okay if your top 6 is soft but can score goals, but your entire lineup cannot be full of soft players, there needs to be a mixture. Kerfoot/Kampf (I do like what he brings defensively)/Mikayev/Spezza/Kase don't make the others team life hard. Simmonds/Clifford are what we are looking for but aren't good enough. The fact we keep signing UFAS to plug every hole and haven't been able to bring in cheap ELC players to fill in needs at all on the bottom 6 is a big problem.

Goaltending isn't the sole issue when we lose, but dating back to a few years now, every time we have a chance to eliminate a team, (Game 5,6,7 against MTL and Game 6,7 against Tampa,) our goaltender is always the 2nd best goalie on the ice.

Having another good player to play beside JT + Willy has been an issue for years now, time to find a player to complement them.

1. Only partially true. The 3rd line was fantastic, the 4th was never good because of Simmonds.
2. Sure, they can get better. But it didn't kill the team.
3. You're right, a better third man for the 2nd line would have pushed this team over the top.

 

[LeafChief]

Apparently Bob Daly confimed that the Oilers do not get a cap credit of $3.4 million if Keith retires.

 

[Menzinger]

Gibson's raw value is probably closer to 2 2nds or 1st and lesser prospect. Plus the Ducks will likely need to take back a contract from whatever team wants him (or retain 1-2 mil).

The price probably isn't outrageous, but at this point I'd look to the other options first.

 

[Dreakmur]

I think someone who needs NHL goaltending and needs to get to the salary floor will take him. Coyotes maybe?

Why would they pay him 4.2 million to get 3.8 in cap space? If they’re desperate to reach the cap floor, they’ll sign somebody for 3.8 and just pay that much cash.

 

[WTFMAN99]

Why would they pay him 4.2 million to get 3.8 in cap space? If they’re desperate to reach the cap floor, they’ll sign somebody for 3.8 and just pay that much cash.

They'd need a sweetener.

I feel pretty confident if Mrazek is going anywhere, it's Chicago, Buffalo or Arizona.

Outside chance at Nashville.

 

[LeafChief]

Getting second years on those Bunting and Kampf deals was pretty brilliant.

 

[McSnypsky]

They'd need a sweetener.

I feel pretty confident if Mrazek is going anywhere, it's Chicago, Buffalo or Arizona.

Outside chance at Nashville.

What about Jersey for Bernier's LTIR? Jersey get's a goalie for two years while they rebuild and we get rid of the contract and hell if Bernier is ready by the playoffs he's your number 3.

 

[WTFMAN99]

Getting second years on those Bunting and Kampf deals was pretty brilliant.

Pretty crucial...I have run a *lot* of scenarios though on Capfriendly and depending on the moves, the year after this next one gets pretty dicey in terms of re-upping acquisitions etc.

What about Jersey for Bernier's LTIR? Jersey get's a goalie for two years while they rebuild and we get rid of the contract and hell if Bernier is ready by the playoffs he's your number 3.

Not opposed at all but I suspect there is more to that deal...Jersey could simply put Bernier on LTR, insurance pays most of the $$ and they just need to sign another cheaper goalie.

 

[TMLAM34]

Mrazek to Chicago makes too much sense.

To Toronto: Boris Katchouk
To Chicago: Petr Mrazek + Nick Abruzzese

Something like that would probably benefit both teams. I think Katchouk would look pretty good playing alongside Kampf.

 

[Menzinger]

What about Jersey for Bernier's LTIR? Jersey get's a goalie for two years while they rebuild and we get rid of the contract and hell if Bernier is ready by the playoffs he's your number 3.

I've been wondering if the Leafs may try and pursue something like that. Essentially give him away for a (likely uninsured) LTIR contract from a team that could use a warm body to fill a gap in goaltending. If he rebounds they can flip him themselves at the tdl

 

[Menzinger]

Why would they pay him 4.2 million to get 3.8 in cap space? If they’re desperate to reach the cap floor, they’ll sign somebody for 3.8 and just pay that much cash.

They may have trouble attracting free agents given that they're going to be playing in a 5ish thousand capacity college arena. Even if they're willing to pay, guys have to be willing to use lesser facilities

 

[ToneDog]

Getting second years on those Bunting and Kampf deals was pretty brilliant.

The challenge is going to be to keep them after their deals run out or find new ones.

 

[WTFMAN99]

I've been wondering if the Leafs may try and pursue something like that. Essentially give him away for a (likely uninsured) LTIR contract from a team that could use a warm body to fill a gap in goaltending. If he rebounds they can flip him themselves at the tdl

I meant to add this to the other one but what about Mrazek+small addition for P.Myers to Nashville?

Leafs could buy Myers out for a cap credit this year and a small penalty the following year...

Mrazek for Connolly or Borgstrom+Khaira...Leafs likely add a sweetener

Buffalo for Bjork...maybe a small sweetener required

Not sure what the Arizona deal looks like, again, sweetener required.

 

[LeafChief]

The challenge is going to be to keep them after their deals run out or find new ones.

As is the challenge with all players needing to be re-upped (assuming they had a good season).

The brilliance in the two year deal was that they don't have to worry about it until next year. You know what else was a good contract? The Brodie one. I don't hear a lot of people talking about that Brodie contract. Doesn't get much play in this thread.

 

[Menzinger]

I meant to add this to the other one but what about Mrazek+small addition for P.Myers to Nashville?

Leafs could buy Myers out for a cap credit this year and a small penalty the following year...

Mrazek for Connolly or Borgstrom+Khaira...Leafs likely add a sweetener

Buffalo for Bjork...maybe a small sweetener required

Not sure what the Arizona deal looks like, again, sweetener required.

That's another option - move him for a guy with an even lower buyout penalty. They've been creative with these sorts of trades before so lots of potential opportunities could happen.

I think if the Leafs do indeed want Mrazek gone, he will be without too much trouble.one way or the other.

 

[ToneDog]

Mrazek to Chicago makes too much sense.

To Toronto: Boris Katchouk
To Chicago: Petr Mrazek + Nick Abruzzese

Something like that would probably benefit both teams. I think Katchouk would look pretty good playing alongside Kampf.

That looks like highway robbery.

 

[Lightsol]

There's no way Dubas doesn't have a plan. And I can't see it being two from the scrap heap in the most pivotal year of his tenure in Toronto. Doesn't sound like it's Gibson, doesn't sound like it's Campbell. Can't be Mrazek. UFA options are meh. Really curious to see what the plan is.

The way I'm reading it, the plan is to bring in the goalie department before July 1st (possibly before the draft), and then come up with a list of targets from their input. Basically, hire the experts, and then ask them who they think they could best work with. I'd assume he has a backup plan just in case, though.

 

[Lightsol]

I have no idea who this mystery goalie you're thinking of but here is Vasilevski's NHL transaction history. Wasn't on waivers

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The only other goalies of note Tampa has drafted since 2008 that could have been on waivers are Connor Ingram, Kristers Gudlevskis, and Dustin Tokarski. Of course it could have been a prospect they traded for after someone else drafted them too.

IIRC, it was Vasi, and the discussion was over real fast, so I'm guessing it's what I said before; the people discussing it weren't aware that Vasi was waiver-exempt, and the discussion was closed when it was determined he was. I never posted in it, so I can't find it in my own history.

 

[ToneDog]

As is the challenge with all players needing to be re-upped (assuming they had a good season).

The brilliance in the two year deal was that they don't have to worry about it until next year. You know what else was a good contract? The Brodie one. I don't hear a lot of people talking about that Brodie contract. Doesn't get much play in this thread.

Brodie's is good, especially since he replaced Barrie and defends well but I wouldn't mind if we could move him or Muzzin to free up $5+m cap space. Better to move a player one year too early than one year too late.