Trade and Free Agency Thread - 2021/22 - Post Deadline

[Stephen]

Just about any combination of Matthews, Marner and Tavares is dangerous, because the three of them work well together. Nylander's the one who's style is different, and I seriously don't know why Keefe didn't experiment more with building a rush line with Nylander during the season.

Nylander and Tavares are still hitting the 70-80 point territory but they are definitely not an optimized fit. I don’t know if Tavares point totals get much better but I could see him just being more effective 5 on 5 with a better line suited to his abilities and Nylander being a 90 point player on a line where he’s running and gunning.

 

[Martin Skoula]

Ducks obviously hold Gibson in high regard. But his term and contract given his last 3 years is a big gamble. So in terms of market value it takes a hit.

Interesting to hear about his body language. That shouldn’t scapegoat his play over the last 3 years but to me it seems like a change of scenery would reinvigorate him. That is intriguing.

Also Scheif seems like a locker room problem. Then again there are two sides to every story.

Would you not worry that he could quit on us too? Couple injuries to the blueline where he faces a lot of shots for a few weeks, he starts having "body language" issues again. I get hating losing but you still have to do your job to the best of your ability.

 

[ULF_55]

Murray has two more years at 6.25. No f***ing thank you.

Murray is owed $15mm over the next 2 years.
Mrazek is owed $8.6mm over the next 2 years.

Murray played 20 games this year and appears to be living on LTIR.

 

[LeafChief]

Murray is owed $15mm over the next 2 years.
Mrazek is owed $8.6mm over the next 2 years.

Murray played 20 games this year and appears to be living on LTIR.

LTIR doesn't help a team, especially when they are not already in LTIR.

If it's Mrazek for Murray and Murray never plays again, I could make see the benefit.

 

[ULF_55]

LTIR doesn't help a team, especially when they are not already in LTIR.

If it's Mrazek for Murray and Murray never plays again, I could make see the benefit.

Maybe Ottawa is willing to take Mrazek and Annaheim wants a tonne for a slightly better stats Gibson who has 5 years around the same Cap Hit.

Getting out of terrible Murry probably easier than getting out of a terrible Gibson.

 

[Dreakmur]

Please show us most of those

All his goals are available on the nhl website. He drops down to the side of the net and swoops through the slot sometimes.

 

[Shooter2x]

Last sewson, Of season of 23 nylander goal at even strenght season+ playoff, only 19 come off the rush...

How many chance off the rush you will get during an #7 game or during OT or a game without any space on the ice like whats its look like with tampa vs NYR ?

soft on d, affraid of physical game, unable to create any offensive outside of pp or off the rush... i dont think nylander bring as much than everyone think... yes hes ppg but honestly hes overrated...


for jt With wich kind of player he get the most succes in career? Player just rushing the net like okposo, moulson ... perron, copp, palat, niedereiter are better fit with jt than nylander...

Nylander is one of the best cyclers in the game and also crashes the net lol. He's not restricted to just rushes.

 

[SeaOfBlue]

Maybe Ottawa is willing to take Mrazek and Annaheim wants a tonne for a slightly better stats Gibson who has 5 years around the same Cap Hit.

Getting out of terrible Murry probably easier than getting out of a terrible Gibson.

Especially if it is one year and he is already retained by Ottawa, which almost certainly needs to happen unless they are really making it worth our while.

 

[Erndog]

It took the Leafs the #13 overall pick to get out of 1 yr of Marleau at $6.25M (with only like $1M of real money).

For Murray's 2 yrs at $6.25M and $15 of real money I'd want their #7 pick included. Even then I'm not sure if that helps us at all considering the terrible cap allocation

 

[fahad203]

There are two players in UFA are former Harvard graduates in Donato and Vessey and we already have 2 in our roaster kerfoot and Blackwell and Nik Abrussee in the minors

We could potentially have the smartest high iq team in the league

Throwing out ideas

 

[kb]

It took the Leafs the #13 overall pick to get out of 1 yr of Marleau at $6.25M (with only like $1M of real money).

For Murray's 2 yrs at $6.25M and $15 of real money I'd want their #7 pick included. Even then I'm not sure if that helps us at all considering the terrible cap allocation

It was $4,250,000 and it was a trade that was made solely to buy him out.

But agreed, the Leafs are not in the business of getting Ottawa out of their horrific signings, so it should cost them.

 

[ULF_55]

It took the Leafs the #13 overall pick to get out of 1 yr of Marleau at $6.25M (with only like $1M of real money).

For Murray's 2 yrs at $6.25M and $15 of real money I'd want their #7 pick included. Even then I'm not sure if that helps us at all considering the terrible cap allocation

Maybe it is a 3 way deal.

Sens - Mrazek
Ducks - Murray
Leafs - Gibson

 

[SeaOfBlue]

It was $4,250,000 and it was a trade that was made solely to buy him out.

But agreed, the Leafs are not in the business of getting Ottawa out of their horrific signings, so it should cost them.

It also didn't cost us that pick either. It cost us a pick that should have been later than it ended up being.

For me, it depends on how much Ottawa is going to retain. I imagine it won't be a whole lot, but Murray is a lot more overpaid than Mrazek.

 

[Jozay]

Still terrible for the Leafs… it’s a lateral move with zero cap improvements. Both goalies carry big risks in terms of rebounding.

I agree. Would much rather run it back with Mrazek. Mrazeks buyout is much better too, if it comes to that.

 

[Dreakmur]

49% of his goals from in tight or low slot, another quarter from the left wing dot in, but yes he’s a soft perimeter player who only excels on the rush.
I swear this place is a meme sometimes

A scatter plot with the specific points erased and no context? Sweet.

 

[thusk]

Nylander is one of the best cyclers in the game and also crashes the net lol. He's not restricted to just rushes.

He cycling the puck well yes but always stay outside, you will praticly never see him crash the net if there a chance to be hit... he will scored on rebound but from the outside of the post and not in the traffic... if he scored on a rebound in traffic, probably because you will see 4 or 5 player battling for the puck and doing all the job in front for him.

He will score from around the net yes but majority of those goal came off the rush.

I came from QC i heard something similar about a habs player... Jonathan Drouin... a tremendous skilled player but whos not ready to work hard...Nylander is a better shooter than Drouin and its probably the main difference... tampa was smart enought to trade drouin before it was too late to get a good value for him.

 

[kb]

Awwww. How cute. Look a the posters trying to rewrite history to match their fantasies.

No wonder the Leaf board is a laughing stock.

 

[stickty111]

Awwww. How cute. Look a the posters trying to rewrite history to match their fantasies.

No wonder the Leaf board is a laughing stock.

Overdrive was freaking out about the Matt Murray snippit. Remind me again why I don't listen to the clowns especially Jeff and Hayes. Noodles was actually calm which makes the other 2 look more bad. Those 2 were in full panic mode

 

[kb]

Overdrive was freaking out about the Matt Murray snippit. Remind me again why I don't listen to the clowns especially Jeff and Hayes. Noodles was actually calm which makes the other 2 look more bad. Those 2 were in full panic mode

I can't even imagine the Leafs actually having interest in Murray.

 

[stickty111]

I can't even imagine the Leafs actually having interest in Murray.

The only way it makes sense is if Mrazek goes the other way and Leafs are getting a sweetner. I'm not buying it

 

[stickty111]

I can't even imagine the Leafs actually having interest in Murray.

Hayes and Jeff's reaction will be hilarious if Leafs decide to go long term on Liljegren

 

[kb]

It lowers the value a lot for a goaltender making 1.3M more (cap hit, but salary is much higher) with 1 more season.

If Dubas can punt Mrazek away for less, than I'll give him full credit.

It's not like Mrazek was a totally write-off goalie. He has had some excellent years. Ritchie has not - he's been living off his draft pedigree.

That's why one down year (especially as a goalie) doesn't flush it all away. Arizona was looking for a 3rd for Boosh, and got either a late 3rd this year plus Ritchie, or a second 3 years down the line. So it only cost the Leafs at worst possibly going one round up to move Ritchie.

That is the worst case scenario I envision with Mrazek.

 

[OVO16]

Can this Curtis Douglas kid play? Would solve a lot of problems for our 4th line identity

 

[Menzinger]

Saw a Twitter suggestion that Zach Aston-Reese could be an interesting target for the Leafs. Was described as being Kampf like in terms of defensive impact . Also plays with an aggressive play style

 

[Menzinger]

While I’d like to try and get Sandin and Lily on cheap long term deals, cap wise for next year it’s not in the cards. A 1 year deal for both makes sense above League minimum.. 2 years would be ideal.

Yep.

Neither guy is going to get a ton of pp time too (so no stat padding). Let's see what we have with them, and then lock em up next offseason if need be.