GDT: Trade and Free Agency Thread - 2021/22 PART VI

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As we should have. Schenn makes too much sense as a depth add.
Another Bogosian type add and would be really cheap. Pushes Liljegren to a 7th role which is great depth.
You wonder if the kids handle it well, then maybe Schenn is the main add. If the kids stumble a bit, then Dubas looks to do something more impactful.
 
Thats also why im not sure how much more chychrun can really giving more than sandin with leafs situation.

For me sergachev = Chychrun

Toronto Mcdonaugh is muzzin
They need to find their cernak to playing with or their Rutta to playing with Rielly not their sergachev, they maybe already got it with Sandin.

Leafs Cernak might be Sandin? Not even close to similar players.
 

As we should have. Schenn makes too much sense as a depth add.
Another Bogosian type add and would be really cheap. Pushes Liljegren to a 7th role which is great depth.
You wonder if the kids handle it well, then maybe Schenn is the main add. If the kids stumble a bit, then Dubas looks to do something more impactful.


The Human Eraser!??!?!
 
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As we should have. Schenn makes too much sense as a depth add.
Another Bogosian type add and would be really cheap. Pushes Liljegren to a 7th role which is great depth.
You wonder if the kids handle it well, then maybe Schenn is the main add. If the kids stumble a bit, then Dubas looks to do something more impactful.

Wouldn't mind him for depth.

What's the cost though? I'm not spending much to add Schenn.
 

As we should have. Schenn makes too much sense as a depth add.
Another Bogosian type add and would be really cheap. Pushes Liljegren to a 7th role which is great depth.
You wonder if the kids handle it well, then maybe Schenn is the main add. If the kids stumble a bit, then Dubas looks to do something more impactful.


Luke Schenn hoisting the Stanley Cup for the leafs would no joke be the ULTIMATE trip.

I don't know why, but since he was picked in 2008, around time all this social media really started getting legs, I feel he's got some deeper connection to our fan bases pain lmao.
 
Don't think Braun or dehaan Crack our lineup.
I prefer them to Dermott, & they'd be a steady safety whenever one of Holl or Liljegren is off. I think they'd compliment the Leafs D better because of what they bring.

I think whoever gets chychrun will be paying a price where they need chychrun to be much better than sergachev is.

And maybe he is, maybe he isn't, I'm not sure. But the price will be high i think.
Highest bidder will win & there'll be a lot of bidders, makes sense for what he's worth especially with his contract.
 

As we should have. Schenn makes too much sense as a depth add.
Another Bogosian type add and would be really cheap. Pushes Liljegren to a 7th role which is great depth.
You wonder if the kids handle it well, then maybe Schenn is the main add. If the kids stumble a bit, then Dubas looks to do something more impactful.


Would be cheap I think.
Schenn would be a great 'safe' bet.
 
Leafs do lack an elite 'shutdown' defensive pair, although they did have excellent results from the Muzzin-Holl pair for a decent stretch while they were really rolling; they've been far from it since though.

I don't think they necessarily need a single 'elite' shutdown pair to go on a run though, or one that has 'shutdown' as it's primary focus. Rielly's defensive game has taken a jump since his contract extension & he was strong in the playoffs too. Chychrun is a solid all-round defenseman (with the tools to be elite) but obviously isn't your primary 'shutdown D' unless he's on a brutal team. Between say Rielly-Brodie & Muzzin-Chychrun though, I think they'd very effectively contain the oppositions top lines & close out games. Because of Rielly's improvement, Rielly-Brodie + Muzzin-Holl (with Chychrun reducing their workload some) could be good too if Muzzin & Holl can get closer to what they were.

Even Liljegren has shown a lot of potential & flashes of shutting down the opposition (especially his aggressive gap control to disrupt play & how efficient he is retrieving & breaking out), but he should stay sheltered this season; he's shakey at times & isn't the strongest around the crease or in battles.

We saw right now since muzzin is out, leafs d struggle. Rielly-brodie get a bigger defensive role and they look awful since. And we saw last couple of season when muzzin was injured on playoff how much his injury affected the team. So yes toronto need a real shutdown pair.
 
Schenn coming back would be a nice full circle thing .. guy had a nice rookie year but was misguided in his development path that prevented him from building off of it here. Glad he's put together a nice bottom pairing career around the league and has won a couple of cups.

I'm all for it.
 
Schenn doesn't excite me much but as a 6/7 not a big deal.
He's not going to replace Holl in the top 4 which is the real need.
 
You 100% want Braun over De Haan, just overall bad in Chicago and brutal shoulder history.

Da Haan makes me want to pull my hair out regularly when I watch Chicago.

I think most people would want Braun, he's big, has some physicality, shoots right and is good defensively
 

As we should have. Schenn makes too much sense as a depth add.
Another Bogosian type add and would be really cheap. Pushes Liljegren to a 7th role which is great depth.
You wonder if the kids handle it well, then maybe Schenn is the main add. If the kids stumble a bit, then Dubas looks to do something more impactful.


I wonder if the Leafs tried to sign him in the off-season... I feel like they should have but maybe Schenn felt like Vancouver was better for his career.
 
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If you're going to bury somebody in the DZ with Muzzin he makes a ton of sense

I liked the idea of putting Brodie with Muzzin to help with zone exits and transition so Muzzin is pinned in the Dzone a lot less and takes less of a physical toll on him.

Braun could do a decent Hainsey impression and handle secondary competition just fine.

Either Holl moves to the 3rd pairing or out entirely to accommodate salary.
 
We saw right now since muzzin is out, leafs d struggle. Rielly-brodie get a bigger defensive role and they look awful since. And we saw last couple of season when muzzin was injured on playoff how much his injury affected the team. So yes toronto need a real shutdown pair.
They could certainly use a 2nd Muzzin, part of what makes him so important to the team. Last year I actually thought he was more valuable to the team than Rielly even though Rielly was the better player. But how much better defensively is Muzzin than Chychrun? One also has a lot of potential while the other is heading towards the latter part of his career.

I agree they took a hit but I don't think they overly struggled; losing a D like Muzzin you have to expect that, it's unfortunate. As a group the Leafs choked & by far the biggest factor was their top line getting beat, that was their downfall IMO.
 
I liked the idea of putting Brodie with Muzzin to help with zone exits and transition so Muzzin is pinned in the Dzone a lot less and takes less of a physical toll on him.

Braun could do a decent Hainsey impression and handle secondary competition just fine.

Either Holl moves to the 3rd pairing or out entirely to accommodate salary.

I'd keep Brodie with Rielly, he seems to be able to get the best out of him without the catastrophic defensive lapses

Let the forwards get it out, short passes should do the trick

I'm not to worried about Holl either way, if he was playing like last year I'd like him well enough though
 
I'd keep Brodie with Rielly, he seems to be able to get the best out of him without the catastrophic defensive lapses

Let the forwards get it out, short passes should do the trick

I'm not to worried about Holl either way, if he was playing like last year I'd like him well enough though

The good thing about Dubas is he generally makes his moves well ahead of the deadline so we would have some run way to to determine the best mix of the defense. It very well may be Muzzin-Braun or it could be Muzzin-Brodie too.

It's not unfamiliar territory for Braun either, did a bang up job with San Jose for a long time with Vlasic in shutting down the opposition. I also love his durability over a guy like Manson.
 
They could certainly use a 2nd Muzzin, part of what makes him so important to the team. Last year I actually thought he was more valuable to the team than Rielly even though Rielly was the better player. But how much better defensively is Muzzin than Chychrun? One also has a lot of potential while the other is heading towards the latter part of his career.

I agree they took a hit but I don't think they overly struggled; losing a D like Muzzin you have to expect that, it's unfortunate. As a group the Leafs choked & by far the biggest factor was their top line getting beat, that was their downfall IMO.

Like i said i dont see chychrun like a good dman defensive side of the puck. For me chychrun is an offensive dman than arizona using like an all around player because they dont have anything else in their d like we did couple a year ago with rielly under Babcock.

Tell me you don't know who Justin Braun is without telling me you don't know who Justin Braun is.

Tell me what he should do than holl dont do? Apart from being smaller and less physical?? Its not because a d play somewhere else than toronto that make him a better player.
 
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