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I'm sure they will move him for the best return they can get. An extra playoff run will certainly increase his value.
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sure but how many would specifically want a top pairing LhD who has played his whole NHL career on the left to play right?
In the east
Tampa has no room
Teams like Pitt. Boston. NYR are much stronger on the right then left
teams like Carolina. Wash florida could use hun for sure but it’s not clear that they would specifically want an rd.
In the west.
vgk has no room.
Colorado doesn’t have picks
Minny is stacked rhd.
Blues want left
Kings want left
In order to make Chychrun work AND allow for Muzzin to come off of LTIR once eligible, we’d need the following roster players to move;
Alex Kerfoot
Justin Holl
Travis Dermott (or in theory Ilya Mikheyev)
If the reported asking price for Chychrun is a young player, a top prospect and a 1st round pick, I wonder if something like Niemela, Dermott, Holl, Miettinen, and our first round pick, to ARI would work. We give up an additional roster player and prospect as Dermott may not quite be the idea of a young roster player anymore, but given the Coyotes defense after removing Lybushkin and theoretically Chychrun, both Holl and Dermott would be well needed roster players.
then, I would try and use Seattles interest in Kerfoot (who they wanted to take before we got McCann to force their hand) I wonder if we can do a swap of Alex Kerfoot for Calle Jarnkrok.
Kerfoot is having the better year, but I think Jarnkrok would fit in so nicely here on that Tavares line. I don’t think Seattle is necessarily selling everyone they can and are still keeping an eye on being competitive next year, so this may interest them due to that
Alex Kerfoot
Justin Holl
Travis Dermott (or in theory Ilya Mikheyev)
If the reported asking price for Chychrun is a young player, a top prospect and a 1st round pick, I wonder if something like Niemela, Dermott, Holl, Miettinen, and our first round pick, to ARI would work. We give up an additional roster player and prospect as Dermott may not quite be the idea of a young roster player anymore, but given the Coyotes defense after removing Lybushkin and theoretically Chychrun, both Holl and Dermott would be well needed roster players.
then, I would try and use Seattles interest in Kerfoot (who they wanted to take before we got McCann to force their hand) I wonder if we can do a swap of Alex Kerfoot for Calle Jarnkrok.
Kerfoot is having the better year, but I think Jarnkrok would fit in so nicely here on that Tavares line. I don’t think Seattle is necessarily selling everyone they can and are still keeping an eye on being competitive next year, so this may interest them due to that
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It's relevant to the cost and certainly pushes it up.
If a team sees him as an asset they would love to have for the next few years they will have to act when the player is available. If they wait until they are playoff ready the Player likely isn't available.
Arizona wants futures. Why would a rebuilding team give up futures before the playoffs when they don’t even know where they will end up.
anything is possible. I’m not saying Toronto is the main team in it but
1.) playoff teams are most likely at this point because they can sell futures and get an extra playoff run
2.) of the playoff teams that have 1st and good prospects Toronto is the only team that I can see that would specifically have the desire to audition a top pair lhd on the right.
we tried with muzz and it didn’t work.
seems oddly specific and Toronto has the only combo I can see if playoff team that specifically needs a RHD and has already been through getting a LHD and not being able to convert to right
Theres some middling teams that could be interested like CBJ, WPG, DAL, ANA, VAN.
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Chychrun has only played at an exceptional level for 1 of his 6 NHL seasons. Every other year has been completely average.
He is a naturally leftie, outside of Arizona showcasing him on the right. They tried that with Muzzin and failed already.
If we're doing a big package, I want JT. He's lighting it up this year. Not someone who will have to improve their play here and be a project that way. JT will come in and put up PPG+ production. What can we expect from Chychrun? Who can tell?
He is a naturally leftie, outside of Arizona showcasing him on the right. They tried that with Muzzin and failed already.
If we're doing a big package, I want JT. He's lighting it up this year. Not someone who will have to improve their play here and be a project that way. JT will come in and put up PPG+ production. What can we expect from Chychrun? Who can tell?
Sure. I looked and some are possible. I don’t really see why if anaheim is planning to lose lindholm they wouldn’t put chychrun on the left
Columbus and Vancouver maybe……. Van has owl and Hughes. Probably would be the closest team that would be looking at if he could play the right. So I guess those are options.
chych to me is not my first choice. Personally i would try to get gio to sign for cheap next year or go big with lindholm if he were to sign.
it just seems like Arizona and Toronto have done a few trades. Toronto is win now and needs a cheap d who plays on right. Seems like that is the most logical fit but not the only one
What does that have to do with anything I said?
I said the move to RD was most likely a showcase. My point being that it doesn’t necessarily mean it’s only for a team that wants a RD, but even those likely more focused on getting a LD.
Im not sure what whether it’s been done in the past or not has any relevance
Mickey Marner
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this is possible. Sure. I don’t see why you wouldn’t play other D on the right. Generally you keep your best players in their known spot.
like If wingers went down we wouldn’t move Matthews out of the middle.
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Agree with your thinking about showcasing Chych.
I'd play Chych with Lyub on #2 pair and play Muzzin and Lily/Holl on the bottom pair but I think Leafs would rather play Muzzin and Chych on their 2nd pair.
I am personally not advocating for the chych route. I think we could get gio to sign here for cheaper next year. I personally think that we have enough offensive D. Unless sandin is going back the other way. but IF this were the plan….
option a. Healthy mis
rielly. Brodie
Muzz. Chych
Sandin. Lub
Holl. Lilly.
option B sandin goes for chych.
Reilly. Brodie
Chych. Lub
Muzz. Holl
Lilly.
sure. Lots of teams value lots of things. But I don’t see why you would risk a “showcase” unless you are in trade talks With a team that wants him to play a player there.
If we decide to move on from marner. Do we put him at C just because teams value Versatility?
When ottawa traded karlson did they put him
On the left just to show? What about mcdonagh?
can you provide any examples of a team switching a D side or player position as part of a showcase for no reason? It should be common if all teams want versatility
Dubas has specifically been burned by adding a LhD that won’t play right. It seems very specific.
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If the rumours are correct and Leafs are looking for a top 4 dman, not many better options than Chychrun. Gio would be a good backup plan if they can't get a top 4 dman with term.
yep this would be important. I’m not sure if all teams send scouts in Covid times. I’m not saying it’s the only option and not even the one I would want. We won’t have pp time for him rielly sandin. With niemela coming up. That said
1.) dubas and Arizona have made 2 trades so are obviously talking.
2.) dubas has said he doesn’t want to do top players for rentals
3.) The right side/playoff combo is pretty specific
4.) the leafs just so happen to have a homegrown potential star us Olympian they can part with in knies.
Lots of things add up. But who knows. What will happen
sure but I don’t see how we can keep 3 pp d men in chych. Rielly sandin.
I would guess it would have to be like sandin knies 1st? Not sure I would do that myself.
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