GDT: Trade and Free Agency Thread - 2021/22 PART IV

[LeafChief]

Seriously? How is that not fair value? You just wanted to get involved in the conversation to feel better about yourself? Only you thinks its not fair value. Most others think it is fair value and benefits both teams. Leafs need picks and Bouchard is a good up and coming blue chipper. Edmonton needs a goalie. Mrazek is a good goalie. Come on man.

Nobody thinks its fair value. Edmonton wouldn't consider moving Bouchard for Mrazek straight up. It's actually a very poor proposal. Carry on though.

 

[NMacrules]

The same team that is 20-4-2 in our last 26 games.

TWENTY, FOUR AND TWO.

Everyone shut the hell up

17-5-5 and 7 ppd. Including 3 against Calgary, St Louis and Pittsburg.
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[NMacrules]

Any GM worth being a GM, has their eyes both on the the now, and the future. The scouts jobs will be to look for both draft selections and pros whom we might want to sign, both in the the NHL, and in Europe. As has been demonstrated many times, we are a player in Euro Free Agents, and to ignore this is extremely short sighted.

What the heck are you talking about? That hasn't changed but I know one thing for sure, our prospect pool is pretty weak. We need picks that Dubas has thrown away on such players like Foligno.

 

[Kelly]

Seriously? How is that not fair value? You just wanted to get involved in the conversation to feel better about yourself? Only you thinks its not fair value. Most others think it is fair value and benefits both teams. Leafs need picks and Bouchard is a good up and coming blue chipper. Edmonton needs a goalie. Mrazek is a good goalie. Come on man.

It's brutal value.

Go throw that at some Edmonton fans, see what they say.

 

[TMLAM34]

If Dubas feels confident in signing Evander Kane then I’ll support it. There’s no denying the skill Kane has. However I doubt it happens.

I don’t see the Leafs making any blockbuster moves in season. The player I’d have my eye on would be Adrian Kempe.

To Toronto: Adrian Kempe
To Los Angeles: Travis Dermott, Nick Robertson

 

[NMacrules]

Theyre 17-0-1 when leading after 2, clearly blown leads have become a troubling trend with this team…

That is the record in a vacuum, but there was also 8 ppd games before that. In January we are 2-1 including a 3 goal blown lead. The stats are skewed because of the PPD's.

Those PPD's are Montreal (likely win), Carolina (likely a loss), Pittsburg (likely a loss), CBJ (likely an ot loss), St Louis (likely a loss), Seattle (likely a win), Vancouver (likely a loss. They have been on fire), Calgary (toss up, lets call it an OT win) so with the skewed numbers they are really only 4-5-1 in their last 10. Not including Calgary. Those game will have to be played, many likely during the olympic break and we will get a much more accurate record.

Everyone looking at our record with rose coloured glasses.

 

[NMacrules]

It's brutal value.

Go throw that at some Edmonton fans, see what they say.

I did and everyone thought they would do it in a heartbeat. You seem to overlook the desperation Edmonton has to acquire a good goalie.

 

[NMacrules]

I don't think Engvall is strong enough of a player to base the decision off of. The decision should be made based off of whether or not they think Kane can help the team.

Anderson, Steeves and even Ho-Sang could be used if everything went to shit and we somehow lost Engvall. The drop-off wouldn't really even be noticeable.

Ho-Sang is signed to an AHL, one way contract. He would have to be extended to include a 2 way contract and that would put Leafs over the cap and not cap compliant.

 

[LeafChief]

That is the record in a vacuum, but there was also 8 ppd games before that. In January we are 2-1 including a 3 goal blown lead. The stats are skewed because of the PPD's.

Those PPD's are Montreal (likely win), Carolina (likely a loss), Pittsburg (likely a loss), CBJ (likely an ot loss), St Louis (likely a loss), Seattle (likely a win), Vancouver (likely a loss. They have been on fire), Calgary (toss up, lets call it an OT win) so with the skewed numbers they are really only 4-5-1 in their last 10. Not including Calgary. Those game will have to be played, many likely during the olympic break and we will get a much more accurate record.

Everyone looking at our record with rose coloured glasses.

You literally just based your entire point off of projections you created of games that have not been played.

This place will never cease to absolutely shock me. This is incredible.

 

[LeafChief]

Ho-Sang is signed to an AHL, one way contract. He would have to be extended to include a 2 way contract and that would put Leafs over the cap and not cap compliant.

If you bothered to read the post, it would only happen if Engvall was shipped out. Nothing you said applies to this situation.

 

[stickty111]

You literally just based your entire point off of projections you created of games that have not been played.

This place will never cease to absolutely shock me. This is incredible.

It's hilarious. Imagine making up outcomes based on guess work.
I could easily say we could go 7-2 during that stretch.

 

[NMacrules]

We should definitely discount what they've done in the previous 25 games because they blew a lead after playing 3 games in a month.

For sure. Yes. Great post.

Another person who just doesnt get it.

Leafs had 8 postponed games.

Go ahead and use your head. Who you got for losses and wins with those PPD games? Here is the last 8 PPD games. Those game will have to be played.

Pick the winners and then re-adjust the record.

Montreal
Carolina
Pittsburg
CBJ
St Louis
Seattle
Vancouver
Calgary.

Of those 8, Leafs are likely 4-4. Go ahead and pick.

This ins't about the last 25 games. Leafs only played 33. Please re-adjust the record based on your picks for wins and losses in those 8 PPD.

 

[stickty111]

That is the record in a vacuum, but there was also 8 ppd games before that. In January we are 2-1 including a 3 goal blown lead. The stats are skewed because of the PPD's.

Those PPD's are Montreal (likely win), Carolina (likely a loss), Pittsburg (likely a loss), CBJ (likely an ot loss), St Louis (likely a loss), Seattle (likely a win), Vancouver (likely a loss. They have been on fire), Calgary (toss up, lets call it an OT win) so with the skewed numbers they are really only 4-5-1 in their last 10. Not including Calgary. Those game will have to be played, many likely during the olympic break and we will get a much more accurate record.

Everyone looking at our record with rose coloured glasses.

So you are going to guess our record based on estimating? Thats not how it works.

 

[LeafChief]

Another person who just doesnt get it.

Leafs had 8 postponed games.

Go ahead and use your head. Who you got for losses and wins with those PPD games? Here is the last 8 PPD games. Those game will have to be played.

Pick the winners and then re-adjust the record.

Montreal
Carolina
Pittsburg
CBJ
St Louis
Seattle
Vancouver
Calgary.

Of those 8, Leafs are likely 4-4. Go ahead and pick.

This ins't about the last 25 games. Leafs only played 33. Please re-adjust the record based on your picks for wins and losses in those 8 PPD.

I don't have a crystal ball. I wish that I did.

Considering you are such a genius and can forecast the result of a game before it's played, I would suggest you look into legal gambling. You would be a millionaire.

 

[stickty111]

Another person who just doesnt get it.

Leafs had 8 postponed games.

Go ahead and use your head. Who you got for losses and wins with those PPD games? Here is the last 8 PPD games. Those game will have to be played.

Pick the winners and then re-adjust the record.

Montreal
Carolina
Pittsburg
CBJ
St Louis
Seattle
Vancouver
Calgary.

Of those 8, Leafs are likely 4-4. Go ahead and pick.

This ins't about the last 25 games. Leafs only played 33. Please re-adjust the record based on your picks for wins and losses in those 8 PPD.

Yeah you should probably not make guesses based on paper. Why do teams bother playing the games then if they can just project their wins and losses?

 

[stickty111]

I don't have a crystal ball. I wish that I did.

Considering you are such a genius and can forecast the result of a game before it's played, I would suggest you look into legal gambling. You would be a millionaire.

During this 25 game stretch, I counted about 7 games where the projections said we would lose.

 

[ACC1224]

Another person who just doesnt get it.

Leafs had 8 postponed games.

Go ahead and use your head. Who you got for losses and wins with those PPD games? Here is the last 8 PPD games. Those game will have to be played.

Pick the winners and then re-adjust the record.

Montreal
Carolina
Pittsburg
CBJ
St Louis
Seattle
Vancouver
Calgary.

Of those 8, Leafs are likely 4-4. Go ahead and pick.

This ins't about the last 25 games. Leafs only played 33. Please re-adjust the record based on your picks for wins and losses in those 8 PPD.

Based on their season so far they would win 6 of 8.
Your feelings have no basis. Sure they could go 4-4 just as likely as they could go 8-0.

Why not just stick to games played?

 

[Legion34]

Another person who just doesnt get it.

Leafs had 8 postponed games.

Go ahead and use your head. Who you got for losses and wins with those PPD games? Here is the last 8 PPD games. Those game will have to be played.

Pick the winners and then re-adjust the record.

Montreal
Carolina
Pittsburg
CBJ
St Louis
Seattle
Vancouver
Calgary.

Of those 8, Leafs are likely 4-4. Go ahead and pick.

This ins't about the last 25 games. Leafs only played 33. Please re-adjust the record based on your picks for wins and losses in those 8 PPD.

1.) who just guesses at games? Have the leafs taught you nothing? This team routinely wins games against tough teams then loses
To ottawa. Back up goalies and zamboni drivers.

2.) of those teams? Who do you expect to beat Toronto ? Toronto is a top team on that list. 5 of those teams are bad. The idea that Toronto goes
0-3 against pit is unlikely?

4 and 4 is possible but not the most likely bet. They might go 6-2 or 7-1

 

[NMacrules]

It's hilarious. Imagine making up outcomes based on guess work.
I could easily say we could go 7-2 during that stretch.

How is it hilarious? Those games have to be played. They didn't just disappear into thin air. They could have gone 0-8 also. You think they win all 8? Come on.

Wow, only in Leaf land do people forget that 8PPD games have to be played and now these game will be harder to win because those games will make the team more tired and there will be back to backs. What if the schedule has us play St Louis first and the second game of a back to back against Calgary. Or what about Pittsburg and then Seattle or Montreal on the second game? Or worse, 4 games in 5 nights if those games are just randomly added into the rest of the schedule?

Come on man. look at the logistics. Leafs will lucky to go 500 the rest of the season.

21 games played were against teams out of the playoffs. Of the teams in the playoffs, the team went 3-6-3

So if anyone thinks this team is good enough, you will be shocked with the record in the last 49 games, which the majority are teams in the playoffs currently.

3-6-3 record against teams in the playoff race right now. Think about that.

 

[NMacrules]

Based on their season so far they would win 6 of 8.
Your feelings have no basis. Sure they could go 4-4 just as likely as they could go 8-0.

Why not just stick to games played?

Games played against teams in the playoff race currently, 3-6-3.

 

[NMacrules]

So you are going to guess our record based on estimating? Thats not how it works.

Ok, here's how it works. 3-6-3 against teams in the playoff race currently. Games will now start to get crammed together to fit the PPD in.

 

[Buds17]

I did and everyone thought they would do it in a heartbeat. You seem to overlook the desperation Edmonton has to acquire a good goalie.

The Leaf equivalent to this might essentially be trading Rielly for a goalie since Bouchard currently leads Edmonton's blueline in points and isn't far off from that in TOI/G either.

 

[NMacrules]

I don't have a crystal ball. I wish that I did.

Considering you are such a genius and can forecast the result of a game before it's played, I would suggest you look into legal gambling. You would be a millionaire.

Why so rude? Why be so condescending? 3-6-3 against teams in the current playoff hunt. Thats not guessing. That right there in the stats for everyone to see. You will see my "guesses" aren't so far off.

 

[NMacrules]

1.) who just guesses at games? Have the leafs taught you nothing? This team routinely wins games against tough teams then loses
To ottawa. Back up goalies and zamboni drivers.

2.) of those teams? Who do you expect to beat Toronto ? Toronto is a top team on that list. 5 of those teams are bad. The idea that Toronto goes
0-3 against pit is unlikely?

4 and 4 is possible but not the most likely bet. They might go 6-2 or 7-1

I know one thing, they went 3-6-3 against team currently in the playoff hunt. 3-6-3 bud

 

[LeafChief]

Why so rude? Why be so condescending? 3-6-3 against teams in the current playoff hunt. Thats not guessing. That right there in the stats for everyone to see. You will see my "guesses" aren't so far off.

That's rich coming from someone that was telling people to 'shut the hell up' 45 minutes ago.

17-5-5 and 7 ppd. Including 3 against Calgary, St Louis and Pittsburg.
Maybe you should shut the hell up.

Anyways, your posts aren't based in reality. I can forecast that the Leafs are going to go undefeated the rest of the season to support my argument that this Leafs team is the greatest team of all time. That doesn't make it true.