GDT: Trade and Free Agency Thread - 2021/22 PART IV

[Nylander88]

Friedman just posted a blog about 25 minutes ago and said there will be a lot of interest in Kane now that he's a UFA.

We do know the Leafs sent scouts to Barracuda games.

I forgot about the rumours of scouts at the Barracuda game.

 

[notbias]

Yes

I'm talking about this team, that swooned itself out of the playoffs, can't advance past the 1st round, has quit on one coach and almost got its coach or GM fired earlier this season

Woops I'm wrong, they are paragons of mental fortitude

You're making up that they almost got the coach/gm fired, there was a portion of the fanbase that was wishing for it, but not much else would indicate that was the case.

I think the team has some mental issues, but you are making stuff up to make it seem worse than it is.

 

[jaric1862]

Klingberg would be Tyson Barrie 2.0. Please no.

 

[93LEAFS]

Man I'd love to have the skills of Kane as a hockey player added to the fold for cheap, but his skills as a human being leave way to much to be desired that I don't think it's worth the risk with our team playing so well.

Also I'd imagine he'd most likely sign with an American team like Florida or Dallas with thier lax covid restrictions. Can't see him signing with a Canadian team considering he'd most likely be a dumb ass and break federal or provincial laws within the first month.

I'd give it 3 weeks before he showed up on someone Instagram stories at a house party.

 

[Voodoo Child]

That 2nd condition is ridiculous

I wouldn’t be opposed to the 2024 or 25 1st, Dallas can have a first, but absolutely not this year’s 1st, and any 1st will need either an additional asset, or they can take Holl with Ritchie.

The Leafs have just three picks this year after picking just three times last year, the Leafs have wasted a ton of draft capital on things that didn’t work out, bad because were coming into the prime years for the original three and need cheap, ready guys with upside to play beside them on entry deals.

It’s also important to win the arms race - the last thing we need is Tampa, Florida or Carolina getting him, but there are limits.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

I wouldn’t be opposed to the 2024 or 25 1st, Dallas can have a first, but absolutely not this year’s 1st, and any 1st will need either an additional asset, or they can take Holl with Ritchie.

The Leafs have just three picks this year after picking just three times last year, the Leafs have wasted a ton of draft capital on things that didn’t work out, bad because were coming into the prime years for the original three and need cheap, ready guys with upside to play beside them on entry deals.

It’s also important to win the arms race - the last thing we need is Tampa, Florida or Carolina getting him, but there are limits.

You see the last line in your post? read it again because you are right.

That last line in your post is why you have to be open to the 2022 or 2023 1st

 

[Voodoo Child]

You see the last line in your post? read it again because you are right.

That last line in your post is why you have to be open to the 2022 or 2023 1st

I’m in agreement, but not just straight up. Winning the arms race is pivotal, but not for this years first, not when if he goes to Tampa/Florida/Carolina they’re not going to be able to keep him either.

If Dallas wanted to add (or take both Holl and Ritchie), I’d be willing to throw the 2023 1st, but not for a guy who can and probably will walk.

The 2022 pick is available, but not for a guy who doesn’t have youth, upside, and control at a good rate for a few years.

 

[Warden of the North]

I want zero part of Kane, and I'll be very disappointed if we bring him in.

 

[showtime8]

Klingberg would be Tyson Barrie 2.0. Please no.

I think Klingberg is better defensively than Barrie is. Not much, but a bit.

 

[francis246]

I want zero part of Kane, and I'll be very disappointed if we bring him in.

I’d be shocked if we signed him
don’t think our locker room would be the best fit for him. But he’s going to get signed somewhere.

 

[Ray Martyniuk]

If I was any NHL team I'd wait until everything is resolved...Kane's head isn't screwed on right at this time...so no

 

[Torontonian]

I'd prefer the Leafs stand pat, and any additions be from the Marlies, college, or overseas players.

Doesn't seem like a year to blow the load.

That may change between now and the deadline, and then you might want to add a top 4 defender.

Being 7h in the NHL is not the year to blow the load? (3rd in the league in Points%). This Leaf team is a elite team, people don't want to believe because of past playoffs rounds but this is a good hockey club. They are a superstar away from being able to put it together in the playoffs away from being a force.

Toronto should absolutely be trying to bolster their lineup in anyway that helps them. I am on the boat of going for the big fish instead of adding a forward or d-man that doesn't push them over the edge.

Replacing Holl in the top 4 or a player that slides bunting down to the 3rd/4th line should be their top priorities at the TDL.

 

[Legion34]

1.) I would absolutely take Kane if we could put him on the Marlies. (He cleared waivers. So I’m not sure)

2.) i still think gio is the most likely. Apparently he is playing Right side

 

[nobody]

If we can turn Justin Holl into John Klingberg even for the rest of this season, that's a huge W you take and run with. Klingberg provides us with much-needed PP help at the top and playing alongside Muzz, he won't be a huge defensive liability either.

At the end of the season, you let Klingberg walk and that frees up $2-4 mil in cap space that will be much needed. I would also try to add Ritchie in the package to even out the cap numbers.

 

[ULF_55]

Being 7h in the NHL is not the year to blow the load? (3rd in the league in Points%). This Leaf team is a elite team, people don't want to believe because of past playoffs rounds but this is a good hockey club. They are a superstar away from being able to put it together in the playoffs away from being a force.

Toronto should absolutely be trying to bolster their lineup in anyway that helps them. I am on the boat of going for the big fish instead of adding a forward or d-man that doesn't push them over the edge.

Replacing Holl in the top 4 or a player that slides bunting down to the 3rd/4th line should be their top priorities at the TDL.

They are less than halfway through the season.

Have about another 50 games to play.

If they're playing .700 near the end of February, that is meaningful.

Going for a substantial improvement is going to cost a tonne, and probably cost a couple 1st. round picks.

 

[MapleLeafs94]

I do think Klingberg would be a decent fit with what we have right now so I wouldn't be opposed to it. Hate giving up premium assets for a rental but if by the deadline we're first in the division, I think the boys have earned a decent roster upgrade even with our playoff woes.

Obviously banishing Holl on a one way trip to the center of the solar system and replacing him with Klingberg would be beneficial. Muzzin does seem like partner that would compliment him perfectly, maybe even Sandin and him get the Swedish connection going if that doesn't work. Tons of Swedes here to make him comfortable as well which can't be anything but a good thing.

Only problem I see is you'd ideally want him on the first PP unit which is kinda set in stone by Keefe. I don't watch Dallas all that often but I do think he'd be a better QB than Rielly mainly because his shot is a bigger threat, but without proper time to build chemistry it seems risky. If you're just gonna use him for sparse 2nd PP time and his 5vs5 abilities than paying valuable assets for him would probably be better allocated elsewhere.

 

[Kiwi]

You're making up that they almost got the coach/gm fired, there was a portion of the fanbase that was wishing for it, but not much else would indicate that was the case.

I think the team has some mental issues, but you are making stuff up to make it seem worse than it is.

Didn't quit on the last coach?
Haven't had multiple meltdowns in the playoffs?
Didn't start like absolute crap this season?
Can't win a round, even against the God awful Habs?

I don't need to make it worse than it is that speaks for itself

 

[Torontonian]

They are less than halfway through the season.

Have about another 50 games to play.

If they're playing .700 near the end of February, that is meaningful.

Going for a substantial improvement is going to cost a tonne, and probably cost a couple 1st. round picks.

So I guess right now, Carolina, Florida, Tampa and Colorado aren't consider a good team either. It's okay to say Toronto is good.

When has a TDL acquisition cost two first round picks? Unless they are an elite asset like a Jack Eichel type player.

 

[BertCorbeau]

Panel just said at the intermission that Klingberg is looking for an 8 year deal around $63 million - so $7.8 AAV.

If Dubas thinks he can make that cap work, that could be a great move to bring him in and re-sign him long term.

And the asking price for Chychrun is a young roster player, a top prospect, and a 1st.

 

[Seath The Scaleless]

Panel just said at the intermission that Klingberg is looking for an 8 year deal around $63 million - so $7.8 AAV.

If Dubas thinks he can make that cap work, that could be a great move to bring him in and re-sign him long term.

And the asking price for Chychrun is a young roster player, a top prospect, and a 1st.

I'd rather give our internal options a shot than to be stuck with Klingberg. Huge risk for a struggling player and who knows if he'll ever bounce back to his old self

 

[jaric1862]

Cost of Chychrun is a good young player+ top prospect+ 1st

 

[MapleLeafs94]

Panel just said at the intermission that Klingberg is looking for an 8 year deal around $63 million - so $7.8 AAV.

If Dubas thinks he can make that cap work, that could be a great move to bring him in and re-sign him long term.

And the asking price for Chychrun is a young roster player, a top prospect, and a 1st.

Yeah, no chance we can make the money work with that. First priority for Dubas should be sending Marzek anywhere and giving that money to Campbell in the off-season.

Say we trade for Klingberg at the deadline and have a good run in the playoffs, is a great fit and hopefully the fellow vikings on the team convince him to accompany them on the journey for Valhalla (discount) only then do I even consider a long term contract with him, and that's only if Campbell elects to go elsewhere. Unless Campbell implodes as the season grinds on which is certainly possible cap space should be utilized in locking him up.

 

[dubplatepressure]

No bloody way I’m touching 8x8 for Klingberg. No thanks to Kane. No way for Chychrun unless we can stomach something like Crouse + Chychrun for Anderson, Liljegren, and a 2024 1st.

 

[tokyoite]

klingberg will be available.
dallas GM isnt interested in re-signing him.

 

[Dragao6]

So I guess right now, Carolina, Florida, Tampa and Colorado aren't consider a good team either. It's okay to say Toronto is good.

When has a TDL acquisition cost two first round picks? Unless they are an elite asset like a Jack Eichel type player.

Toronto is good

But Colorado just showed they are abit better
That third period was impressive