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GDT: Trade and Free Agency Thread - 2021/22 PART II

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jaric1862 said:
he does need waivers since he’s signed mid season.
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He does not need waivers to be called up. He would only need waivers if they decided to send him back down.

The only time he would need waivers to come up (being signed mid-season) would be if he was signing out of Europe. He's already in NA so he's clear of waivers to sign and come up.
 
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jaric1862 said:
he does need waivers since he’s signed mid season.
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heard that wasn’t true. Won’t need to clear coming up but I assume that changes if they send him back down? Can’t see him being part of the team permanently with Mikey coming soon. Hope they don’t lose him. I think the kid can play and help this team.
 
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jaric1862 said:
Leafs need an aggressive #4 defenceman. A guy like Manson would be perfect, too bad he makes too much and has no term.
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My first big move would be go all in on Jacob chychrun

would mean trading Muzzin for assets for this trade but that would be a huge home run for me for this season and beyond. Awesome contract also
A defence around Reilly, Brodie and chychrun is game, wouldn’t have to worry about our defence for some time.

He’s young so prob not available but if Arizona Really going for a full rebuild then this would be a home run by dubas, maybe include crouse in the deal! :(
 
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123offtheglass said:
Columbus could be potential trade partner for Holl if they thought Gavrikov - Holl would be an upgrade to their shutdown pair. They're pretty good for their picks & prospect pool; not at all a competitor or anything, but they're competitive for a wildcard spot as of right now.

Andrew Peeke (23) would be a great target who's playing that role right now, he's a decently physical right shot defensive defenseman who has almost 2 years left at 787.5k & is waiver exempt. We'll see him play tomorrow.
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Not a bad idea. Wouldn't mind doing this with Jeremy Lauzon in Seattle either
 
Looking towards next season, that Mrazek contract is looking like a real stinkerrrrrr. Made a semi-realistic team that is unfortunately 2m over and needs an extra defender and forward. Obvious subtraction is Ritchie or Kerfoot.

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I am Canadian said:
Looking towards next season, that Mrazek contract is looking like a real stinkerrrrrr. Made a semi-realistic team that is unfortunately 2m over and needs an extra defender and forward. Obvious subtraction is Ritchie or Kerfoot.

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Obvious move is Mrazek...and you'll likely need to include someone like Dermott as a sweetener.

Arizona, Buffalo and Chicago are currently not very good in net and could take Mrazek on.
 
Dragao6 said:
My first big move would be go all in on Jacob chychrun

would mean trading Muzzin for assets for this trade but that would be a huge home run for me for this season and beyond. Awesome contract also
A defence around Reilly, Brodie and chychrun is game, wouldn’t have to worry about our defence for some time.

He’s young so prob not available but if Arizona Really going for a full rebuild then this would be a home run by dubas, maybe include crouse in the deal! :(
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Muzzin has an NTC he’s not waiving to leave. You can take that to the bank
 
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No Dermott at morning skate. Rubins starting? No injury to Dermott known of. Do we have a trade to announce?
 
I am Canadian said:
In a world where Ulmark got paid 5M, you either pay Campbell what he is worth or he walks
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Ullmark was 2.5 years younger than Campbell will be when he signs his next UFA deal.

5.25 mill is 6.36% of the 82.5 mill cap. That would be breaking the market for a goalie like him, which caps out at 6.1% for Ullmark, Varlamov, and Lehner for guys who signed in that general age range (Campbell would be 6 months younger than Varlamov, but 1.5 years older than Lehner and 2.5 years older than Ullmark when they signed). Ullmark was a clear overpay too, because Boston was desperate when Rask semi-retired and it was between him and paying a 1st for Kuemper.

Lehner and Varlamov, meanwhile, both had multiple years of starting experience with high end results. Lehner was even coming off of a season where he took his team to the Conference Finals with a .918, and had a .930 season the year before that.

Campbell would have had 1 year + 1 Covid year of (great) starting experience, and so far, has only choked away a playoff series. Short of Campbell winning a Vezina or Conn Smythe, he is getting a lower percentage.

I anticipate he gets 4.75 mill on a 4 year deal right now (at best). He needs to maintain his current play and have a stellar playoffs to get more than that. 500k is not much, but that is 1/3 of your overage. The other 2/3's comes from picking between Ritchie, Kerfoot, and Kase (who may ask for more than 2 mill anyways) and giving Sandin his QO for one year rather than paying him more for 2 years. That should also give us enough money to get a cheap-ish #7.
 
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SeaOfBlue said:
Ullmark was 2.5 years younger than Campbell will be when he signs his next UFA deal.

5.25 mill is 6.36% of the 82.5 mill cap. That would be breaking the market for a goalie like him, which caps out at 6.1% for Ullmark, Varlamov, and Lehner for guys who signed in that general age range (Campbell would be 6 months younger than Varlamov, but 1.5 years older than Lehner and 2.5 years older than Ullmark when they signed). Ullmark was a clear overpay too, because Boston was desperate when Rask semi-retired and it was between him and paying a 1st for Kuemper.

Lehner and Varlamov, meanwhile, both had multiple years of starting experience with high end results. Lehner was even coming off of a season where he took his team to the Conference Finals with a .918, and had a .930 season the year before that.

Campbell would have had 1 year + 1 Covid year of (great) starting experience, and so far, has only choked away a playoff series. Short of Campbell winning a Vezina or Conn Smythe, he is getting a lower percentage.

I anticipate he gets 4.75 mill on a 4 year deal right now (at best). He needs to maintain his current play and have a stellar playoffs to get more than that. 500k is not much, but that is 1/3 of your overage. The other 2/3's comes from picking between Ritchie, Kerfoot, and Kase (who may ask for more than 2 mill anyways) and giving Sandin his QO for one year rather than paying him more for 2 years. That should also give us enough money to get a cheap-ish #7.
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I hope you're right but this seems a bit optimistic. You say Ullmark was a clear overpay but so what? UFA's routinely get overpaid, if Campbell is a UFA this summer with a stellar season under his belt then it seems logical to assume that he will be overpaid as well. At least I can't think of any reason why Ullmark would be overpaid and Campbell wouldn't. And in his case it's not just one good year out of nowhere, he's looks like a guy who's had a solid career and just hasn't had a chance to start until now mostly because he's been stuck behind Quick
 
uncleben said:
Steeves being called up puts a little cold water on the JHS rumour, I think, at least for now
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Maybe... unless it's just taking time to get a contract done. Personally I think he's underperformed expectations with the Marlies. I mean he's looked very good at times, but 13 points, in 15 games at age 25 isn't screaming a guy you need to have on your NHL roster... both Steeves and Seney have outproduced him, and are younger. I think a guy like JHS, you expect him to be dominating, and being a leader in scoring in the AHL. If not, you've got either a potential bottom six guy (which he's not), or a career AHLer. I hate to be harsh, but he's got to pick it up, to really be considered anything different.
 
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Gary Nylund said:
I hope you're right but this seems a bit optimistic. You say Ullmark was a clear overpay but so what? UFA's routinely get overpaid, if Campbell is a UFA this summer with a stellar season under his belt then it seems logical to assume that he will be overpaid as well. At least I can't think of any reason why Ullmark would be overpaid and Campbell wouldn't. And in his case it's not just one good year out of nowhere, he's looks like a guy who's had a solid career and just hasn't had a chance to start until now mostly because he's been stuck behind Quick
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I guess my point is that Ullmark is not a 6.1% player himself, so 6.1% was already an overpay for him. Therefore using the fact that Ullmark received 6.1% as a justification for paying Campbell 6.4% will just lead to an even more egregious overpay.

If Campbell continues his strong season, he is in that 6% range for 4 years. Before this season, he would have been in the Mrazek range at best (which is sub-5% on a 3 year deal). A 1+ point improvement with an extra year is more than enough to compensate him for one quality season.
 
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