Speculation: Trade and Free Agency Talk - 2022-23 Edition - Postseason Success can't be a Myth!

[NHL1674]

We also get cap space for when Spurgeon/Dumba will be out injured. Isn’t Merrill going to miss the start of the year?

Both him and Greenway.

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

Does anybody know what the performance bonuses for Rossi and Boldy are?

Boldy has $600k potentially, Rossi has $850k.

 

[AKL]

Or just not care if ~$200-$500k in bonuses get rolled into the next year.

Well we're already 15M under the cap, what's another 500k

 

[Spurgeon]

I don’t think the bonuses are really going to matter much. The team will accumulate cap space over the season which should hopefully be enough to offset any bonuses.

Still won’t understand having $3-3.5M of defensemen in the press box though if Kulikov sticks around

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

Well we're already 15M under the cap, what's another 500k

We might have a cushion depending on what happens with Dumba and/or Boldy's 2nd contract. Decent chance we're not up tight against it next summer.

 

[AKL]

We might have a cushion depending on what happens with Dumba and/or Boldy's 2nd contract. Decent chance we're not up tight against it next summer.

I just don't see how Dumba fits on this team after this season. As Guerin would say, we'd have to move like 3 guys to keep him, it just doesn't make sense.

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

I just don't see how Dumba fits on this team after this season. As Guerin would say, we'd have to move like 3 guys to keep him, it just doesn't make sense.

I think they'd use the same logic that we tried to use with Fiala: a 6-7 year contract still has 4-5 years of post-dead cap effect.

 

[Spurgeon]

I’m fully anticipating Dumba getting an extension this off-season (~$5.5-6M), going on a tear this season (20+ goals) and Guerin ends up looking like a genius.

 

[Digitalbooya]

I’m fully anticipating Dumba getting an extension this off-season (~$5.5-6M), going on a tear this season (20+ goals) and Guerin ends up looking like a genius.

I would be ay okay with that

 

[roon]

I’m fully anticipating Dumba getting an extension this off-season (~$5.5-6M), going on a tear this season (20+ goals) and Guerin ends up looking like a genius.

We are talking about Matt Dumba right? The guy hasnt done really anything offensively since he tore his Pec in that fight in Calgary.

He is great at turnover's and playing horribly when pressured though. Two traits the Wild seem to value.

 

[Spurgeon]

I would be ay okay with that

Definitely, this team desperately needs Dumba to get back to the level of player he was projecting to be. If we can get anywhere near that level of play from him, I think our top 3 defensemen will be able to carry this team over the next couple years.

I did check the team in CapFriendly and it is going to be a bit tight next season if Dumba sticks around.

Kap - Hartman - Zucc
Boldy - Rossi - X
GREEF
Dewar - X - X

Brodin - X
Middleton - Spurgeon
Goli - X
Merill

Fleury
Wallstedt

RFAs: Boldy, Jost, Duhaime, Addison

UFAs: Dumba, Gaudreau, Kulikov

$15.4M to fill those X’s and an extra skater.

 

[thestonedkoala]

I heard from someone who’s no longer with the organization that Guerin is an absolute d-bag as well. So, we still have a d-bag for a GM, but this one just trades away high-end talent. He doesn’t bring it in.

I guess he's a d-bag to certain people.

 

[ShortPeter6]

We are talking about Matt Dumba right? The guy hasnt done really anything offensively since he tore his Pec in that fight in Calgary.

He is great at turnover's and playing horribly when pressured though. Two traits the Wild seem to value.

I can see you feel the same I do about him. Trade him already!

 

[Spurgeon]

We are talking about Matt Dumba right? The guy hasnt done really anything offensively since he tore his Pec in that fight in Calgary.

He is great at turnover's and playing horribly when pressured though. Two traits the Wild seem to value.

We are talking about a Wild team that somehow finished with 113 points and abnormal offensive production from the likes of Hartman, Gaudreau, and Foligno.

If Guerin has decided to roll with Dumba, he’ll somehow have a career year and make us all look like idiots. The horseshoe up Guerin’s ass is powerful.

 

[ThatGuy22]

Does anybody know what the performance bonuses for Rossi and Boldy are?

Boldy has $600k potentially, Rossi has $850k.

There is a standard 7 bonuses for forwards for the first 850k of bonuses. Each one you hit is worth $212,500. Upto a Max of 850(ie you can hit 4, doesnt matter if u hit more you still only get 850k.
Schedul3 A bonuses are:

-20 goals

-35 assists

-60 points

-Top six in Time on Ice among forwards (in total and/or per game) on team (minimum 42 games)

-Top three in +/- among forwards on team (minimum 42 games)

-0.73 points per game (minimum 42 games)

-End-of Season All Rookie Team

-All Star Selection

-All Star MVP


Wont be an allstar, so dont need to worry about those. Doubt he'd be top 6 in TOI

End of season all rookie team seems plausible. +/- is to flukey to guess about.

And we'd all be thrilled if he hit the scoring ones.

 

[DeagleJenkins]

Speaking of bonuses, anyone stumbled upon Lucas Raymond’s bonus potential? It dwarfs boldys by a good margin

 

[ThatGuy22]

Speaking of bonuses, anyone stumbled upon Lucas Raymond’s bonus potential? It dwarfs boldys by a good margin

Any bonus above 850k is pretty meaningless unless you are McDavid/crosby/Matthews/Ovechkin quality.

Need to be top 10 in goals, assists or points, win one of the non ROY trophies, or make 1st or 2nd team all NHL.

Only the elite of the elite hit those on an ELC.

 

[Wabit]

Entry Level Performance Bonuses | Puckpedia

Entry Level Contracts are eligible for Performance Bonuses. There are two categories of Performance Bonuses:

"A" Level Bonuses

"A" Bonuses are worth $212,500 each, to a maximum of $850,000 (maximum 4 achieved). They are achieved by each of:

Forwards
-20 goals
-35 assists
-60 points
-Top six in Time on Ice among forwards (in total and/or per game) on team (minimum 42 games)
-Top three in +/- among forwards on team (minimum 42 games)
-0.73 points per game (minimum 42 games)
-End-of Season All Rookie Team
-All Star Selection
-All Star MVP

Defensemen
-10 goals
-25 assists
-40 points
-Top four in Time on Ice among Defensemen (in total and/or per game) on team (minimum 42 games)
-Top three in +/- among defensemen on team (minimum 42 games)
-0.49 points per game (minimum 42 games)
-Top two among defensemen on team in blocked shocks
-End-of Season All Rookie Team
-All Star Selection
-All Star MVP


"B" Level Bonuses

"B" Bonuses are worth a maximum of $2 Million, and the full amount of the bonus is awarded if any of the following is achieved:

-Forwards: Top Ten in NHL Forward Goals, Assists, points, or points per game (min 42 GP)
-Defensemen: Top Ten in NHL Defensemen Goals, Assists, points, ice time or points per game (min 42 GP) for Defensemen
-Win any of the following trophies: Hart, Selke, Richard, Conn Smythe, Norris
-1st or 2nd team All-Star

Contract structure

If an entry-level contract has performance bonuses, the first $850K are "A" bonuses, and the remainder (to a maximum of another $2M) are "B" Bonuses. For example:

-If a contract has $1.1M in bonuses, the first $850K are "A" bonuses, and the remaining $250K are "B"

-If a contract has $500K in bonuses, they are all "A" bonuses. The player would get $212,500 each for the first 2 items achieved, and then $75,000 if a 3rd item is achieved.

 

[GordieGallant]

Anyone scared of what could happen to Kaprizov this summer?

No

 

[GordieGallant]

I laughed at Guerin’s response to Bozo or whatever Talbot’s agents name is. Like eff you pal your guy is under contact so like blow it out your ass.

Going to developement camp Wednesday and possibly the 3 on 3 game on Thursday.

Anyone gonna be there?

 

[Wabit]

I don’t think the bonuses are really going to matter much. The team will accumulate cap space over the season which should hopefully be enough to offset any bonuses.

Still won’t understand having $3-3.5M of defensemen in the press box though if Kulikov sticks around

It'll be hard for the team to accumulate much cap space.
It's looking like a 1 man pressbox and only ~$500k of space to start the season. LTIR is temporary cap relief without penalty for going over the cap, not a reset of the cap. Every day of LTIR used is $0 towards cap accumulation.

They only have one waivers exempt player (Boldy) they can play the on paper callup/sent down cap game. They still need to meet the daily min roster size 20 (IIRC). This is also a shitty thing to do to a player, because it cuts their pay in roughly for the season.

Any cap accumulated will get eaten into when the team has 2 players out (but not LTIR) at the same time. Or they end up playing games with a short bench.

 

[Jesus comma Brodin]

Brodin was dropping F bombs!? This team is out of control. The locker room is worse than we thought.

See Avatar. (It was on live TV)
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[Digitalbooya]

See Avatar. (It was on live TV)
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LMAO

 

[Jesus comma Brodin]

LMAO

It’s funny every time.

 

[DANOZ28]

if talbot demands a trade , whats the return and who plays backup?