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/shrug. It's not like Dumba is worth a lot in trade after the last few seasons. A Playoff 2nd+3rd due to his high cap hit as a full season rental? That was what MN spent on D-Lo + MAF last TDL.
So keep him and give it the team the best chance in the Playoffs and he walks. Trade him and get a couple of picks that aren't very high, but make the team worse for the Playoffs. It's a 6 in one, half dozen in the other situation. Those that want to collect futures will say make the trade. Those that want the best Playoff team will say keep him and let him walk after the season.
I'd be in the keep him and let him walk boat. Others on here will disagree with that. Which is fine, but not something I'm willing to put the effort into debating.
Dickie Dunn
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According to the first chart I found on Google... 7 OV. Doesn't seem super realistic though.
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Edit: misread the first time.
Minnewildsota
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Should get you to the high teens, possibly to 10. if I read the chart correctly.
| Pick | Value |
| 1 | 100 |
| 2 | 69.9 |
| 3 | 59.4 |
| 4 | 53.4 |
| 5 | 49.2 |
| 6 | 45.9 |
| 7 | 43.1 |
| 8 | 40.6 |
| 9 | 38.5 |
| 10 | 36.5 |
| 12 | 32.9 |
| 14 | 29.8 |
| 16 | 27.1 |
| 18 | 24.6 |
| 20 | 22.4 |
| 23 | 19.5 |
| 26 | 17.0 |
| 30 | 14.2 |
| 35 | 11.3 |
| 40 | 9.0 |
| 45 | 7.2 |
| 50 | 5.8 |
| 55 | 4.7 |
| 60 | 3.8 |
| 70 | 2.5 |
| 80 | 1.6 |
| 90 | 1.1 |
| 105 | 0.64 |
| 120 | 0.40 |
| 135 | 0.27 |
| 150 | 0.19 |
| 165 | 0.15 |
| 180 | 0.13 |
| 195 | 0.11 |
| 210 | 0.10 |
Minnewildsota
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Yeah, I also took into account that it's not likely the trade will go in the favor of the team trading up. Essentially they'll lose a few spots. Could be wrong.
Dickie Dunn
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So another opportunity to lose even more value but if they think a stud is there at 10-13 or so, might be tough to pass. Sure seems like GMBG has created a lot more opportunity for second guessing than success in the whole situation.
I wouldn’t trade 19 and 24 in same deal, but would trade the later picks to move up a few spots from either.
These draft charts values vary so much team to team and draft class to draft class. I think they are nowhere near as set in stone as the NFL value charts.
Minnewildsota
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I don't disagree. Just used it as a general guideline of where we could expect to be able to trade up to.
In this draft, two swings at 19 and 24 are better than one swing at 10
This is probably true.
I'm just waiting to see if MN ends up drafting 2 more LHS d-men with their picks, because reasons.
DeagleJenkins
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With most mocks i dont think there are enough LHS Dmen to be BPA at our spots unless shit goes bonkers.
Bazeek
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So I guess the next big question with this team is what happens with Dumba, and there are probably two ways that could go:
1.) They work out an extension this summer, probably similar to the contract he's already on. If Addison and Faber both turn into full time NHLers in the next few years this would leave us overloaded at RD, but after 2023-24 Spurgeon's NMC shifts to a modified NTC, so moving him out becomes an option.
2.) They go into next season with Dumba on the roster but without a contract, with the option to move him at the trade deadline. I think this would probably be Plan B, but it's definitely on the table if Dumba wants more than they're willing to give him.
Technically they could try to trade him this summer, but he's unlikely to return more than he would at the deadline anyway. And Guerin doesn't seem like the type to worry about having him walk in UFA for nothing.
Either way, I'd think this question's largely answered by August.
1.) They work out an extension this summer, probably similar to the contract he's already on. If Addison and Faber both turn into full time NHLers in the next few years this would leave us overloaded at RD, but after 2023-24 Spurgeon's NMC shifts to a modified NTC, so moving him out becomes an option.
2.) They go into next season with Dumba on the roster but without a contract, with the option to move him at the trade deadline. I think this would probably be Plan B, but it's definitely on the table if Dumba wants more than they're willing to give him.
Technically they could try to trade him this summer, but he's unlikely to return more than he would at the deadline anyway. And Guerin doesn't seem like the type to worry about having him walk in UFA for nothing.
Either way, I'd think this question's largely answered by August.
Bazeek
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He's already committed to the Gophers for next year. Unless you mean 2023-24?
Spurgeon
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If Dumba is not re-signed, the Fiala situation becomes even more botched. He 100% needs to be re-signed and I’m fairly confident he will be (home purchase this year).
MuckOG
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I think its very possible that Fiala forced Guerin's hand by telling him that he wanted out.
Bazeek
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Definitely wouldn't surprise me to see him sign after the Gophers are done next year, which could mean some NHL games.
MuckOG
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That might be, but it feels like Fiala wanted out the minute Kaprizov got his extension and he got his 1 year qualifying offer.
To me it was when Fiala held out when Guerin first got here made me think that thisll end badly
JiricekSaveUs
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Russo alluded to this on his new podcast as well, but it sounds like Fiala was only willing to talk to LA. Atleast initially.
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