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Wabit said:
For the fans on here it's Gus.

For the coach/GM it's a tandem.

If the Playoffs started today, MAF would (probably) be the in net.
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I think even Evason/Guerin know Gus is starting in the playoffs.

They'll just immediately switch to MAF if Gus has even a single poor performance and never look back.
 
HotTubHordichuk said:
They've given Gustavsson six of the last nine starts. Two of Fleury's three starts were against the worst team in the league. It's pretty clear Gus is the starter at this point.
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Agreed. It seems pretty clear to me that Gus is now the #1 and will get the majority of starts moving forward.
 
Wasted Talent said:
I think even Evason/Guerin know Gus is starting in the playoffs.

They'll just immediately switch to MAF if Gus has even a single poor performance and never look back.
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If Gus has one bad outing towards the end of the year, and MAF two decent ones in a row, it wouldn’t surprise me if they start with MAF.

TBF, MAF. Is playing better recently. I’m still bitter about last year’s playoff decision, and won’t let it go!
 
I wouldn’t be shocked if the Wild consider next year the last season that they are truly handicapped by the salary cap. Projections are that there should be as big a jump in the cap as there’s ever been for the 24-25 season, and I’d bet Zuccarello is going to be taking a significant paycut that year if he really wants to finish his career off in MN. If they bank cap for the deadline again, they could add a player with term that year as they’ll have the space to take on the full cap hit the next season. Imagine this team, but they traded for Timo Meier.
 
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KaprizovSaveUs said:
I wouldn’t be shocked if the Wild consider next year the last season that they are truly handicapped by the salary cap. Projections are that there should be as big a jump in the cap as there’s ever been for the 24-25 season, and I’d bet Zuccarello is going to be taking a significant paycut that year if he really wants to finish his career off in MN. If they bank cap for the deadline again, they could add a player with term that year as they’ll have the space to take on the full cap hit the next season. Imagine this team, but they traded for Timo Meier.
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Yep, this is what I was saying about a month or so ago. The “go for it” years start in 24-25 if we are able to accrue cap space throughout the year.
 
Digitalbooya said:
Yep, this is what I was saying about a month or so ago. The “go for it” years start in 24-25 if we are able to accrue cap space throughout the year.
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Did you discover this playing NHL as well? Cap goes up a little more than it will in reality in the game though.
 
KaprizovSaveUs said:
Did you discover this playing NHL as well? Cap goes up a little more than it will in reality in the game though.
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Nope, I was more on the lines of they will do everything needed (20 man rosters, players sent to Iowa, etc) to accrue as much cap as possible for that deadline. Plus, we should be replacing guys like Greenway, Foligno, Gaudreau, etc with cheaper prospects on ELCs by that time. I’m not going to count on the cap going up. If it happens, then it’s extra gravy.
 
I don't see why Zucc would take less money if he continues to out produce his contract as he has been. The guy had a late start to his career, and has never made big money compared to many other players of similar talent. Just him re-signing for the same money would be giving a hometown discount.
Now, another way to go about it would be to give him more term, but at a lesser amount. Something like 3 @ 4.75M, rather than than 1/2 @6M, with a full NMC. He's not an idiot - he knows the financial bind the team is in.

Keep in mind that he could get more from another team....again, if he continues to produce as he is, or even close to it.
 
We can hope for Toronto to choke a couple more times and maybe they decide to move on from AM. Aho might also be an option in the unlikely event he leaves the Canes. A lot can change, but the free agents when we do come out of the bad buyouts are pretty lackluster IMO, we would likely need to make a trade (which I prefer over UFA contracts anyway.)
 
Puljujarvi off the table, though I highly doubt Guerin was ever interested in him
 
Guerin isn’t going to do anything significant because we don’t have cap and the half of our team that should be for sale has little to no value and we’d be selling low. I’m good with this aside from the fact that even selling low would be the best move on guys like Foligno and Greenway etc. If there was any possible way to move Goli, Fluery, Middleton, Merril etc that would be the best path forward. Literally any picks we could get would be fine. Call up half of Iowa and see what the kids can do given the last 20 games.
 
In before 2nd for Domi and 4th for Drouin.

Kap-Hartman-Zucc
Drouin-Domi-Boldy
GREEF
Duhaime-Dewar-Gaudreau

Middleton-Spurgeon
Brodin-Dumba
Merrill-Addison

Gus
MAF
 
f7ben said:
Guerin isn’t going to do anything significant because we don’t have cap and the half of our team that should be for sale has little to no value and we’d be selling low. I’m good with this aside from the fact that even selling low would be the best move on guys like Foligno and Greenway etc. If there was any possible way to move Goli, Fluery, Middleton, Merril etc that would be the best path forward. Literally any picks we could get would be fine. Call up half of Iowa and see what the kids can do given the last 20 games.
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And who the hell plays in Iowa?
 
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This is what I get for preemptively complaining about JVR.

3. Kevin Hayes 🆕
Center, Philadelphia Flyers
Age: 30
Stats: 60 GP, 17 G, 31 A, 48 Pts
Contract: 3 more seasons, $7,142,857 AAV
Scoop: The market has heated up on the rangy, All-Star center in the last 24-48 hours with intelligence that the Flyers are willing to retain some salary on a transaction in order to facilitate a deal. How much? That depends on the return, and it’s a big ask for the Flyers to retain for the next three years. Carolina, Colorado and Minnesota are among the teams that have been in touch with the Flyers on Hayes. He has a 12-team ‘no-trade’ list and none of those aforementioned teams appear to be on it. Hayes has size, plays a diligent and responsible two-way game, and changed the playoff performer narrative in the 2020 bubble with the Flyers with 13 points in 16 games. Hayes is also only due $17 million in real cash over the final three years of his deal relative to the nearly $21.5 million in cumulative cap hit.
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Can someone throw Chuck's phone into the Delaware River?

Edit: After cursory stat-watching I'll bite that back a little because he has actually been pretty healthy this year. I still worry about the acquisition price if the Flyers are retaining enough for this to make sense, but I guess it's not crazy.
 
Bazeek said:
This is what I get for preemptively complaining about JVR.



Can someone throw Chuck's phone into the Delaware River?

Edit: After cursory stat-watching I'll bite that back a little because he has actually been pretty healthy this year. I still worry about the acquisition price if the Flyers are retaining enough for this to make sense, but I guess it's not crazy.
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I'm picturing something much like the PLD, Trochek, whoever else situations, where we're "interested" insofar as we're scoping out what could work. Like those situations, I don't think it'll progress to the point where we're actually the team getting him.

Guerin just asks about everyone. I mean legitimately almost every medium-ish name that's out there has at some point been linked to Minnesota.
 
AKL said:
I'm picturing something much like the PLD, Trochek, whoever else situations, where we're "interested" insofar as we're scoping out what could work. Like those situations, I don't think it'll progress to the point where we're actually the team getting him.

Guerin just asks about everyone. I mean legitimately almost every medium-ish name that's out there has at some point been linked to Minnesota.
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I very much agree, but still expect an acquisition before the deadline. JVR seems like the sweet spot between "not very expensive" and "marketable" with no complications beyond this year. Hayes less so, but having another center worth a damn is a medium term need, so 🤷‍♂️

Hard to rule it out.
 
Bazeek said:
This is what I get for preemptively complaining about JVR.



Can someone throw Chuck's phone into the Delaware River?

Edit: After cursory stat-watching I'll bite that back a little because he has actually been pretty healthy this year. I still worry about the acquisition price if the Flyers are retaining enough for this to make sense, but I guess it's not crazy.
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I am getting Hanzal vibes from Hayes. I’ll leave it at that.

I mean, if they can move Greenway and Goligoski( why would he waive for PHI?), they retain 35% on Hayes… still don’t like it. He’s heading into his 30’s and already has had a lot of injuries.

We would be buying high, even though he would be a natural fit at C for us with his career 46% FO ability.
 
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Bazeek said:
I very much agree, but still expect an acquisition before the deadline. JVR seems like the sweet spot between "not very expensive" and "marketable" with no complications beyond this year. Hayes less so, but having another center worth a damn is a medium term need, so 🤷‍♂️

Hard to rule it out.
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I feel comfortable ruling out Hayes, I just don't see how it makes any sense. JVR is our guy though.
 
I am not sure why the Wild are not interested in Domi, it is a position of need and only needed for a couple months. I get Guerin doesnt like him but based on production from him this season and desperate need for a center I dont see why they wouldnt just take a chance on him for a couple months
 
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