Speculation: Trade and Free Agency Talk - 2022-23 Edition - Postseason Success can't be a Myth!
- Thread starter TaLoN
- Start date
- Status
Granny has 2 more full seasons, I don't see retention as possible.
I also don't see anywhere in the lineup that Granny is a fit. Zucc and Boldy fit the same 10g/15a 5v5, playmaker, winger, mold as Granny. Rossi is type of player as that too.
Drouin as a rental from MTL would be a trade that is on par with Granny.
Last edited:
I’d be fine with Drouin. He should be cheap.
I’d have Granlund as the Gaudreau replacement.
Freddy G (sadly) is a better center overall than Granny, probably(?) cheaper, and he's better at the shootout.
Lafferty from CHI seems right up GMBG trade alley. North/South player, physical, PIT draft pick, cheap rental+1.
Edit* Here's my call on a GMBG being very active:
Lafferty + Kane retention for Addison.
Scheen for a 2nd from VAN
Benn being claimed off of waivers.
Steel used as a throw in for a trade or shipped off for a late round pick.
It looks like a lot but actually doesn't do much of anything.
Edit* Here's my call on a GMBG being very active:
Lafferty + Kane retention for Addison.
Scheen for a 2nd from VAN
Benn being claimed off of waivers.
Steel used as a throw in for a trade or shipped off for a late round pick.
It looks like a lot but actually doesn't do much of anything.
Last edited:
MuckOG
Registered User
- May 18, 2012
- 15,866
- 5,846
- Aug 9, 2011
- 3,271
- 2,221
Minnewildsota
He who laughs last thinks slowest
- Jun 7, 2010
- 8,884
- 3,092
I wouldn’t say 100% but I think it’s quite unlikely he’s traded
I have it at 95%.
-I don't think the market is there for him for a return that makes sense. He's basically turns into an own rental.
-Addison is in the doghouse.
-Brodin is out for at least a few games.
-MN is sitting in a Playoff spot, and only needs to be better than one of the other top-9 teams in the West to get into the Playoffs.
TwiztedHeat
Registered User
- Feb 6, 2010
- 4,786
- 324
I can also totally see him going all in and I hope he doesn’t f*** it up
Dr Jan Itor
Registered User
I was in love with Drouin back in the day coming out of junior. Sad he never lived up to the hype.
TwiztedHeat
Registered User
- Feb 6, 2010
- 4,786
- 324
The guys have played hard all year, not too many nights where you could question the effort level even if the execution hasn't been there. Adding some scoring punch to give us another winning line could have a snowball effect down the lineup like we saw last year. Might be one way to play with the cap limitation over the next few years. Make it to the deadline accruing cap and then add for a push, if you don't want to waste the primes of Kaprizov, JEE and multiple others, that is what you would have to do. The core of this team is pretty good, but we are missing a difference maker on both Offense and Defense, and maybe another depth defenseman too away from being a real solid contender when the guys are playing well.
Getting Chychrun is something that I would be on board with, we need offense from the D, and he comes in way underpaid perfectly through our cap troubles. I am not sold enough on any of our LHD prospects at this point to be in the NHL within the next two years so he wouldn't be blocking anyone either. It would also be hilarious that Guerin brokering the Orlov deal would have blocked CBJ from making a serious offer too.
Getting Chychrun is something that I would be on board with, we need offense from the D, and he comes in way underpaid perfectly through our cap troubles. I am not sold enough on any of our LHD prospects at this point to be in the NHL within the next two years so he wouldn't be blocking anyone either. It would also be hilarious that Guerin brokering the Orlov deal would have blocked CBJ from making a serious offer too.
MK9
Registered User
Going of TSN's trade bait board Feb 25th there isn't much of anything I see that aren't just more depth players.
-I can't say that any of the centers on the list are an upgrade to Hartman as the 1C.
-(Outside of Kane and Meier) Schmaltz is the only interesting winger that I think that can make an impact, and he $5.85m x 3 left on his contract. So making the cap work is a big concern. Boeser is the same thing, but I have no interest in him.
-Chychrun and EK are the only d-men I see that are an upgrade to the current top-4. The rest (there are a lot) are Middleton quality or worse.
-Greenway is the only Wild player on the list. Dumba was on previous ones, but has been removed.
-There are lots of guys that are injured, so not on the list.
The East has 6 teams within 3p of both WC spots, so it's hard for any of them to sell off players for futures. Hockey trades will probably be their route (this doesn't benefit MN much at all).
MN has 2 big holes and one small hole in their lineup. 1C, 2nd line scoring winger, and an upgrade to Middleton in the top-4. Without the 1C and scoring winger then any move is just moving the deck chairs around to me. There are some players I like, but I don't think they'd make much difference other than pushing Shaw or Addison/Goli out of the bottom of the lineup.
-I can't say that any of the centers on the list are an upgrade to Hartman as the 1C.
-(Outside of Kane and Meier) Schmaltz is the only interesting winger that I think that can make an impact, and he $5.85m x 3 left on his contract. So making the cap work is a big concern. Boeser is the same thing, but I have no interest in him.
-Chychrun and EK are the only d-men I see that are an upgrade to the current top-4. The rest (there are a lot) are Middleton quality or worse.
-Greenway is the only Wild player on the list. Dumba was on previous ones, but has been removed.
-There are lots of guys that are injured, so not on the list.
The East has 6 teams within 3p of both WC spots, so it's hard for any of them to sell off players for futures. Hockey trades will probably be their route (this doesn't benefit MN much at all).
MN has 2 big holes and one small hole in their lineup. 1C, 2nd line scoring winger, and an upgrade to Middleton in the top-4. Without the 1C and scoring winger then any move is just moving the deck chairs around to me. There are some players I like, but I don't think they'd make much difference other than pushing Shaw or Addison/Goli out of the bottom of the lineup.
Hypothetically, what are the thoughts on what it would take to get Chychrun?
Seen the asks, it’s significant. Assuming Addison, 2023 first, and 2024 first? Maybe that still isn’t enough?
I’m fine with the first two assets. Adding future (2024+) picks into the equation with where this roster goes with the buyouts is probably something that should be a dead stop. I do agree an add like him slots the defense more in line. I don’t think the defensive prospects outside of Lambos or Faber carry enough value to replace a potential 2024 pick. And if they are adding a non-forward, they need to retain as much of those prospects as possible so they get all of the kicks at the can of one turning out.
I have zero expectations for ROR in the NHL and am probably lower than most anyone on this board with him. I see him as a fringe, #5-7 defender in this league at best. Hunt is all potential in my view and not much substance but even in the best case, he’s maybe a #3-4. Wouldn’t be the first guy who can’t get past injuries in his career. Lambos is someone that strikes me who can’t put all aspects in his game together in Junior but has all the tools to back up his pedigree and does so as he progresses to the NHL. I’d avoid putting him in almost any trade. Peart also carries stronger value but in a trade that also includes Addison?
Seen the asks, it’s significant. Assuming Addison, 2023 first, and 2024 first? Maybe that still isn’t enough?
I’m fine with the first two assets. Adding future (2024+) picks into the equation with where this roster goes with the buyouts is probably something that should be a dead stop. I do agree an add like him slots the defense more in line. I don’t think the defensive prospects outside of Lambos or Faber carry enough value to replace a potential 2024 pick. And if they are adding a non-forward, they need to retain as much of those prospects as possible so they get all of the kicks at the can of one turning out.
I have zero expectations for ROR in the NHL and am probably lower than most anyone on this board with him. I see him as a fringe, #5-7 defender in this league at best. Hunt is all potential in my view and not much substance but even in the best case, he’s maybe a #3-4. Wouldn’t be the first guy who can’t get past injuries in his career. Lambos is someone that strikes me who can’t put all aspects in his game together in Junior but has all the tools to back up his pedigree and does so as he progresses to the NHL. I’d avoid putting him in almost any trade. Peart also carries stronger value but in a trade that also includes Addison?
MK9
Registered User
Can't say as I'm not great at gauging player value. But, I believe whatever it would cost to get him is well, well more than what the current iteration of this team should be willing to spend. Guess I could have seen the allure last season were he an option. People can use the theory of 'Well, who is there to fear in the West this year?' all they like. I just don't see this team as it is now doing anything other than the annual first round exit. Even with an add like Chychrun. He just isn't enough to get this team over the first round hump.
Would prefer they save whatever they'd overspend on Chychrun at a TDL deal and use that to acquire a competent center and scoring winger in the off season.
Minnewildsota
He who laughs last thinks slowest
- Jun 7, 2010
- 8,884
- 3,092
Praying for a buttload offer. Like Dumba sa person, and a player to a slightly lesser extent, but it would be damn nice to get a great return for him.
Edit: I don’t see anything happening until Chyckrun (spelling?) gets moved.
BuiumSaveUs
Danila Yurov Fan Club Executive Assistant
- May 2, 2018
- 19,175
- 12,078
Well that just clicked for me
If you can get Chycrun for Addison + Lambos + 2nd I would probably do it. He’d QB the popper play so Addison would almost have to go the other way. I’d offer up our first this year, but then we’d have to downgrade Lambos quite a bit.
I question what a "boatload" is in Guerin's eyes. It also feels like conflicting messages. Guerin said he's motivated to be a buyer less than a week ago, but he's going to sell Dumba if someone offers a boatload? If you're a buyer, then you shouldn't be selling pieces unless you're upgrading that spot.
- Status
