Does anyone think that Fletcher is desperate enough that Minnesota could make a steal of a trade with him?
Speculation: Trade and Free Agency Talk - 2022-23 Edition - Postseason Success can't be a Myth!
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Fiala for JVR(buy out) and #5? Maybe even get another pick from PHI? Sure.
PHI would need to get rid of salary to take on Fiala, so we'd have to take back something. JVR only has to be bought out of one year, so doing so wouldn't be a disaster.
Just not sure that the #5 in this draft is that much of a thing. Better than the #6, i guess.
JVR 's buyout would be 1,333,334M in 22-23, and the same in 2023-24. We can handle that.
James van Riemsdyk Buyout Results - CapFriendly - NHL Salary Caps
$4.33m and $1.33m. He's in the last year of a slightly front loaded $7m x 5 contract and has $1m signing bonus for next season.
The $1.33m x 2 is the amount of salary due each season (signing bonus isn't counted as salary), not the cap hit.
Spurgeon
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There is probably going to be extra cap space this season with a Fiala trade, so a JVR buyout may be manageable for a year. I’d want more than #5 if we’re sending back Fiala and taking on a buyout though. #5 + a high-end B prospect.
Not sure if anyone watches THG on YouTube, but it sounded like there’s a possibility that the cap increases at a higher rate than the projected $1M over the next several years. Think it’s all speculation based on how the league’s revenues were the highest in history this past season. Would be very frustrating to ship Fiala out and then the cap increases $3-4M next season.
Not sure if anyone watches THG on YouTube, but it sounded like there’s a possibility that the cap increases at a higher rate than the projected $1M over the next several years. Think it’s all speculation based on how the league’s revenues were the highest in history this past season. Would be very frustrating to ship Fiala out and then the cap increases $3-4M next season.
BagHead
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I tune into Shannon's channel every now and then; I like his relaxed vibe a lot more than the over the top, shouting analysts on actual broadcast programing. I hadn't seen that episode, though. Digitalbooya is right, that would be so Minnesota. So much so that I almost expect it now.
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how much does the players escrow cause issues with the revenue and cap going up? that seems to be a topic on players minds so if the league is making a good chunk of change would it take a few years before we see a bigger increase like that just due to players needing to pay the owners?
Can't imagine the cap going up before they are closer to repaying the escrow shortage. There's already a contract in place to determine the cap for the next few years, then how it's calculated going forward. Even putting aside the legal issue of voiding part of a contract if they don't get unanimous support from the owners, I doubt they are going to voluntarily give more money to players when they are still owed likely over a billion from the Covid seasons.
Spurgeon
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I think those projections were made with conservative revenue estimates. This tweet indicates those $1M projected increases for 4+ years are outdated:
Spurgeon
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That’s what the initial issue was, which lead to the $1M capped increases through 25-26. However the increased escrow paired with the strong financial year looks to be accelerating that timeline.
Just as a note. The color for "speculation" is not a good choice imo. In dark it blends into the thread title. In light it blends into the background.
At this point I’d take that. Still no clue what to expect regarding the return. Then draft one of Yurov, Nazar, Kulich, Kasper, Ostlund.
CBJ is one of those places where nobody wants to sign longterm. Everyone seems to run away as soon as they can. UFA's don't sign there. It might be a tough sell to get Fiala to agree to a long term deal there to get that high of a pick?
I could be wrong, but i would bet that fiala will be fine with just about any team that offers him 50M.
Ceulemans is not a sure thing, but he's a RHD with size and talent, who, potentially, could be ready in a couple of years. He and McGroarty/Kasper/Nazar/Ostlund would be a nice consolation prize for losing one of the best forwards we've ever had.
He is a year away from being a UFA where he'll be offered that same amount of money and get to pick where he plays.
Maybe he's fine with taking the money and running now? I dunno.
I'm just pointing out CBJ has a really hard time signing any players, let alone high quality players.
I've kind of been assuming that he'll want to sign now after what could be a career year for him. I haven't really been keeping up with the league-wide cap/financial stuff, though. If there's a good chance that we see the cap start to loosen next year maybe he leans toward betting on himself and pushing to free agency.
That'd be just wonderful.
If I was Fiala’s agent I would be telling him that money now is always better than potential money later. 50M is life changing money. Injuries, bad season…they are all in play next season. Why risk losing tens of millions?
I think history shows that this is how most players/agents play it, too. The exceptions seem to be players that have a specific destination(s) in mind and will take the risk. There seems to be a lot less of that with European players.
Still, he's a confident guy and he'd sort of be holding the Sword of Damocles over Guerin on this. I don't consider myself a petty person, but even I'd relish that a little.
It's ok to be petty once in a while.
MK9
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I was once told by this weird, sketchy looking dirtbag 'Not to sweat the petty stuff and don't pet the sweaty stuff.' I mean, in essence, I guess it seems like relatively sound advice. However, it was still hard to take seriously past the smell of B.O., weed smoke and Milwaukee's Best he was emitting.
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