Speculation: Trade and Free Agency Talk - 2022-23 Edition - Postseason Success can't be a Myth!

[thestonedkoala]

Kind of surprised their isn’t more demand for Kane, I thought Fiala gang would be all over it since they are pretty much the same kind of player, but Kane actually has playoff success. He wouldn’t have the long term impact since we couldn’t sign him, but he also wouldn’t cost us Faber and a first. If this team missing Fiala is the problem as so many imply, then adding Kane sounds like an even better way to solve our offensive woes for this season.

Kane has a nmc and apparently wants to go back home to New York or the surrounding area

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

This would be a cap compliant roster for next season:

Kaprizov - Mittelstadt - Zuccarello
Boldy - Eriksson Ek - Boeser (5.65m)
Foligno - Rossi (ELC) - Hartman
Duhaime (900k) - dewar - shaw (900k)
Whoever (750k)

Brodin - Faber (ELC)
Middleton - Spurgeon
Merrill - Addison (1.5m)
Whoever (750k)

Gustavsson (2.9m)
Wallstedt (ELC)

~$131k to spare.

Just need to figure out Greenway, Goligoski and Fleury.

 

[Digitalbooya]

Kind of surprised their isn’t more demand for Kane, I thought Fiala gang would be all over it since they are pretty much the same kind of player, but Kane actually has playoff success. He wouldn’t have the long term impact since we couldn’t sign him, but he also wouldn’t cost us Faber and a first. If this team missing Fiala is the problem as so many imply, then adding Kane sounds like an even better way to solve our offensive woes for this season.

Kane sucks. I’m not joking. Anyone who pays a 1st+ for him will regret it. Fiala is twice the player he is currently.

 

[f7ben]

This would be a cap compliant roster for next season:

Kaprizov - Mittelstadt - Zuccarello
Boldy - Eriksson Ek - Boeser (5.65m)
Foligno - Rossi (ELC) - Hartman
Duhaime (900k) - dewar - shaw (900k)
Whoever (750k)

Brodin - Faber (ELC)
Middleton - Spurgeon
Merrill - Addison (1.5m)
Whoever (750k)

Gustavsson (2.9m)
Wallstedt (ELC)

~$131k to spare.

Just need to figure out Greenway, Goligoski and Fleury.

Fire Foligno and Hartman into the sun and replace them with Beckman and Walker and I’m happy

 

[57special]

Kind of surprised their isn’t more demand for Kane, I thought Fiala gang would be all over it since they are pretty much the same kind of player, but Kane actually has playoff success. He wouldn’t have the long term impact since we couldn’t sign him, but he also wouldn’t cost us Faber and a first. If this team missing Fiala is the problem as so many imply, then adding Kane sounds like an even better way to solve our offensive woes for this season.

Kane and Fiala’s situations are not analogous, at all. Kane has been, by far, the better player, but Fiala has WAY more hockey ahead of him than Kane. It made sense to sign a 25-26 yo to a 6-8 year deal. It makes none to sign Kane, especially considering that Kane will be 37 by the time we get out of our cap penalties.

Kane should get a mid/ late 1st, easily, as a rental, if not more.

 

[AKL]

Kind of surprised their isn’t more demand for Kane, I thought Fiala gang would be all over it since they are pretty much the same kind of player, but Kane actually has playoff success. He wouldn’t have the long term impact since we couldn’t sign him, but he also wouldn’t cost us Faber and a first. If this team missing Fiala is the problem as so many imply, then adding Kane sounds like an even better way to solve our offensive woes for this season.

I was a big fan of Fiala's age and the term a long term deal would have come with. Kane has neither of those, and I'm not one to pay a premium for rentals.

 

[Wabit]

I’m good with the route that doesn’t take an axe to the elite part of our prospect pool. If he won’t sign here as a free agent, why would he sign here after a trade?

Wallstedt isn't being touched. He's the only elite prospect I see from MN. Fiala + mid 1st for Larkin (re-signed), It's steep, but it's not far off of the Eichel (Eichel is better) trade. Also getting the 1C (and 2C with JEE) locked down for years is worth it to me and gives the team a much better core to build around.

More outside factors are in play when a player hits free agency. Say $9m/yr sounds good to a player when he can only talk to one team. Getting the 8th year could be a selling point too. Then he hits UFA and there is a small bidding war and bumps it up to $10.5/yr. Plus there is the whole feel wanted by trading for him, it matters to some players.

I don't touch a Larkin trade without the re-signing being a part of the trade.

 

[Wabit]

This would be a cap compliant roster for next season:

Kaprizov - Mittelstadt - Zuccarello
Boldy - Eriksson Ek - Boeser (5.65m)
Foligno - Rossi (ELC) - Hartman
Duhaime (900k) - dewar - shaw (900k)
Whoever (750k)

Brodin - Faber (ELC)
Middleton - Spurgeon
Merrill - Addison (1.5m)
Whoever (750k)

Gustavsson (2.9m)
Wallstedt (ELC)

~$131k to spare.

Just need to figure out Greenway, Goligoski and Fleury.

You'd almost have to throw Rossi to the wolves in the top-6, because I don't see any positives for him in the lineup with that bottom-6.

 

[Digitalbooya]

Wallstedt isn't being touched. He's the only elite prospect I see from MN.

Yurov is an elite prospect. If we are picking in the top 15 of this draft, that player will likely be elite as well. I think Rossi is too, but I already know you think he’s shit so oh well.

 

[Wabit]

Yurov is an elite prospect. If we are picking in the top 15 of this draft, that player will likely be elite as well. I think Rossi is too, but I already know you think he’s shit so oh well.

We have much different definitions of elite.

 

[Digitalbooya]

We have much different definitions of elite.

I put it as 1st line talent

 

[Minnewildsota]

Fire Foligno and Hartman into the sun and replace them with Beckman and Walker and I’m happy

Until you realize they're not ready for the NHL. Then you'd be back to bitching the Wild suck again.

 

[f7ben]

Until you realize they're not ready for the NHL. Then you'd be back to bitching the Wild suck again.

Except I’m fine with them having teething issues. I’m not fine with Hartman and Foligno looking like ECHL replacement quality vets

 

[Prior]

Detroit has D prospects but no one on the right side and no one that profiles like what Addison can add on the PP.

I’ve said it before in this thread, if Larkin could be moved and re-signed, a first and Addison is a good starting point. I don’t think the (likely) prospect on top of that would need to be all that elite to top other offers.

 

[57special]

Detroit has D prospects but no one on the right side and no one that profiles like what Addison can add on the PP.

I’ve said it before in this thread, if Larkin could be moved and re-signed, a first and Addison is a good starting point. I don’t think the (likely) prospect on top of that would need to be all that elite to top other offers.

Maybe add a Beckman…thanks about it. We’re talking about renting a very good C, but not a star. Larkin is not that much better than Fiala, who got two mid/late firsts, essentially. Addison, at this point, should be worth a mid/late first. So, that’s two mid firsts +Beckman. Enough.

 

[keppel146]

I put it as 1st line talent

We have much different definitions of elite.

Yurov is an elite prospect. If we are picking in the top 15 of this draft, that player will likely be elite as well. I think Rossi is too, but I already know you think he’s shit so oh well.

Let’s just all agree/ hope he can keep developing and get some playing time.

 

[NHL1674]

 

[Sota Popinski]

We pick up a 4th for retaining

 

[Wild11MN]

It feels like that should be worth more than a 4th rounder that's two years out. Better than wasting cap space I guess.

 

[NHL1674]

The best center we ever had....

 

[57special]

Way to weaponize that cap space. A 4th?

 

[ThatGuy22]

A 4th is not nearly enough for that caphit we are assuming. Not nearly based on past cap hit deals

 

[Wabit]

Way to weaponize that cap space. A 4th?

Eats up 1 of 3 salary retention spots too.

 

[AKL]

Way to weaponize that cap space. A 4th?

Let him cook

 

[ThatGuy22]

There are a number of great players on expiring contracts looking to be moved this deadline. Too many for most of the cap straped contenders. We just gave away a 3rd of our deadline capspace for a 4th.

f***ing embarrassing