Speculation: Trade and Free Agency Talk - 2022-23 Edition - Postseason Success can't be a Myth!

[AKL]

Friedman reporting the wild may be interested in JVR. Good Lord, a CENTER Billy.

At least he's an expiring contract.

That said, knock it off, Bill.

I actually don't mind JVR as a target, contract expires at the end of the season and Boldy needs someone to play with. Should be somewhat cheap too.

Still prefer not to trade anything for rentals, but if he's going to, there are probably worse targets.

 

[AKL]

Actually thinking about it, if he traded Greenway for JVR, that could work on a couple different levels. Clears cap space next season, upgrades the offense this season, plus Fletcher might still like Greenway. Could be something to that.

 

[Bazeek]

I actually don't mind JVR as a target, contract expires at the end of the season and Boldy needs someone to play with. Should be somewhat cheap too.

Still prefer not to trade anything for rentals, but if he's going to, there are probably worse targets.

I worry that JVR being a pure rental would make him relatively expensive in terms of draft picks and prospects.

If the main piece going back is Greenway, different story.

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

Actually thinking about it, if he traded Greenway for JVR, that could work on a couple different levels. Clears cap space next season, upgrades the offense this season, plus Fletcher might still like Greenway. Could be something to that.

I was thinking Dumba in my mind, but Greenway probably makes more sense.

 

[DeagleJenkins]

JVR for Greenway straight up works for me. Id happily do that trade.

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

If Chicago misses out on Bedard and lands on #2, I wonder if they'd consider a swap for Kaprizov. They're the only team in the top 5 currently that might be impatient enough. Columbus maybe too I guess.

 

[Obvious Fabertism]

If Chicago misses out on Bedard and lands on #2, I wonder if they'd consider a swap for Kaprizov. They're the only team in the top 5 currently that might be impatient enough. Columbus maybe too I guess.

The Chicago board is that way ^ You can ask them.

You would probably be happier there in the long run if you would rather trade Kaprizov in his prime, instead of watching him.

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

The Chicago board is that way ^ You can ask them.

You would probably be happier there in the long run if you would rather trade Kaprizov in his prime, instead of watching him.

Up?

Technically I can watch him anywhere he is, through the magic of television.

 

[Bdub]

So who are we selling before deadline?

 

[BuiumSaveUs]

If Chicago misses out on Bedard and lands on #2, I wonder if they'd consider a swap for Kaprizov. They're the only team in the top 5 currently that might be impatient enough. Columbus maybe too I guess.

If Kaprizov ever wears a hawks jersey I’ll stop watching hockey.

I like Fantilli, but if it’s not Bedard I don’t think I could stomach moving Kaprizov. I also don’t think Chicago is really in an impatient spot. Columbus might be just because I don’t see Jarmo having enough leash to mess around, but even then they probably don’t move a top 3 pick.

The Chicago board is that way ^ You can ask them.

You would probably be happier there in the long run if you would rather trade Kaprizov in his prime, instead of watching him.

I’m watching him. I enjoy it all the time. This team is still super bland though. A superstar is fun and all but if I spend 2/3 of the game contemplating stabbing pencils in my eyes it means they probably aren’t the only thing the franchise should be worried about.

 

[Parax]

Up?

Technically I can watch him anywhere he is, through the magic of television.

It would actually be so much easier to watch him in Chicago or Columbus thanks to no blackouts. Seems like a win-win.

But as unpopular as the opinion justifiably is, Kaprizov came to this team at the exact wrong time. Dead weight contracts for way past their prime players, the once stellar blue line deteriorating, a rookie coach who has never won a playoff series at any level, and only one player who even resembles a capable center. The team can't seriously try to compete until the last year of his deal, what are the odds the Wild win nothing and let him walk for nothing anyway? Rip off the bandage, accept jerseys will be thrown on the ice, and get max return over the summer. Hell, package his buddy Zuccarello and retain on both to get even more.

I do wonder if a team like Columbus would trade #2 or even #1 with more moving parts. They made big moves and expected to be good, they might want the immediate boost.

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

It would actually be so much easier to watch him in Chicago or Columbus thanks to no blackouts. Seems like a win-win.

But as unpopular as the opinion justifiably is, Kaprizov came to this team at the exact wrong time. Dead weight contracts for way past their prime players, the once stellar blue line deteriorating, a rookie coach who has never won a playoff series at any level, and only one player who even resembles a capable center. The team can't seriously try to compete until the last year of his deal, what are the odds the Wild win nothing and let him walk for nothing anyway? Rip off the bandage, accept jerseys will be thrown on the ice, and get max return over the summer. Hell, package his buddy Zuccarello and retain on both to get even more.

I do wonder if a team like Columbus would trade #2 or even #1 with more moving parts. They made big moves and expected to be good, they might want the immediate boost.

This is the thing. A ~15% salary cap handicap during his prime years, into a $100M+ over 8 year deal starting at age 29. It's not an ideal way to draw it up.

And this is also with a full NMC kicking in summer 2024, so in theory, he would/could have the full capability to walk as a UFA without allowing us to get a single asset for him, even if we wanted to.

 

[DANOZ28]

im not giving up hope that after 2 more cap h3ll seasons and terrific drafting we could be a top team. just say NO to trading kaprizov.

 

[roon]

Kaprizov alone doesn't sniff the #1 pick in this years draft. Doubtful he gets you #2....any team trading for him is looking at the exact same contract situation the Wild are....he will be looking for a long term and expensive deal that takes him into his late 30's.....

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

Kaprizov alone doesn't sniff the #1 pick in this years draft. Doubtful he gets you #2....any team trading for him is looking at the exact same contract situation the Wild are....he will be looking for a long term and expensive deal that takes him into his late 30's.....

Teams sign these deals all of the time. I'm just questioning if we should.

 

[roon]

Teams sign these deals all of the time. I'm just questioning if we should.

I understand that they sign them all the time....but it impacts his trade value significantly.

 

[ThatGuy22]

Tarasenko headed to NYR. Wouldn't have hated him as rental along side boldy, but gotta see the cost.

 

[thestonedkoala]

Tarasenko headed to NYR. Wouldn't have hated him as rental along side boldy, but gotta see the cost.

This is what St. Louis is sneaky good at is moving assets around.

Imagine if Koivu had waived his NTC to go to New York. Minnesota would have had another young player (maybe Greig's, maybe someone else), wouldn't have to deal with Parise's buyout. As much as people love Koivu, his selfishness screwed over the team.

 

[ThatGuy22]

This is what St. Louis is sneaky good at is moving assets around.

Imagine if Koivu had waived his NTC to go to New York. Minnesota would have had another young player (maybe Greig's, maybe someone else), wouldn't have to deal with Parise's buyout. As much as people love Koivu, his selfishness screwed over the team.

Please. Tarasenko isn't being selfless. He requested a trade like a year and a half ago.

 

[AKL]

Please. Tarasenko isn't being selfless. He requested a trade like a year and a half ago.

The lesson I'm learning here is to not wait until the last moment when your guys have trade protection to move them, especially if they make it known they don't wanna stay. If you told me a year ago that Tarasenko would go for essentially just a late 1st I would have said you're out to lunch.

Food for thought for us in the next year or two...

 

[thestonedkoala]

Please. Tarasenko isn't being selfless. He requested a trade like a year and a half ago.

He demanded a trade because St. Louis was moving on from him. Hell, they had him exposed for the expansion draft.

 

[Wasted Talent]

A year and a half back, but even so Tarasenko moving on is giving St. Louis a chance to reboot.

He's giving himself a chance to live in New York and make the playoffs. Nothing selfless about that.

 

[thestonedkoala]

He's giving himself a chance to live in New York and make the playoffs. Nothing selfless about that.

He has a cup?

St. Louis exposed him during the expansion draft. St. Louis was moving on from Tarasenko as much as Tarasenko was moving on from St. Louis.

Also he doesn't trust St. Louis or their doctors.

 

[ThatGuy22]

He demanded a trade because St. Louis was moving on from him. Hell, they had him exposed for the expansion draft.

He demanded a trade because he didn't like how they handled his shoulder injury, and it would have been a big risk for Seattle to claim that contract for a player coming off a serious injury.

 

[thestonedkoala]

He demanded a trade because he didn't like how they handled his shoulder injury, and it would have been a big risk for Seattle to claim that contract for a player coming off a serious injury.

St. Louis was moving on from him. It doesn't matter, Tarasenko and St. Louis were parting ways and St. Louis will be for the better as they get younger. They have done well maneuvering trades in the past.