Speculation: Trade and Free Agency Talk - 2022-23 Edition - Postseason Success can't be a Myth!

[Obvious Fabertism]

I have been vocal in the past that I would like Casey and see him as a fit both play style and in our cap structure, the price has increased for him though.

I will continue to add that Connor McMichael is another guy that could be a great buy low target, Washington has had issues utilizing him, but he would have better opportunities to use his finishing abilities playing with our playmakers IMO.

 

[DANOZ28]

next summer if tarasenko is a ufa im all in! trade dumba & greenway now for cap space. keep addison

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

next summer if tarasenko is a ufa im all in! trade dumba & greenway now for cap space. keep addison

I don't think Tarasenko is going to sign for $2 million per year.

 

[Wabit]

Here's my thinking for the TDL.

The best case MN is sitting 4p above the WC cutoff. They'll spend a 3rd and pickup a FWD.

They are likely sitting right on the Playoff fringe +/- 3p and they basically stand pat.

They are 8p+ out of the 2nd WC and sell. Ship out Hartman, Dumba, Freddy G, Steel, and Reaves. I'd also be listening on Foligno and Greenway. Take a cap dump or two for picks and to fill out the roster for the season.

 

[Bdub]

Who will be sold at the deadline?

 

[Minnewildsota]

Isn’t the deadline like 6 weeks away? lol

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

Isn’t the deadline like 6 weeks away? lol

Less than 5.

 

[Wabit]

Isn’t the deadline like 6 weeks away? lol

March 3rd.

15 games against until the TDL:
-7 Playoff teams
-4 sub .500 teams
-4 fringe teams
-10 home
-5 away

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

Depressing fact:

If we didn't have the buyout cap hits, with very little maneuvering, we could've been in a position to make legit offers to both Horvat and Larkin this summer. A single Greenway trade, and we could offer both of them up to $9M per year, if we wanted.

Larkin/Horvat/Eriksson Ek down the middle. Jeez.

 

[BuiumSaveUs]

Depressing fact:

If we didn't have the buyout cap hits, with very little maneuvering, we could've been in a position to make legit offers to both Horvat and Larkin this summer. A single Greenway trade, and we could offer both of them up to $9M per year, if we wanted.

Larkin/Horvat/Eriksson Ek down the middle. Jeez.

Yeah we really have had f***ed up timing for everything. If we don’t do those 2012 deals, we were primed to be as bad as we’d been in franchise history with tons of deep drafts coming up 2013-2016. On the Brightside, if we can retain Kaprizov, I’d argue we’ll be in an even better position coming out of the buyouts; we’ll have a younger and more talented core. Whether Guerin is finally able to sell a bunch of futures for good roster pieces or shell out boatloads of cash to the top FAs, I think we’ll be in the best position build a contender that we’ve ever been in. Whether I trust Guerin to take advantage of the position is another conversation. Additionally, this does rely on the idea that we can resign Kaprizov and that he doesn’t majorly regress on the subsequent contract though.

 

[lordtrillson]

Gotta say Mittlestadt looked pretty decent tonight

 

[Prior]

Well past due for the Sam Steel #1 Center Experience to be over.

Make a move or consider putting Hartman back there.

 

[57special]

Well past due for the Sam Steel #1 Center Experience to be over.

Make a move or consider putting Hartman back there.

Last year’s Hartman….sure. This year’s, I don’t even want on the team.

 

[Prior]

Last year’s Hartman….sure. This year’s, I don’t even want on the team.

Still better than whatever Sam Steel is doing out there.

 

[57special]

Still better than whatever Sam Steel is doing out there.

I don’t agree, but I am really starting to hate Hartman’s game. Steel is….inoffensive.

Let’s put it this way, I am watching Rossi with great interest. I also would like to see Walker play at C down in Iowa. He has plenty of experience there, and IMO, can make better use of his speed at the Center position.

 

[Prior]

I don’t agree, but I am really starting to hate Hartman’s game. Steel is….inoffensive.

Let’s put it this way, I am watching Rossi with great interest. I also would like to see Walker play at C down in Iowa. He has plenty of experience there, and IMO, can make better use of his speed at the Center position.

You need to have someone with Kaprizov and Zuccarello that provides something.

Steel is giving them nothing but ensuring they get hemmed in their own end by lines that have no business neutralizing Kaprizov.

 

[TaLoN]

You need to have someone with Kaprizov and Zuccarello that provides something.

Steel is giving them nothing but ensuring they get hemmed in their own end by lines that have no business neutralizing Kaprizov.

We don't have a center capable of that on this roster right now. (Ek is technically capable, but his game mixes with Kap's like oil and water)

 

[Wabit]

You need to have someone with Kaprizov and Zuccarello that provides something.

Steel is giving them nothing but ensuring they get hemmed in their own end by lines that have no business neutralizing Kaprizov.

None of the centers, except JEE, on the roster provide much of anything.

I'll take Steel there over the rest of the bad choices. Hartman and Freddy G both were worse than Steel centering Kap/Zucc this year. Dewar, Shaw, and Rossi are even worse options.

 

[Prior]

We don't have a center capable of that on this roster right now. (Ek is technically capable, but his game mixes with Kap's like oil and water)

Hartman is what is he is, he may be a fraction of what he was last season. But Steel is waiver wire fodder weighing down one of the best players in this league and another player who is one of the more productive on this team. It’s past time to do something about it.

At the very least, they need to see if they can rekindle that top line of last year before deciding on the type of rental center they should pursue. That is if they’ve decided Rossi is best developing and JEE is going to continue to play with third line players.

We’re 3 years into Kaprizov having to drag around questionable at best NHLers and that is an abject failure.

None of the centers, except JEE, on the roster provide much of anything.

I'll take Steel there over the rest of the bad choices. Hartman and Freddy G both were worse than Steel centering Kap/Zucc this year. Dewar, Shaw, and Rossi are even worse options.

Hartman scored more goals last year than Steel’s 5yr career to this point.

I’m anything but a Hartman fan but it’s the bare minimum bar to clear at this point.

 

[Wabit]

Hartman is what is he is, he may be a fraction of what he was last season. But Steel is waiver wire fodder weighing down one of the best players in this league and another player who is one of the more productive on this team. It’s past time to do something about it.

At the very least, they need to see if they can rekindle that top line of last year before deciding on the type of rental center they should pursue. That is if they’ve decided Rossi is best developing and JEE is going to continue to play with third line players.

We’re 3 years into Kaprizov having to drag around questionable at best NHLers and that is an abject failure.


Hartman scored more goals last year than Steel’s 5yr career to this point.

I’m anything but a Hartman fan but it’s the bare minimum bar to clear at this point.

Hartman, last year, was scoring goals before he was put on the top line last. He (and many others on the team) spiked a great season that's all. He's been nowhere near replicating it this year. He's a career ~10% shooter, not a good passer, and not good at FOs.

 

[TaLoN]

Hartman is what is he is, he may be a fraction of what he was last season.

Hartman is barely an NHL player this season. Saying he's a fraction of what he was is being overly generous.

He's proving this season why his contract is so cheap and is not really deserving of more.

 

[Digitalbooya]

Hartman is barely an NHL player this season. Saying he's a fraction of what he was is being overly generous.

He's proving this season why his contract is so cheap and is not really deserving of more.

If 40-50 point pace is the new fringe NHLer status, we are screwed.

 

[TaLoN]

If 40-50 point pace is the new fringe NHLer status, we are screwed.

Sorry, I should have said "right now" because that's what I meant.
His poor play has had him falling down the lineup, and as he falls down the lineup, there are lesser and lesser players left to carry him, to the point where right now he's barely an NHL player.

 

[AKL]

I'd still swap Hartman back into that spot and see if he can find some of what he had last year. Steel does nothing for that line. Hartman at least has a track record of success there.

 

[Prior]

There’s no reality that says Hartman is a fringe NHLer without also accepting that Steel is not an NHL player.